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Tue, March 24, 2026
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Santa Rosa City Council — March 24, 2026
This was a lengthy regular meeting that ran well into the evening, covering a study session on a major planning effort, a contested land use appeal drawing hundreds of community members, a significant immigration enforcement ordinance, and routine budget and reporting items.
Study Session: South Santa Rosa Specific Plan — Land Use and Circulation Alternatives (Item 4.1)
Staff from the Planning and Economic Development Department presented three draft land use and circulation alternatives for the South Santa Rosa Specific Plan (SSRSP), covering roughly 1,900 acres along the Santa Rosa Avenue corridor — approximately 1,400 of which are in unincorporated Sonoma County, with 500 within city limits. The plan area is younger, lower-income, and more heavily Latino than the city as a whole, with significant overcrowding, rent burden, and infrastructure deficits, particularly in the Moreland neighborhood west of Highway 101.
The three alternatives differ primarily in where they concentrate higher-density residential development and mixed-use commercial nodes, and how they address east-west connectivity across Highway 101 to Moreland. All three would generate approximately 9,500–10,000 new residential units at full buildout.
Council discussion centered heavily on annexation of Moreland — a topic not formally part of this planning process but clearly top of mind for residents and councilmembers alike. Staff noted that a 2023 study found annexation financially infeasible given the cost of bringing infrastructure up to city standards and adding police and fire capacity, and that those numbers have likely worsened. The city currently receives only 14% of the 1% property tax levy and about $662,000 per year from the county (in its final year) for Roseland infrastructure investment.
Public comment was extensive and emotional. Moreland residents described dangerous conditions — no sidewalks, flooded drainage ditches, inaccessible bus stops, and no safe crossings. Community advocates raised concerns about gentrification, displacement of mobile home residents, and the risk that LAFCO data gaps could justify excluding Moreland from future annexation consideration. Advocates from Legal Aid of Sonoma County and Health Equity organizations urged the city to treat the anti-displacement strategy as integral to the plan, not an afterthought.
Council direction to staff was general rather than prescriptive: most members expressed preference for elements of Alternative 2 (City Centre Growth) but were open to a hybrid approach. Several members emphasized that density should not be added to Moreland without basic infrastructure first, that the county must be held accountable for its obligations, and that evacuation safety must be addressed. Council also asked staff to return with fiscal impact data — including city expenditures on Roseland infrastructure versus county contributions, and an updated estimate of annexation costs.
Vote: Study session only; no binding action taken.
Proclamations (Items 7.1 and 7.2)
The Council proclaimed March 2026 as Women's History Month, accepted by a representative of the Sonoma County Commission on the Status of Women. The Council also proclaimed American Red Cross Month, accepted by local Red Cross volunteers including the president of the Santa Rosa High School Red Cross Club.
Staff Briefing: "Let's Talk Santa Rosa" Community Engagement Tool (Item 8.1)
Staff announced the launch of a citywide survey called *Let's Talk Santa Rosa*, available starting the following evening at srcity.org/talk, offered in English and Spanish. The survey is intended to gather resident priorities to inform the upcoming 2026 city budget process. Top priorities already identified in a prior resident survey include emergency response services, street maintenance, police response times, and wildfire preparedness.
City Attorney Report: Litigation Settlement (Item 9.1)
The City Attorney reported that a long-running federal lawsuit — *Chief v. County of Sonoma et al.* — was resolved. The case, pending for eight years, involved the 2018 clearance of a homeless encampment within city limits. The city settled with the two remaining plaintiffs at no monetary cost, with plaintiffs releasing all claims and waiving attorneys' fees. In exchange, the city agreed to update administrative policies on handling removal of personal property belonging to unhoused individuals.
Public Hearing: Pura Vita Recovery Services Appeal (Item 16.1)
This was the evening's most contentious item. The Planning Commission approved a minor conditional use permit in November 2025 (4-2 vote) allowing Pura Vita Recovery Services to expand from a 6-bed to a 24-bed non-medical residential addiction treatment facility in the Skyhawk Village mixed-use commercial center at 5761 Mountain Hawk Drive, near Highway 12. Two separate appeals were filed — one by Skyhawk United (represented by Dr. David Chen) and one by property owner Kelsey Maynard (represented by attorney Aaron Carlstrom).
Appellants' arguments: The project fails to meet required findings for compatibility (Finding C) and physical suitability (Finding D); concentrates a regional institutional use in a neighborhood commercial center; lacks a wildfire evacuation analysis; has no designated on-site smoking area; and will displace affordable housing units. Appellants presented a petition of over 600 signatures from across the city.
Applicant's response: Owner Alex Ward stated the facility has operated for nearly three years without a single police call for service, no complaints to the city, and with support from neighboring businesses (including tenants who are also his own commercial tenants, though he disputed any coercive relationship). Staff confirmed 5 police calls since 2022, none associated with the facility. Fire Chief Paul Lowenthal clarified that the site, while within the current wildland urban interface, is recommended for removal from that designation in a city-wide WUI boundary update coming to Council on April 21 — a process initiated by the city in 2020, not by the applicant. The medical director explained that Pura Vita is a non-medical residential facility; all clients are ambulatory.
Public comment was extensive: roughly 60 speakers split between supporters (former clients, family members, healthcare workers, nonprofit partners) and opponents (Skyhawk neighbors, parents of Austin Creek Elementary students, physicians, and others raising concerns about site suitability, fire evacuation, proximity to a school, and the character of the neighborhood).
Council deliberation was heartfelt. Several members drew on personal experience with addiction and recovery to argue that recovery services belong in the community, not isolated from it. Councilmember Okrepkie stated he could not vote to exclude people in recovery from neighborhoods. Councilmembers Alvarez, Ben-Willow, and Step each spoke to the pervasiveness of addiction across all communities. Councilmember Fleming noted uncertainty about the intensity of use in apartment units, but the majority found the legal findings supported.
Councilmember MacDonald recused herself due to prior meetings with constituents involved in the appeal.
Vote: Motion to deny both appeals and uphold the Planning Commission's approval of the minor CUP. Moved by Vice Mayor Okrepkie, seconded by Councilmember Rogers. Passed 6-0, with Councilmember MacDonald recused.
Ordinance Introduction: Civil Immigration Enforcement and Use of City Property (Item 15.3)
Assistant City Manager Jason Nutt and City Attorney Alison Stricker presented a proposed ordinance adding Chapter 13-40 to the Santa Rosa City Code. The ordinance would: (1) establish that civil immigration enforcement is not a city purpose; and (2) prohibit use of city property in ways that disrupt city operations or discourage access to city services, unless the use furthers a city purpose or is traditionally available to the public. The ordinance is modeled on a recently adopted San Francisco ordinance and is designed to be enforceable — including by injunction — while not running afoul of federal supremacy by prohibiting ICE from city property where the public is generally admitted.
Staff emphasized the ordinance does not prohibit ICE from acting on public city property under the same terms as any member of the public, but would prevent exclusive or disruptive use (e.g., staging enforcement operations in a city parking lot).
Substantial public comment called for stronger language explicitly prohibiting non-cooperation and data-sharing with ICE by all city departments. Staff responded that non-cooperation is already covered by the city's 2017 Indivisible Cities Resolution, SB 54, and Police Department Policy 4.20 — but acknowledged these are scattered across multiple documents. Council directed staff to return with a subsequent, complementary ordinance or amendment consolidating non-cooperation and data-sharing prohibitions in one place. Several councilmembers supported moving this ordinance forward now rather than delaying it for a more comprehensive rewrite.
A minor clerical correction to Section 7 (a typo in the environmental determination) was incorporated into the motion.
Vote: Motion to introduce the ordinance as amended. Moved by Councilmember Ben-Willow, seconded by Councilmember MacDonald. Passed unanimously, 7-0. The ordinance will return for a second reading at the next meeting and will take effect 31 days after adoption.
Sonoma County Water Agency Proposed FY 2026-27 Rate Increase (Item 15.1)
Staff presented Sonoma Water's proposed 8.21% wholesale rate increase, from $1,400.86 to $1,515.87 per acre-foot. For the average Santa Rosa household (family of four, ~8,700 gallons/month in summer), the net estimated monthly impact is approximately $5.33 (6.4%), blended between the wholesale rate increase and previously adopted local rates. Staff noted they have returned to a "pass-through" rate approach for more predictability. Future years are projected to average approximately 7.6% annually over the next five years, down from projections shown last year.
Council directed its Water Advisory Committee representative to vote yes on the proposed budget and rate increase at the April 6 WAC meeting.
Vote: Motion by Councilmember Rogers, seconded by Vice Mayor Okrepkie. Passed 6-0, Councilmember Fleming absent.
General Plan and Inclusionary Housing Annual Review for 2025 (Item 15.2)
Staff presented the required annual review of General Plan implementation and the Inclusionary Housing Ordinance for calendar year 2025. Highlights included: 847 residential building permits issued (majority multifamily); progress toward RHNA targets at 31% of very low-income, 60% of low-income, and 98% of above-moderate; 23 on-site affordable units and ~$1.4 million in inclusionary fees collected; launch of the Active Transportation Plan; new downtown police substation; a 12% increase in fire calls over three years; and a 50% reduction in per-capita water demand since 1990.
Council waived the joint study session requirement with the Planning Commission (the Commission will receive the same presentation Thursday) and accepted the report.
Vote: Motion by Vice Mayor Okrepkie, seconded by Councilmember Rogers. Passed 6-0, Councilmember Fleming absent.
Consent Calendar (Item 13)
Consent items passed with Councilmember MacDonald recusing from Item 13.1 (personal relationship) and Vice Mayor Okrepkie recusing from Item 13.5 (business relationship). A minor clerical correction to a dollar amount in Item 13.9 (accurate in the resolution, incorrect in the agenda description) was noted for the record.
Vote: Passed 6-0, Councilmember Fleming absent.
Key Takeaways
Pura Vita Recovery appeal denied (6-0): The Council upheld the Planning Commission's approval of a 24-bed addiction treatment facility in Skyhawk Village, rejecting neighbor appeals after hours of public testimony and affirming that recovery services belong in the community.
Immigration enforcement ordinance introduced unanimously: The Council introduced an ordinance prohibiting use of city property for civil immigration enforcement and other uses that disrupt city services — with a second ordinance on non-cooperation and data-sharing directed to follow shortly.
South Santa Rosa Specific Plan advancing: Council gave staff direction on a preferred hybrid of the three land use alternatives, with strong emphasis on infrastructure-first in Moreland, anti-displacement protections, and county accountability — while acknowledging annexation remains a distant but necessary long-term goal.
Water rates will rise ~$5.33/month: Council directed its WAC representative to vote yes on Sonoma Water's 8.21% wholesale rate increase for FY 2026-27.
Homelessness encampment lawsuit settled at no cost to city: The eight-year federal lawsuit over a 2018 homeless encampment clearance was resolved with no monetary payment; the city agreed to administrative policy updates on handling unhoused individuals' property.
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What happened at this meeting
PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT (Government Code Section 54957)
The Council moved to closed session to discuss Item 3.1, Public Employment (Government Code Section 54957). Public commenter Janice raised concerns about city budget priorities, arguing that top executive salaries are too high while there are insufficient workers to address infrastructure issues like pothole repairs. She also criticized the appointment of Terry to the Planning Commission, noting concerns about the Waterways Committee which has not met regularly and has 3 years of unapproved minutes, calling this 'unacceptable government behavior' and requesting the committee be reconstituted with appropriate professional conduct. After closing public comment, the Council recessed into closed session.
SOUTH SANTA ROSA SPECIFIC PLAN LAND USE AND
# South Santa Rosa Specific Plan: Combined Discussion Summary
Staff presented the South Santa Rosa Specific Plan, a 1,900-acre long-range planning document across the South Center area along Rose Avenue that addresses land use, housing, circulation, and infrastructure for a demographically younger, lower-income population with significant Latino and foreign-born residents facing housing overcrowding and affordability challenges. The planning department outlined three land use alternatives—a Mixed Use Corridor redesign, City Centre Growth, and a hybrid approach—that would each add 9,500-10,000 residential units at full build-out while addressing existing infrastructure gaps including sidewalks, bike lanes, transit, and unsafe East-West connectivity. Community engagement efforts conducted since October 2024, including workshops and outreach at community events, revealed significant concerns from Moreland residents about infrastructure deficiencies, displacement risk for vulnerable populations (particularly Latino residents and mobile home park dwellers), and the need for annexation of unincorporated areas to provide city services. Council members raised questions about fiscal impacts and property tax revenue adequacy, infrastructure capacity before increasing density, and whether a hybrid alternative combining elements of multiple options would better balance economic development with community protection. Staff clarified that the Specific Plan is a zoning and land use guidance document similar to the General Plan, with detailed cost analysis for potential annexation and infrastructure financing to follow in future steps based on selection of a preferred alternative.
Staff presented the South Santa Rosa Specific Plan, a 1,900-acre long-range planning document across the South Center area along Rose Avenue that addresses land use, housing, circulation, and infrastructure for a demographically younger, lower-income population with significant Latino and foreign-born residents facing housing overcrowding and affordability challenges. The planning department outlined three land use alternatives—a Mixed Use Corridor redesign, City Centre Growth, and a hybrid approach—that would each add 9,500-10,000 residential units at full build-out while addressing existing infrastructure gaps including sidewalks, bike lanes, transit, and unsafe East-West connectivity. Community engagement efforts conducted since October 2024, including workshops and outreach at community events, revealed significant concerns from Moreland residents about infrastructure deficiencies, displacement risk for vulnerable populations (particularly Latino residents and mobile home park dwellers), and the need for annexation of unincorporated areas to provide city services. Council members raised questions about fiscal impacts and property tax revenue adequacy, infrastructure capacity before increasing density, and whether a hybrid alternative combining elements of multiple options would better balance economic development with community protection. Staff clarified that the Specific Plan is a zoning and land use guidance document similar to the General Plan, with detailed cost analysis for potential annexation and infrastructure financing to follow in future steps based on selection of a preferred alternative.
PROCLAMATION - WOMEN’S HISTORY MONTH
Councilmember MacDonald presented a proclamation recognizing Women's History Month for March 2026, with the theme "Leading the Change: Women Shaping the Sustainable Future." The proclamation acknowledged women's contributions to campaigns for equity, civil rights, professional and educational opportunities, and sustainability efforts, while recognizing that women from marginalized communities often experience the greatest impact from overlapping global challenges. Melanie Jones Carter, representative of the Sonoma County Commission on the Status of Women, thanked the council for the proclamation and reported that the commission has presented three panels on homelessness, immigration, and mental health, with an upcoming panel scheduled for April 9th. No public comments were raised on this item.
PROCLAMATION - AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH
# American Red Cross Month Proclamation Summary
The Santa Rosa City Council proclaimed March 2026 as American Red Cross Month to honor the organization's 145-year history of humanitarian service and its vital work in Sonoma County. Red Cross representatives presented their dual mission focus: disaster response (achieving a 95% readiness assessment score at Findlay Center) and preparedness programs including smoke alarm installation for low-income residents and K-12 fire safety education. Multiple volunteers shared their contributions, including Santa Rosa High School Red Cross Club President Rosie, who highlighted blood drives and smoke alarm installations in the Roseland area, and volunteer Denis Segment, who described disaster assistance to fire victims and services to military members and veterans. The council unanimously accepted the proclamation, recognizing the neighbors of Santa Rosa who support the Red Cross's mission of providing relief, comfort, and hope to those in need.
The Santa Rosa City Council proclaimed March 2026 as American Red Cross Month to honor the organization's 145-year history of humanitarian service and its vital work in Sonoma County. Red Cross representatives presented their dual mission focus: disaster response (achieving a 95% readiness assessment score at Findlay Center) and preparedness programs including smoke alarm installation for low-income residents and K-12 fire safety education. Multiple volunteers shared their contributions, including Santa Rosa High School Red Cross Club President Rosie, who highlighted blood drives and smoke alarm installations in the Roseland area, and volunteer Denis Segment, who described disaster assistance to fire victims and services to military members and veterans. The council unanimously accepted the proclamation, recognizing the neighbors of Santa Rosa who support the Red Cross's mission of providing relief, comfort, and hope to those in need.
NEW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TOOL Staff will provide information about the City’s new community engagement tool, “Let’s Talk Santa Rosa.” Council will take no action except for possible direction to staff. The costs associated with this item will be absorbed in the current year adopted budget.
Staff presented a new community engagement campaign called 'Let's Talk Santa Rosa' designed to gather community input on priorities for the 2026 city budget. Misty, Communications and Intergovernmental Relations Officer, explained that an earlier resident survey identified key priorities including emergency services, street maintenance, police response times, public space maintenance, and wildfire prevention. The Mayor asked clarifying questions about the survey timeline and emphasized the importance of gathering feedback quickly to inform budget decisions, noting that this engagement process would continue over months as budget discussions proceed. An online bilingual survey will be available starting the next evening at srcity.org/talk, with city staff also available to speak directly to community groups about the initiative.
Agenda items (30)
Procedural (7)
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12.1ProceduralMarch 10, 2026, Special Meeting Minutes.
Council will approve the minutes from the March 10, 2026 special meeting.
12.2ProceduralMarch 10, 2026, Regular Meeting Minutes.
Council will approve the minutes from the March 10, 2026 regular meeting.
21.1ProceduralUPCOMING MEETINGS LIST
Council will review a list of upcoming city meetings and events scheduled for the coming months.
Closed Session
3.1Closed SessionPUBLIC EMPLOYMENT (Government Code Section 54957)
Closed session discussion of a personnel matter related to government employment.
What happened
The Council moved to closed session to discuss Item 3.1, Public Employment (Government Code Section 54957). Public commenter Janice raised concerns about city budget priorities, arguing that top executive salaries are too high while there are insufficient workers to address infrastructure issues like pothole repairs. She also criticized the appointment of Terry to the Planning Commission, noting concerns about the Waterways Committee which has not met regularly and has 3 years of unapproved minutes, calling this 'unacceptable government behavior' and requesting the committee be reconstituted with appropriate professional conduct. After closing public comment, the Council recessed into closed session.General Business
4.1General BusinessSOUTH SANTA ROSA SPECIFIC PLAN LAND USE AND
Discussion of the South Santa Rosa Specific Plan's land use and related policies.
What happened
# South Santa Rosa Specific Plan: Combined Discussion SummaryStaff presented the South Santa Rosa Specific Plan, a 1,900-acre long-range planning document across the South Center area along Rose Avenue that addresses land use, housing, circulation, and infrastructure for a demographically younger, lower-income population with significant Latino and foreign-born residents facing housing overcrowding and affordability challenges. The planning department outlined three land use alternatives—a Mixed Use Corridor redesign, City Centre Growth, and a hybrid approach—that would each add 9,500-10,000 residential units at full build-out while addressing existing infrastructure gaps including sidewalks, bike lanes, transit, and unsafe East-West connectivity. Community engagement efforts conducted since October 2024, including workshops and outreach at community events, revealed significant concerns from Moreland residents about infrastructure deficiencies, displacement risk for vulnerable populations (particularly Latino residents and mobile home park dwellers), and the need for annexation of unincorporated areas to provide city services. Council members raised questions about fiscal impacts and property tax revenue adequacy, infrastructure capacity before increasing density, and whether a hybrid alternative combining elements of multiple options would better balance economic development with community protection. Staff clarified that the Specific Plan is a zoning and land use guidance document similar to the General Plan, with detailed cost analysis for potential annexation and infrastructure financing to follow in future steps based on selection of a preferred alternative.
7.1General BusinessPROCLAMATION - WOMEN’S HISTORY MONTH
Council will proclaim March as Women's History Month in Santa Rosa.
What happened
Councilmember MacDonald presented a proclamation recognizing Women's History Month for March 2026, with the theme "Leading the Change: Women Shaping the Sustainable Future." The proclamation acknowledged women's contributions to campaigns for equity, civil rights, professional and educational opportunities, and sustainability efforts, while recognizing that women from marginalized communities often experience the greatest impact from overlapping global challenges. Melanie Jones Carter, representative of the Sonoma County Commission on the Status of Women, thanked the council for the proclamation and reported that the commission has presented three panels on homelessness, immigration, and mental health, with an upcoming panel scheduled for April 9th. No public comments were raised on this item.7.2General BusinessPROCLAMATION - AMERICAN RED CROSS MONTH
Council will proclaim March as American Red Cross Month in Santa Rosa.
What happened
# American Red Cross Month Proclamation SummaryThe Santa Rosa City Council proclaimed March 2026 as American Red Cross Month to honor the organization's 145-year history of humanitarian service and its vital work in Sonoma County. Red Cross representatives presented their dual mission focus: disaster response (achieving a 95% readiness assessment score at Findlay Center) and preparedness programs including smoke alarm installation for low-income residents and K-12 fire safety education. Multiple volunteers shared their contributions, including Santa Rosa High School Red Cross Club President Rosie, who highlighted blood drives and smoke alarm installations in the Roseland area, and volunteer Denis Segment, who described disaster assistance to fire victims and services to military members and veterans. The council unanimously accepted the proclamation, recognizing the neighbors of Santa Rosa who support the Red Cross's mission of providing relief, comfort, and hope to those in need.
8.1General BusinessNEW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TOOL Staff will provide information about the City’s new community engagement tool, “Let’s Talk Santa Rosa.” Council will take no action except for possible direction to staff. The costs associated with this item will be absorbed in the current year adopted budget.
Staff will introduce 'Let's Talk Santa Rosa,' a new online tool for residents to engage with city government, with no action required unless council members give direction.
What happened
Staff presented a new community engagement campaign called 'Let's Talk Santa Rosa' designed to gather community input on priorities for the 2026 city budget. Misty, Communications and Intergovernmental Relations Officer, explained that an earlier resident survey identified key priorities including emergency services, street maintenance, police response times, public space maintenance, and wildfire prevention. The Mayor asked clarifying questions about the survey timeline and emphasized the importance of gathering feedback quickly to inform budget decisions, noting that this engagement process would continue over months as budget discussions proceed. An online bilingual survey will be available starting the next evening at srcity.org/talk, with city staff also available to speak directly to community groups about the initiative.9.1General BusinessREPORT OF SETTLEMENTS AND ACTIVE LITIGATION The City Attorney will report on all settlements authorized by Council in
The City Attorney will brief the council on recent legal settlements and ongoing lawsuits involving the city.
11.1General BusinessMAYOR'S/COUNCIL MEMBERS' SUBCOMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS (AND POSSIBLE COUNCIL DIRECTION TO BOARD REPRESENTATIVE ON PENDING ISSUES, IF NEEDED) 11.1.1 Council Subcommittee Reports 11.1.2 Sonoma County Transportation and Climate Authorities (SCTCA) 11.1.3 Sonoma County Water Agency (SCWA) - Water Advisory Committee 11.1.4 Association of Bay Area Governments (ABAG) 11.1.5 Sonoma County Agricultural Preservation and Open Space District
Council members will report on their work with various subcommittees and regional agencies including transportation, water, and planning authorities.
What happened
The Mayor provided a report on Mayor's and Council Members' liaison activities, including legislative updates from Sacramento regarding bills affecting Santa Rosa and Sonoma County, a meeting with the Secure Families Collaborative regarding immigration enforcement policy, and discussions about animal control policies in unincorporated areas. The Mayor also mentioned budget discussions held by the Santa Rosa Plain Groundwater Sustainability Agency and the Zero Waste Board, and expressed appreciation for city staff efforts in addressing budget challenges.15.1General BusinessREPORT - SONOMA COUNTY WATER AGENCY PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2026-27 WATER TRANSMISSION BUDGET AND RATE
Staff will present the Sonoma County Water Agency's proposed budget and water rates for 2026-27 for council review.
What happened
# SummaryThe Council discussed Sonoma County Water Agency's proposed fiscal year 2026-27 water transmission budget and rate increase, with Nick Harvey and Jake Spalding presenting the multi-step collaborative approval process and key challenges including aging infrastructure and vulnerability to natural hazards. The proposal includes proposed rate increases ranging from 8.21% to 8.97% for the three main water contractors, with Santa Rosa facing the lowest increase at 8.21% (resulting in an estimated $5.33 monthly impact for an average household), a $10.9 million capital budget for hazard mitigation and resiliency projects, and a total agency budget of $78.4 million. Council Member Rogers raised concerns about the impact on seniors and vulnerable populations, and staff explained that while the Help to Others (H2A) assistance program is fully subscribed, the city is exploring additional funding opportunities and water efficiency programs through the Sonoma Marin Water Saving Partnership. The Council will vote on instructing Councilmember Rogers how to vote on the proposal at an April 6th meeting, with final consideration by the county board of directors on April 28th.
15.2General BusinessREPORT - GENERAL PLAN AND INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ANNUAL
Staff will report on the city's General Plan and affordable housing requirements for the past year.
What happened
# SummaryStaff presented the 2025 General Plan and Inclusionary Housing Annual Review Report, a state-mandated submission showing Santa Rosa's progress on housing goals, including 847 residential units with permits issued, 23 on-site affordable units through the inclusionary housing ordinance, and approximately $1.4 million in fees collected for affordable housing development. The report also detailed comprehensive city initiatives across economic development, circulation improvements, open space conservation, greenhouse gas emissions reduction, historic resource protections, public art, safety measures, and public services enhancements, including a new downtown police substation and mental health support programs with improved response times. The Council approved waiving Council Policy 201 to allow separate Council and Planning Commission reviews rather than a joint study session, and the motion to accept the report passed with 6 affirmative votes, with Councilmember Fleming absent and Councilmembers Rogers and Fleming expressing appreciation for staff's work.
15.3General BusinessREPORT - ORDINANCE INTRODUCTION - ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA ADDING CHAPTER 13-40 TO THE SANTA ROSA CITY CODE TO (1) ESTABLISH THAT CIVIL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS NOT A CITY PURPOSE; AND (2) PROHIBIT USE OF CITY PROPERTY THAT WOULD DISRUPT CITY OPERATIONS OR DISCOURAGE ACCESS TO CITY SERVICES, UNLESS THE USE FURTHERS A CITY PURPOSE OR IS TRADITIONALLY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT CITY
Council will introduce a new ordinance declaring that civil immigration enforcement is not a city purpose and limiting immigration-related activities on city property.
What happened
# SummaryStaff presented Ordinance Chapter 13-40 to establish that civil immigration enforcement is not a city purpose and prohibit unauthorized use of city property by federal immigration enforcement agencies, protecting immigrant residents' access to municipal services including libraries, healthcare, and workforce centers. Based on San Francisco's model and aligned with the California Values Act, the ordinance includes four components: prohibiting unauthorized use of city property, restricting city officials from authorizing disruptive uses, authorizing the city attorney to pursue injunctions for violations, and reinforcing existing state law protections. City Attorney Stricker and staff emphasized that ordinances provide stronger legal direction than resolutions and explained that lack of distinction between federal and local enforcement has deterred immigrants from accessing basic services and negatively impacted public safety and community trust. Council members praised the effort, questioned whether the ordinance was sufficiently strong regarding information sharing restrictions and applicability to all city departments, and requested information about comparable ordinances in other jurisdictions; some members suggested amending the ordinance to reference existing protections like the 2017 Indivisible City resolution. The City Manager and City Attorney recommended moving forward with the current ordinance while committing to bring back an amended version addressing gaps regarding provisions applicable to other agencies, and the motion passed unanimously.
Consent Calendar
13.1Consent CalendarMOTION - APPROVAL OF THIRD AMENDMENT TO BLANKET PURCHASE ORDER NUMBER 168879 WITH ANIMAL DAMAGE MANAGEMENT (THIS ITEM IS CONTINUED FROM THE MARCH 10, 2026, REGULAR MEETING DUE TO LACK OF QUORUM) RECOMMENDATION: The Transportation and Public Works Department and Finance Department recommend that the Council, by motion, approve the Third Amendment to Blanket Purchase Order Number 168879 with Animal Damage Management, Inc., Morgan Hill, California to extend the term and increase compensation in the amount of $35,000, for a total contract not to exceed $135,000, and authorize the Purchasing Agent to make non-substantive changes to the Agreement, subject to approval by the City Attorney, and execute the Amendment. This item has no impact on current fiscal year budget.
Council will extend and increase a contract with Animal Damage Management, Inc. by $35,000 to manage wildlife issues in Santa Rosa.
What happened
The Council voted on a motion to adopt consent items 13.1, 13.2 through 13.3, with Vice Mayor Okrepkie, while squeezing item 13.5 and Council Member Mike recusing herself from item 13.1. The City Clerk noted a minor clerical correction was needed on item 13.9 (not 13.1 as initially stated). The motion passed with 6 affirmative votes, with Council Member Fleming absent.13.2Consent CalendarMOTION - 2025 ANNUAL PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS REPORT RECOMMENDATION: The City Clerk’s Office recommends that the Council, by motion, accept the 2025 Annual Public Records Requests Report. This item has no impact on current fiscal year budget.
Council will accept the city's 2025 annual report on how many public records requests residents submitted and how the city processed them.
13.3Consent CalendarMOTION - APPROVAL OF SECOND AMENDMENT TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT NUMBER F002573 FOR GRANT WRITING SERVICES WITH CALIFORNIA PUBLIC POLICY GROUP, INC. (THIS ITEM IS CONTINUED FROM THE FEBRUARY
Council will approve an expansion of the city's grant-writing services contract with California Public Policy Group, Inc.
13.4Consent CalendarMOTION - WAIVER OF COMPETITIVE BID AND APPROVAL OF ISSUANCE OF A PURCHASE ORDER WITH TURNSTONE DATA INC., TO CONTINUE AND EXPAND DATA ANALYTIC SERVICE FOR
Council will approve a purchase order with Turnstone Data Inc. to continue and expand data analytics services for the city.
13.5Consent CalendarMOTION - APPROVAL - SECOND AMENDMENT TO GENERAL SERVICES AGREEMENT F002980 WITH ENERGY ENDEAVORS, dba WESTCOAST SOLAR ENERGY RECOMMENDATION: The Finance Department recommends that the Council, by motion: 1) approve the Second Amendment to General Services Agreement Number (GSA) F002980 with Energy Endeavors, dba Westcoast Solar Energy, Santa Rosa, California, to add eGauge monitoring system at eight (8) locations and compensation in the amount of $44,000, for a total amount not to exceed $124,030; and 2)
Council will add solar energy monitoring equipment at eight city locations through an expanded agreement with Westcoast Solar Energy, costing an additional $44,000.
13.6Consent CalendarMOTION - CONTRACT AWARD - CALISTOGA ROAD PAVEMENT REHABILITATION AND UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS - MONTECITO
Council will award a contract for pavement rehabilitation and utility improvements on Calistoga Road in the Montecito area.
13.7Consent CalendarMOTION - CONTRACT AWARD - GALVIN COURTS RENOVATION RECOMMENDATION: The Transportation and Public Works Department recommends that the Council, by motion, award Contract Number C02554 Galvin Courts Renovation, in the amount of $4,239,254.55 to the lowest responsible bidder, Argonaut Constructors, Inc. of Santa Rosa, California, approve a 15% contract contingency in the amount of $635,888.18, and authorize the City Manager or designee to execute the Contract and any change orders in a total contract amount of up to $4,875,142.73. No City General Fund money is included in this project.
Council will award a $4.2 million contract to renovate Galvin Courts, a city recreation facility.
13.8Consent CalendarRESOLUTION - SECOND AMENDMENT TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT NUMBER F003103 WITH VAN DERMYDEN MAKUS LAW CORPORATION FOR CONTINUED LEGAL SERVICES
Council will extend the city's legal services agreement with Van Dermyden Makus Law Corporation.
13.9Consent CalendarRESOLUTION - APPROPRIATION OF $7,592,405.31 IN REGIONAL ENTERPRISE FUNDS TO REPLACE LOCAL WASTEWATER ENTERPRISE FUNDS CURRENTLY SUPPORTING THE LAGUNA
Council will approve transferring $7.6 million from regional enterprise funds to support the city's wastewater treatment facility (Laguna).
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The City Clerk corrected the record to clarify that item 13.9 (not 13.1) contained the minor clerical correction that had been referenced during the consent agenda discussion. This correction was acknowledged before the final vote on the consent items.13.10Consent CalendarRESOLUTION - 2026 SERVICE CONTRACT WITH THE SANTA
Council will approve a 2026 service contract with Santa Rosa.
13.11Consent CalendarRESOLUTION - EXTENSION OF PROCLAMATION OF LOCAL
Council will extend a local proclamation from a previous date.
13.12Consent CalendarORDINANCE ADOPTION SECOND READING - ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA AMENDING TITLE 20 AND TITLE 21 OF THE CITY CODE TO IMPLEMENT THE 2023-2031 HOUSING ELEMENT AND STATE LAW - FILE NUMBER PLN25-0397 RECOMMENDATION: The Planning and Economic Development Department and the Planning Commission recommend that the Council approve the second reading and adopt an ordinance to implement the 2023-2031 housing element and state law. This ordinance, introduced at the March 10, 2026, Regular Meeting, passed by a 5-0-2-0 vote (Stapp and Fleming Absent).
Council will formally adopt an ordinance updating city zoning and development rules to implement the city's 2023-2031 housing plan and comply with state housing laws.
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# SummaryThe Santa Rosa City Council discussed an ordinance amendment to establish protections against ICE immigration enforcement on city property and establish Santa Rosa as an "ice-free zone." The City Attorney explained the ordinance's legal framework, distinguishing between judicial and administrative warrants and clarifying that the ordinance does not interfere with federal officers' independent authority. Community members from the Sonoma County Sanctuary Coalition, including Linda Evans, Scott, Mary Michaels, Renee Socorro, and Isabel Page, urged the Council to strengthen the ordinance with more explicit non-collaboration language prohibiting city employees from sharing information with ICE and directly banning federal agents from city property, emphasizing that current language was insufficient to address immigrant residents' fears about accessing city services. The City Attorney and City Manager presented recommendations to clarify and consolidate existing anti-ICE protections currently spread across multiple ordinances and policies, while the Mayor and Council members discussed whether to add references to the city's Indivisible City resolution and create a public-facing website explaining all protections. Staff indicated they could incorporate amendments into the current ordinance or return with subsequent legislation, depending on council preference.
13.13Consent CalendarORDINANCE ADOPTION SECOND READING - ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA AMENDING TITLE 20 OF THE SANTA ROSA CITY CODE BY AMENDING CHAPTER 20-49
Council will formally adopt an ordinance amending the city's zoning code (Title 20).
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The City Attorney and Police Department presented an ordinance addressing the use of city property by federal immigration enforcement (ICE) agents. The ordinance establishes that any use of city property must be consistent with city policies and includes exceptions for First Amendment activities and other specified situations. The City Attorney emphasized that the ordinance does not interfere with federal immigration enforcement efforts but rather restricts exclusive use of city property as a staging ground. The Police Chief highlighted that Santa Rosa police officers will never assist federal agents in immigration enforcement by policy and state law, and noted safety and legal concerns regarding potential confrontations between armed city police and federal agents. Public comments were heard from Susan, a community member who discussed the historical context of immigration and privilege, arguing that the council should be brave in opposing immigration enforcement policies; and Scott, who expressed appreciation for the council's urgency in adopting the ordinance and commended the comparative analysis with other Bay Area jurisdictions.Additional votes recorded in minutes
Deny appeal and uphold Planning Commission approval of Pura Vita Recovery Services minor conditional use permit
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Alvarezaye
Ben Willowsaye
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MacDonaldrecused
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Introduce ordinance adding Chapter 13-40 to the Santa Rosa City Code regarding civil immigration enforcement and city property use
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Alvarezaye
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Approve Sonoma Water proposed FY 2026-27 water transmission budget and rate increase and direct WAC representative to vote yes
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Ben Willowsaye
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Waive joint study session requirement and accept General Plan and Inclusionary Housing Annual Review Report for 2025
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Ben Willowsaye
Flemingabsent
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Approve consent calendar items (excluding 13.1 and 13.5 due to recusals)
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Alvarezaye
Ben Willowsaye
Flemingabsent
MacDonaldaye
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>> I'd like to ask the interpreters currently on the Spanish and Mandarin channels took a pencil to partition of the meeting for those just joining the meeting, live interpretation in Spanish and Mandarin is available. And members of the public or staff wishing to listen in Spanish or Mandarin can join those channels by clicking on the interpretation icon and the Zoom toolbar. It looks like a globe. If you're on your cell phone or tablet locate the 3 dots kept them lightly and put a check mark on your preferred language. Click done to activate and begin the interpretation. Won't you join the Spanish or Mandarin channels? We recommend you shut off the main audio. So you only hear the Spanish or Mandarin interpretation. This message will be restated in Spanish and Mandarin. Is he go ahead? >> Do you want to start of his lead attorney on the lead? But the knitting to put this she went bananas Spagnuolo and that By dusk, which Atlanta protests unit fine. State poor in any corner of local to You kayvon of it in a pot to give up with the ship. Yet as soon. This was a within a school could a deal by the superintendent's Yanez to Kussow Spanish voice by known. Yes, pkg Understood. This is what they live for to that when we're not Look at signals to this board discuss within us that in that. But this stupid old point video to teach at issue. I get this storm. For the next little pk established by the split looks young. They think that that's
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with the exception of Councilmember Alvarez in Councilmember Fleming. >> Thank you. All right. We'll move on to item 3 are closed session item and this item, 2.1 pertains to public employment, Janice, that you wish to make public comment on this item. >> Good afternoon. Thank you, Mayor public employment. I don't know which you're looking at today. I there on agenda. I did. Are they on the agenda who who you're looking at? And cnn. Public comments, the budget, the budget coming up. I think percent last year was too low to cut the salaries. >> I'm talking about the top salaries of this city. The city is overwhelming with people who are heading departments. And then there's not enough workers and everybody is complaining about it. And the potholes still not been fixed. There's been a promise for a long time in SEPTEMBER AUGUST. I finally heard it through recreation and Bicycle Committee meeting the area Calistoga Road. >> We checked on unusual call on Sunday before I ran for city council in the NOVEMBER election. It was from a woman and her teenage son or her older son. And she called and she wanted to know what I thought about apartment building on the corner of Highway 12 in Calistoga Road. And I said don't get me started on that. This running for city council. She would
identify yourself. Okay, moving forward. I just want to make a notice about meetings. >> are supposed to be boards and commissions and coming back to the budget. I think there should be a 12 to 15% on the top executives throughout the city. It would be painful for a while, but it MAY help. And I think that there needs to be more. Sovereignty for the people to be able to make efforts and have them come to fruition with the city and infrastructure is what I've been talking about all along and we've not gotten it, but also Diana's appointment of Terry to the Planning Commission has we have no rose parade and now we have no waterways meeting at all unless there's an emergency and the waterways are really important. Terry showed up the first meeting. >> And it was the first meeting in 3 months and they had 3 years of minutes that haven't been approved. So this is unacceptable government behavior and I hope you can get it together. Put the waterways back together and not send people like Terry, a new member to say welcome to my house. I've got the year that wasn't very nice. He supposed to be a professional official. Thank you, Janice. All right. Seeing no other members of the public here will close public comment and recess in a closed session. Reconvene in open session. MADAM City clerk, would you please call the roll? >> Thank you, Mayor Councilmember Rogers.
Councilmember MacDonald here, Councilmember Fleming Councilmember Ben Willows for U.S.. PRESIDENT Vice Mayor Cookie here. Mayor step Let the record show that all councilmembers are present. >> Thank you very much. We will move on to item 4.1. Our study session on the South Santa Rosa specific specific plan land use and circulation alternatives. Welcome back to our planning department. This is a oldie but a goodie. >> Good afternoon. Mayor staff members of the council. It was Carmack a senior planner with the planning division. I'm excited to be here to present to see when Houston circulation Alternatives Study Session for the City Council this afternoon. For the South Center of the specific part. So just a quick outline of what will be discussing going to want a specific plan is just refresh everybody's memories. And then we're going to each of the alternatives and we'll talk about next steps for the specific plan process. So similar to a general specific plan is a long-range planning document for a specific geographic area. So the general plan establishes development and vision and policies throughout the entire city. Whereas a specific plan looks at a specific geographic area defined area and programs for that for that area. Things of the specific land that. Covers are the types of housing jobs, shops, services and where they belong in the specific plan and how do people move around
so circulation, transportation, what modes of transportation to folks who's walking biking, scooters, cars, public transit, it said also infrastructure. So what type of infrastructure is needed for this special year plan build out and finally public facilities like parks and pathways and libraries and schools and things of that nature as well. So the South Santa Rosa specific plan area covers approximately 1900 acres in the broader South Center is a area along Rose Avenue. As you'll see on slide. It does include areas of the city, but also the county. Approximately 1400 of the 1900 acres of the specific plan area are in the county with the remaining 500 and the city. The specific plan boundary follows the Metropolitan Transportation Commission's prior development area boundary and the city's spirit influence on the specific plans also funded by and to see Grant. Also note here that the specific plan does not include a city initiated annexation, as was the case with the Roseland specific plan. So that is not the case in this process. I'll go over some quick demographic information for the specific plan area. I won't get into every line item here, but kind of a takeaways are that the population of the South Centre is a specific plan area are younger and lower-income compared to both the city and the county at large. There is a higher percentage of Latino and foreign born residents and there are also a higher percentage of residents that are either bilingual or only speaking on an English language. The specific plan area also features household sizes that are larger than the city and the county at with
the eu single family dwelling housing type, dominating the share of of housing types in the plan area. Worth noting is that the mobile home housing type is the second prevalent housing type in the area, which is a a higher percentage than both the city and the county. Additionally, there's a lot of overcrowding compare compared to other areas of the city and the county. And that would be if there's more than one person per bedroom and then also a lot of overburdened populations with as well who are paying more than 50% of their income on housing. So as a part of the kind of visioning phase of this project, I think last year I was at the council, I presented the community engagement strategy. So we fully and acting that strategy in OCTOBER of 2024, we have a series of workshops gathering feedback from folks about their lived experiences in the specific plan and kind of bring storms some solutions to those problems. We also distributed visioning survey and the tenant a variety of events such as the Cinco De Mayo Celebration on Sebastopol Road. The Harvest Festival at a bear farm. We actually went to that one twice. The Vance, Harper South Park a day and night festival at Veterans Building. And Andy Lopez Unity Park cleanups with the Sonoma County Regional Parks group. So a lot of us are familiar with the South Center is a area and Moreland area and we understand some of the issues folks experience there. But just to kind of summarize them, a lot of the neighborhoods in the plan area. Our very disparate in terms of the quality and availability of
infrastructure, such as sidewalks, bike lanes, public transit, things of that nature. There's also significant East-West connectivity issues. So a lot of folks and Moreland struggle to go east to the retail space on Center's Avenue. The Todd Road Overcrossing. It is unsafe for both cars but also kind of unthinkable to even consider biking in and walking and completely safe. There. A lot of dead ends and that b# # # up to one a one that were historically connected streets that were disconnected as a result of the construction of highway 101. There's also just a lack of medical facilities and grocery facility, grocery stores, very low park space in the plan area and particularly a lack of services in the Moreland area. This slide shows the existing land uses as we're familiar, the commercial corridor of Centers Avenue is kind of the primary land use in the area. The Costco shopping center of the Shopping Center. And then there's some kind of scattered industrial to the south and southwest of the plan area. And don't know here you can see the prevalence of mobile home parks Centers avenue as well. And that kind of pink pink color. And then note here this the hash area that's white is a vacant. And to kind get into the vacant a little bit. And the and the next couple slides. As we all know, the council did adopt the general plan 2050, update in JUNE of last year. The general plan land use designations largely match existing land use map that we just saw with the center's avenue serving as retail and business service
corridor. There's also note the low low density and we didn't residential kind of in the middle of the plan area and to the east and the west in Moreland. Okay. So I mentioned the vacant sites we conducted and analysis to conclude what we recalling underutilized sites which are where there's not much development, but there's a high assessed value. So as a result of the adoption of the specific plan and land use changes, these are sites that are most reasonably we didn't most reasonably conclude that they would be developed or redeveloped as a part of the process. Okay. So I'm getting into the alternatives and alternatives report presents. Different approaches to solutions to the issues that we heard as a result of our community outreach and each of each alternative is kind of a distinct approach to those issues. And then the feedback that we receive in all these alternatives will eventually inform the creation of a preferred alternative, which will serve as the basis of land use changes associated with a specific plan. Our first alternative told mixed use corridor this alternative re imagines the South Santa Rosa Avenue corridor as a mixed use. Walkable. But with both residential and retail spaces. A lot of the there are a few kind of components of each alternative that are largely similar, if not the same across each alternative. So notably the west side of specific point area maintains largely the industrial
designation and the east is maintaining the general plan land use designation included with General plan 2050 as low and some medium density residential development. To As I mentioned, this is a mixed use with the commercial center on the southern portion of book of the 2 mixed use hubs. The second alternative is City Centre Growth. So that's kind of looking at the existing retail space in the Costco in the surrounding area and increasing residential density in those areas. And then In But it envisions increased residential development in the Moreland neighborhood as well with with a new commercial center supported residential developments. And finally, we have the centers, which is of little bit of a mix of the one in 2. So we have the southern side of the Costco shopping center has increased residential density and then we have a smaller scale. Mixed use walkable hub the south. Southern Senators Avenue corridor area. And then this notably takes underutilized sight to the west of Andy Lopez Park. Not a sight to put a kind of block, a little district visions, medium density residential development there to support a new proposed commercial center across the street from him to oppose Park. And then little bit notably about the different alternatives. Consider how folks on either side of one to one. Crossover highway 101. So with about a crossing Bellevue Robles and how we can improve the
crossing Todd Road as well. So in terms of build-out, all the alternatives would add between 9510,000 new residential units as a result, a full build out and the industrial category. As you'll note on the right comes from distance maintaining that existing designation of industrial in the west side of the specific plan area. As I mentioned. Here's a vmt comparison will really get into But I do want to take this opportunity to remind us that the specific plan, once we have a preferred alternative and we move through that process, we'll begin preparing an environmental impact report that would analyze the full build out of this specific plan process. So speaking of next steps, we do have a survey open right now that has over 100 responses gathering feedback on people's thoughts on the different alternatives. We did hold another series of public workshops cameras academy to him I wouldn't read and we had a one a virtually held on Zoom. And then you know, after as I mentioned, we'll take the feedback that we've heard from the council in from the Planning Commission and from the community and draft, a preferred alternative. And then after which rule do another series of outreach to make sure that we got it right, we want to make sure the issues have been addressed. We haven't heard from folks do lots of coverage to that end and also not on the slide, but we are presenting to the Senate. The Sonoma County Planning Commission and Board of Supervisors this summer as well with the goal of the board of supervisors, attention potentially adopting the plan as their own. So the
land use policies and development patterns would be consistent through the city and the county regardless of where the city limit its. So here's just some helpful links and some contact information on the Web pages. The far-left qr code. There's email distribution sign up with hundreds of folks already signed up. So if you're in the crowd or watching on YouTube or something. Recommend signing up for email distribution list and then all her survey, as I mentioned, is the far-right, your courage. I encourage you fill that out. So that is all I have to present. Happy to take questions or just stuff. You have any thoughts about each of these alternatives? Would you like what you don't like? Looking forward to the conversation. Thank you both. This is a huge plan and he stepped forward the city. So thank you for bringing this to us today. Looking to council for questions. >> Start with understand Wheeless. Thank you, >> Thank you for that report. Thank you. Looks very comprehensive. I wonder if you could tell me between the 3 alternatives. What are real difference is? >> each alternative concentrates higher density residential development in different areas and some of the alternative is lean more heavily on the existing retail development thinking that the retail uses might change over. If there's more dense residential development in that area. And then as I mentioned, the different locations of crossings into the Moreland area from Senators Avenue Each of them has a different approach to that as well. And the parks locations and the scale of the parks themselves. >> And I understand that the county is partnering with the
city on this plan and you're going to county Planning Commission sent. Okay. So I'm just wondering. Why annexation is not. Being addressed at all at this point. I I feel like Moreland is a low income are invested community. Therefore its disadvantage. So in my mind, it definitely qualifies for annexation. It's $0.53 to 53% of them up. According to figures, Latino and it's it's called out everywhere. And I think my concern is that it's great that we're partnering with the county, but when it actually comes to implementing whatever alternative I think there should be a combination of alternatives, quite frankly. But whatever we decide we collectively decide, I'm more worried about. Quite frankly, the county not doing their part, you know, just because many of those areas are in the county and nothing has happened except for Andy's Park. Thank goodness. But other than that, I don't see any movement and any way for folks to get across 2 Saint Rose Avenue easily I drive home Saint Rose Avenue almost every day from my work. Really familiar with that out there all the time. Then you you know, is fantastic. But we need more. So I'm just going to say that for now. And I would. So anyway, the question of annexation, if you could address that as well, please. >> So we did have a discussion of the council. Couple years a few years ago, kind of exploring different options for annexation, whether that be all this area. Justin Orland area MAY be just the
existing county islands and we ran some numbers and really kind of back of a napkin math on what that would cost for to bring things up to city standards and provide city utilities and services. And at that time it was determined to be infeasible. And think with the ever changing financial landscape, I think it I would assume that that has not changed. And when was >> I absolutely does have to I gonna hold you to that date? But I just mean about how many years ago is that I believe is 2022. Okay. Jessica Jones, deputy thank you. Good afternoon. Council Jessica Jones Deputy deputy director of planning. Sorry, it's been a long week for me. >> Thank you for the question, councilmember. So yes, the Council Health Study Session JANUARY of 2023. And so yes, as senior planner McKay mentioned, we brought forward some rough numbers on what that might look like. Just to one do the annexation, just the staff work involved in, bring everything forward on the analysis and getting it to Laugh Co local agency formation commission and then also some potential ideas on what the ultimate cost would be to provide services and do the infrastructure needed to bring everything up to city standards. It it was a large cost. So that time Council did not direct staff to move forward. But instead identified wanting to continue conversation but no specific direction to move forward with the act annexation at that time. Thank you for that. I think that's it. For now. I'm gonna. And hold out rest of my comments for a little bit later. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, MR. Donald. Thank you, mayor, along those same My question was, is any part of planned 1, 2, or 3? Does that include annexation at all? On these maps? Not about know, ok, and the reason I think this is an important question and where I'm going to go along the lines of Councilmember Ben Willows but died a little bit deeper into that data because they think it's going to come up. >> As we talk about the specific plans. How much do we get from the county each year on the infrastructure for Roseland? That was nearly in our next to have that figure. So I don't have that fear is certainly something that we can get for council. Ic assistant city manager and got Yes. So somebody has the answer. Feels like so sorry. And while that while they come down just real quick, I do want to clarify. So while we do not have a city initiated annexation, that is. >> Currently being pursued. There is a private development that considering annexation in the southeast portion of the project area. So just want to bring that to the council considering they're considering us annex saying considering, but bringing forward an applicant driven annexation. Well, these questions would then be relevant with that as well. So can you tell me how much we get $662,000 over 10 years and next year's the final year of those payments. >> So we get $662,000 a year. The infrastructure for our newest acquisition. Can you tell me how much money the city has spent? And infrastructure over the last 9
years? It seems like. >> We have Spence a little bit more than 4 and a half million dollars. We caught up quite a bit last year, but we are not going to get to every street that we were supposed to with that 6.6 million dollars. >> So we've only spent 4 and a half million dollars and there's a structure. Yeah, we've received just under 6 million to date. >> I'm not asking what we received. I'm asking what our coffers have signed of non county money on the streets. I have yet have to go back through our cip and detail. So as as Iran as we look at this, I would like to know those figures. I think that's important for us to know. It's not. As I think Caroline has eloquently, they're not and teeing up enough from the county and neglected areas within the city is taking on because they deserve to be taken care of. And so those numbers and that data, I think are critical as we had these conversations because it's hard to go and do a specific plan that, you know, it's going to help uplift an area that and then another area could be left out. But we have to know that we can actually financially take that on before we do it. And I know they're hard questions, but I think it's something I would want to know. And how many staff members have. We added to the city's sense that acquisition. Any public safety year, anyone at all I'm not sure that we have that information right now. But again, certainly something that we can get to the council. I think that's something I would want to know as well. For a lot of different reasons. I feel like we're strong pretty thin on
our current infrastructure and what our staff is asked to do. And so I want to make sure that we're balancing that out when it comes to the economic development of that. How much is a city or what percentage do we get on property taxes? Her budget. I think there's a misnomer that the city gets property taxes when in fact it goes mostly to the county. If I'm correct and then we get a little percentage of that. And I think that's important because as we look at housing, ok, MR. Wagner just walked in as we look at housing potentially, I think it's important to know how much we're actually gaining for property tax when they say without should take care of everything when, in fact, it doesn't come to us. Goes back to the county who then antes up $662,000 a year. But they're getting about how much in property taxes for all those beautiful homes been built there. MR. Or do you have answer for me of the percentage that we get on property tax? >> Good afternoon. Mayor SEPTEMBER's the council's Scott, like your Finance Department. There was me because I just stepped in. But your question, Councilmember MacDonald, the city receives around 14% of the one percent of property taxes that can levy by the county. So you think about it if. There's a worth of property tax, send it to the counting. So we get $0.14 of that. We'll add totally. That is a fairly small percentage. When we look at agencies of our size within their counties. >> Is that distributed because of state law that we are our own county.
>> It's a mixture of both. And like all things, property taxes, there's a tie back to Prop 13 of when when those agreements between the counties in the municipalities happened at the passage of Prop 13 that locked us into that 14%. That's interesting to me. >> Thank you for that answer. But businesses are in the area along the corridor of your specific plans. Can you do have an answer? For that? The map is so teeny. I couldn't zoom and well on that. And my eyes are too old. So I couldn't see. If we're adopting on any of the alternatives. Current businesses. >> Yes, a lot of like used car lots and small retail spaces that so not necessarily kind of like neighborhood serving stuff, more destinations. So hot tub, spa sales car rentals, self storage. Those types of things. >> I'm I'm thinking Santa Rosa Avenue and going down. If I'm looking at like, do we get Friedman brother is get any of those on alternative 1, 2, or 3 year? There's some other. I think larger retail businesses out there companies. >> Yeah, construction Freeman's is definitely in. This was plan boundary. Yes, which All of the boundary is the same across all the alternatives that just each alternative looks at different areas within the overall plan. 4 different development, densities and intensities. >> because you're asking about housing, I think I'd still like some more information. So
if we're building 600 houses, how much money does the city get from that like our economic impact? Because I'm told a lot, you know, we get we get impact from that. But I'm still never been able to like drill down and find out how much that is from an economic standpoint because finally getting $0.14 of dollar on property taxes. Is it coming from someplace else? >> Good afternoon, Mayor vice mayor members the council gave Osburn director of planning and economic development. Thank you, councilmember for that question. It is a very challenging question to answer. There are no one revenue stream. So obviously as we build new housing units that is generating new property taxes, then there gets into the whole equation as to whether you're increasing population or not. And how is that population spending dollars on sales tax essentially? So a lot of our economic development strategy focuses on leakage and keeping those transactions with in our trade market to ensure that we get those sales taxes. But as we know, humans are very dynamic in between online sales and leaving the trade market. Very difficult to figure that out, obviously with development, depending on the level of infrastructure that installs it could have more of a cost burden. So, for example, for sprawling or we're building out with less density, there are more roadways that are there and injected into the into the inventory. If it's building park space that goes into the inventory. So multifamily tennis has a tendency to
generate a higher return. Her taxable for property taxes per taxable square footage and has less of a burden on infrastructure. So it differs. But unfortunately, there is not a tried and true calculation that determines what that is. But generally what we've seen with the increase in housing, it does generate is just how it offsets from an expenditure standpoint. >> I think that that hits the nail on the head for make a buzz. Where are we getting money back to infuse into our coffers and what is being expended as far as what we're adding so of the 3 alternatives. Can I ask you what would be the least amount that has to go out or what would be can't just be straight across net, you revenue for us. It actually has to be again, in my opinion, on choices because if we're adding more space, we should be considering more staff to take care of the space. If we're adding other infrastructure and we're adding facilities or uses for the community. My concern is we're not able to maintain it. And that's why I think those I need a little bit more of which is going the best option for a lot of different reasons for the city. So appreciate all you tolerating all the questions on this wanted to use is a big choice on how we continue to develop in the city. As far as the child turned goes, the first is projected to have the fewest residential units as a result of full build out. I will say, as I mentioned, it's not a huge difference. So the smallest one is about 9500 new units and the largest one with just over 10,000. So just a
matter of about 500 units being different between all 3 alternatives. Thank you so much. >> MR. Craig Thank you, MISTER Mayor, thanks so much for that presentation. Can help clarify something for me. This is just a e planning document, right? Much like our general plan to give us a guidance for into the future and not an actual action item to take any action in the near future. Is that correct? Okay. So any of the zonings that we give give direction to today, the sort that can always be change in the future by any council action. If you want to change is only are the sort of planning right? That is correct. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for that clarification. Just a couple of questions for me. So Runner Park has some interesting development underway Rohnert Park and actually a Federated needs. A great rancheria with the casino where you got to fairly sizable urban hubs that are being generated down there around the casino and with the new city center are park. >> That was obviously are pretty close to the end of Centers Avenue and where where the city and new or Santa Rosa Rohnert together. There are those developments being considered as we look at some Santa Rosa? Just just in terms of few long-term future development in that space for for those communities. >> I don't believe those large development projects in Rohnert Park are specifically addressed in this. But I will say there is like us overall circulation analysis that will be performed. That would account for regional traffic and transportation network issues. But I don't know beyond that. How if at all those been considered as part of this process. >> ok, I'm just going want to
add to that. >> At thank you for the question, mayor. I would just add that once we get to the portion of environmental review for the specific plan, there will be full traffic analysis which will look at projects that are either pending or have been recently developed so well, look at you know, at least the transportation impacts of all of those. Now people and and uses in Parke. >> Perfect and course by just a guy many might know about my apologies. But again, back to the annexation discussion for a second because this is this is an important one for the community understand and probably touched on tonight. You've mentioned it are both of you hit on a wood in terms of the kinds of traffic studies that we need to do, the kinds of road improvements that we need to make. Are there. If we were to go ahead with with full scale annexation, we're talking about new fire stations. New police substations and I I understand that we are low to get to put any kind of dollar figure on this because it would be it would be very much an estimate. But is it possible to list the kinds of infrastructure that that the city will be will have to put into place the city in conjunction with development partners long term in order even think about annexation in the in the South Center is our area just in terms of again, as I mentioned, fire stations, substations road improvements just to give the community a sense of how large the investment is careful the city has to be in the space. >> Yeah. All start might need some assistance or even
correction. So the specific plan includes the preparation of infrastructure, infrastructure development, plan, financing plan. But it doesn't necessarily. Measure the costs of a full annexation of the specific plan process of this was planned area because that's not involved in the process. I think if we wanted that, it would be much more detailed study and that that's in the scope of the specific plan. >> And American actually add to Connor mention some really good points. But I think what's important to note is really what we're going through is more of a some situations are is zoning exercise. So that's really determining how land is used and then determines how circulation goes to those land uses. And general programming of that land. And then obviously as the development occurs, there's more of a better understanding of materializes and then the cost of providing that service. And in this particular case, there's another exercise which would be annexation and that annexation could act as a whole. That annexation could be initiated by the city or the annexation, which we anticipate can be initiated by a property owner. Obviously it's initiated by the property owner. There's more of a discussion through last going with the ultimate boundary of that annexation is. But there's also an exercise to understand the cost services to the city. As far as taking that over. So really where we are right now, as we have to understand the general direction from a planning standpoint and then that allows us to come in through the mathematical calculation to better understand what it looks like in the event that
that number one materializes and then the city takes that overthrew 90 station process. So hopefully that helps provide a little more context to that. You for that clarity and that. >> Yes, it We are only talking with the planning for the the parts of that area that are currently within city purview. However, in the city conversation right now and people look at that area, there are e it's it's alive. Topic of conversation is even our questions on on the show. >> So Rove. >> They can be very clear. We are not talking about annexation today and there are many steps between now and then I do think it's helpful if we have any figures available and I've seen some from fired prior study Sessions just to give just to give the community a sense of what the scope is for that future conversation. If the city to Woodward consider annexation in this area, which this planning is every stead tentative step towards just how large a decision that is and how and how much of an undertaking that is for the city. I want to belabor this point, but there's a if there are a few sentences that can they can give people a sense of just how significant that kind of investment is. That will helpful for that for the community discussion. >> Yeah, I think absolutely. That's something that we can look forward to in the future. Obviously, we do understand that there is a lot of interest in the community about annexation, understanding the complexities of annexation, the cost in the boundary. But as we look at and we were close with our finance department, we understand from operational standpoint what it takes to serve that we will do our best as this progresses to scratch out some preliminary numbers. So it helps provide guidance to that decision. Making. If if I MAY mayor, I can do that. A couple sons is a play during it. So when we went through
this exercise in 2023, the the comment that was you know, given by the finance Department, is that the best information ultimately comes from our departments and what they need outside of planning documents outside of studies that happened from outside sources and we went through that exercise in 2023. And ultimately again coming out. Your question of do we have an idea of what that was? We do. It was the police department asking for newbie. Probably needing a new beat because ultimately we look at the deployment of city resources. Sometimes it's that one little extra need that pushes you over into needing additional. So we're looking at a substation. We're looking at additional fee for police down there as well as fire station, of course, on one with all the public works needs that then are going really be up and above when we looked at that strictly on an operating basis, it was underwater quite significantly only on operating not to bring it up to city standards on infrastructure. That is a whole other costs that couldn't get addressed. As you all know, we are fundamentally behind on how the city meeting its profit. We know what we would call profit and loss or conceptualize. It. So really this outing just was would be doubling down on that. I would expect the numbers to be worse today than they were in 2023. >> Thank you for that part. Won't put you on the spot any any further? But hope that gives general public a sense of what I largest discussion point. That is any of the questions from council right now. All right. We'll open this up to the public. Remembers the public like to to comment. Fred, you have the floor. >> My life. Okay. Thank you. Good afternoon. Mayor members of City Council Santa Rosa is quite nice. But housing is a serious negative issue here.
City housing costs are contributing to a trend of recent ation. This goes against affirmatively furthering fair housing. Santa Rosa is ranked in the bottom half of U.S. Cities for affordability and as one of the worst places to rent or buy a first home. Do 2 high housing cost compared to income. Naacp sent a letter to the Council Re Council goals and all float and sure that the Shell Santa Rosa specific plan includes concrete unforcible, anti gentrification strategies that protects low-income residents, bipoc communities and seniors implemented with the same level of specificity, accountability and measurement as the plans economic growth actions. Plan area is majority Latino and majority disadvantaged community. The plan area has a host of negative socioeconomic indicators in play. Many vulnerable mobile home parks. The northern plan severely disadvantaged community and he's also an equity priority area and environmental Justice Community. Since the plan will reasonably cause gentrification and displacement. What to do with the vulnerable demographics needs. That needs to at least to be mentioned in the preferred alternative. I also submit that outreach can't be a majority vote process. Plan area disadvantage. Communities will likely be underrepresented. One of the council's jobs is to reduce disparities and promote
equitable outcomes. I suggest to direct staff to focus on keeping plan equity issues front and center. The council needs to bring to bear the equity values. The city says it has the underrepresented need your voice. The plans and displacement tras strategy calls for focused actions and targeted interventions. The council needs to emphasize that today across the Bay area of the uc Berkeley, Urban Displacement Project calls for bold and he displacement action. It's not unreasonable to ask the council to weigh in on equity values that protect the city's 40%. Low income residents and to now direct staff to focus on plan area, disadvantaged communities in and team displacement actions that have serious teeth. I'd also like to just make a comment on annexation discussion that I don't believe there's ever a time when people say that adding station doesn't cost too much. And so that will always be said. And if the Todd Creek annexation area on the east side is in next. Orleans, not that would be an example of lascaux cherry picking because those communities are continuous and that's but you can contact you. It is up for discussion, but I would beware of the cherry picking aspect of taking the gravy but not taking Moreland Avenue to thank you. Thank you, friend. Can. Good evening. Mayor staff councilmembers can McNabb came back rising representing property owners of the vacant land between Santa Rosa Avenue in Petaluma Hill Road. >> Just a start quickly in
response to Councilmember MacDonald's questions on the financial impacts, I would remind the council, I think most of you are on the council at the time. That is part of that 2023 discussion. We did submit an economic analysis to considered some of the fiscal impacts as well as the economic benefits. We looked at the annexation or the specific plan area in 3 different pieces. East side of our west side of Highway 101, the Santa Rosa Avenue corridor and the east side of 101, the vacant lands between Santa Rosa Avenue Petaluma Hill Road. And what that study showed was the greatest impact as you would probably expect would be the area west of 101, you have a lot of under improved infrastructure needs. You have very little development, potential to increase property tax and you have. And you have a cap on your property taxes. You have a largely built out area. That's, you know, limited in how much you can increase property taxes. Santa Rosa Avenue corridor informed about break-even. If I'm remembering the study correctly, you do have significant property tax and sales tax, even more significantly generation in that area. That area broke even the properties on the eastern edge of the specific plan area performed the best you have undeveloped land that will come in with new homes that will be assessed at the highest possible value. You all have development impact
fee revenue. You'll have brand new infrastructure largely paid by development that will burden the city at least in the initial years. Do remember the magnitude of differences other West Side was a loss. Central was break-even ishan and east was the best-performing. You have that study and I'd be happy to share it again. If there's any interest. With respect to the alternatives on these comments related to the Tide Creek area, a land use Our clients prefer of the 3 that are out there now. Alternative to it represents the best mix in our painting of residential densities. It's not as intense as alternative one but more intense. An alternative 3 for Parkland. We prefer the concepts that show to smaller parks in the north and southern portion of the Time Creek area. These parks, in our opinion, will be more accessible and usable to future residents of the community. I'm running out of time. The last make is we would advocate for the road extension depend the Hill Road View Avenue and not really is now if you offers across town connection >> thank you. Can are there other members of the public would like to speak on this item? And if so, let's use both podium as will start with this podium here. If you could, please alternate back and forth. Go ahead. >> When a thought of this number is close up, still aiming this. So there been a more important one of those in u n a on a moment interpret
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has yes. Candy interpreter providing. >> Interpretation in Spanish reason hand. Thank you, Claudia. Can you please move to the I'm going to have more and move you to the main Channel. 4 restating this comment in English. >> excuse interpreter. The interpreter would have to do a consecutive interpretation. She read a whole passage I would need access to what she read in order to do a site. Translation or something up that sort. I was not able to instruct the speaker to stop and let interpreter interpret it as we go along. How would you like to handle that? >> Okay. We'll have the speaker restate her comment in Spanish and we will ask how I what income it would you like her to pause so she can make the statement again? >> Yes, would. I would ask her that. Thank you. She won a spot of the Sun up winning ticket committee. But isn't that in just a moment, though, nothing was going to couple. You put forward. Comes up indeed. Get up to actually school show. He said that economy that would hold can Williams to the scandal cool. But I by getting ongoing book, what local a myth that Goes spend that >> Thanks to everyone for their patients want make sure that everyone has a chance to speak. Thank you. MADAM City Clerk. >> When us that in this. Didn't, you know, MISS Those subsea looming? Yes, so see them to them or lent. But that is an U.S.. >> My name is Khan Sheikhoun. Domingues in Miami. Moreland precedent for 13 years. >> Gettleman 7 acquittal. See in delicacy of use of inlet. Police assumed that black is busy fickle. There's sort of
federales. >> Elect to start recognize it to work. The has being taking place with the specific pick plan in the south of Santa Rosa. >> Unless that is something that the bus. But it's in U.S. More on this. Thankfully, the and if you've got or not, only that, the is. >> With victory alternatives, more land has identified as area of interest. >> as his political center open was only that said build is asked at the improv. >> Thank you for recognize what our community knows about a long time. >> Good morning on this. The c c in water level in this. The bill stansell signals the sick in noise. So if you see him visit this, but will see see that. Also not only that thing put other. >> We know that Moreland has been about waited in this process. We are told that there's not enough data to be considered. Moreland incorporated community. >> And there's been back lot gotten little the other like did in literacy. Then this. The most for that on that those. Look, maybe the most belittles the U.S.. >> Could advantage community are? The way should not full on the residence to show with data what we have to live through day by day. >> Life and that the impetus do left. The the embassy on, you know, this he would love is a lot of GOD that that's on And >> The lack of infrastructure lack of investment. The inequality that large. It's
real. >> Khan was that up a lot going on to the bottom in a mile most vocal. But they left that those so with the same Biden who's the feat that likes to seal on the North. >> Our community knows first hand that the lack data. It is real for us. And it effects U.S. Day by day. >> If the gun was given most enigmatic Inc most, you know what I'm most. Linda meant that Biden did. They it think it yet not give them Jamal. That. >> We continue to be left like a poor, not part of this plan, a place that we call our home. >> This is is get them in that board of I say yeah, this I left. >> The decisions that you take your more important for their more than just This area, it in here, this place. >> My name from we didn't cool Russia and its those little sis was again. Don't left. Go. It would have been employed as to what will happen in this process, including >> this baby with dissenting things. You're as big sample that he will single didn't. Good morning. I'm Melissa Get out but not us. >> We asked for it for you to be influential. And I. To take place in this process including laughable and not to be left out one more time you could assist with thank you. Thank you for everything. >> Thank you. Next podium. >> Noon to mayor and 2 council members. Thank you for this PRESIDENT For allowing us to speak and want to thank you for presentation that you've had. And and the outreach to the community. I my name is Irene Rosario. I'm a native of
Santa Rosa Island in more than area 40 plus years. And everything that we do is related to the city of Santa Rosa, shopping schools, interaction. I also sit Union School district as the board. PRESIDENT. So with that said, I want to start again saying thank for recognizing our our area has an interest. But I also want to say that it is important to recognize that we And a privilege community and that's not reflected in the report. It is reflected in the county report is reflected in your report. It's also reflected in the safe routes to school. So we're just concerned that it not being included. Affects our future possibilities of annexation. So please consider that when you're studying, whatever was presented to you today and I am part of the Moreland and they would action team and we do a lot of outreach to our community and there everybody that comes to our meeting is in the idea that their partisan Rosa and we deserve the that services. We're like island by ourselves and that carved out and you're going to the east side instead of the West Side is very, very concerning. So again, please consider our area for future. We are very predominately Latino community. So I want to thank you for again, the presentation and please consider us in near future annexation. And the live call report has to be changed. Thank you.
>> Thank u next speaker. >> Good afternoon. Mayor and council members. My name is normally you cage. I've lived on Moreland Avenue for 43 years. First, I want to express my appreciation for the recognition that the Moreland community was given in all 3 alternatives of the South. Santa Rosa specific plan. And I'm also appreciative that members of the neighborhood had the opportunity to participate in the process of identifying some of our greatest needs with the South's center is a specific plan. Meetings. Our neighborhood lies between highway 101 to the east and in the industrial park to the west were isolated from stores, restaurants and professional services. And although we now have the neighborhood park and access to the smart pathway for those of us who live south of West Rogue. Listen, Moreland walking to these public recreation areas is extremely dangerous. There are no sidewalks and deep drainage ditches run along both sides of the road. My husband walks with a cane which makes it even riskier for him. Cars routinely run the stop signs that Moreland and West Road Bliss. And I more than a few occasions, I've had to jump into a ditch to avoid a vehicle that came around the corner without stopping. I'm getting a little old for that kind of action. The public transit stops and Moreland south of Route Bliss are inaccessible to people with disabilities and pretty challenging to non disabled people as well do the to the lack of sidewalks and the hazardous ditches. There's no
safe place for a person to stand and wait for the bus. Much less a place to sit. There are no crosswalks at all on Moreland Avenue despite the fact that hundreds of children would need to cross the street to go to Andy's Park. I'm especially concerned that Laugh Co doesn't consider us a disadvantage. Unincorporated community, the issues I've described are unsafe and inequitable conditions that have persisted over decades. And they've actually worsened because of the greatly increased traffic. Then Moreland since the housing development of the early 90's and early late 90's and early 2, thousands. So please keep the needs of the Moreland neighborhood as a priority as this process continues. Thank you. Thank u next speaker. Don't Mayor and council members? My name is Esther levels. Sometimes it only of Lehman's. Resident of mourning. I lifted morning for 55 years. My 5 daughters were raised there. Oregon has always been left behind with rain. The water would come up to the last last tape Applied I had to wear boots to carry my kids out to the bus. Stop. After many years it was result. I want acknowledge the 3 plants they were presented at our morning meeting by your morning was included as a community of interest. Thanks for reading recognizing our community and the needs that exist in more morning has been
the forgotten child. Unfortunately, it took the death of a child and the little bits for the Kern County to start to see that the needs of our community. >> Our community have many needs fragile, safe streets, sidewalks, drainage, which will MISS 2 needs sidewalks instead of dishes that overflow across the road when it rains. Hopefully you the city of Santa Rosa. Welcome receive a new future for innovation. Thank >> Thank Stir next speaker. >> Can you hear me now? Good afternoon, Mayor Councilmembers and staff. My name is Page and I am a member of the Sonoma County tenants Union. We are a coalition of renters and manufactured homeowners, including residents of the specific plan area and throughout Sonoma County. And we organize for dignified. >> Affordable housing for all. >> I am here today because I'm a renter in the city of Santa Rosa and I am currently severely rent burdened, which means I'm paying more than 50% of my income to my rent. About one-third of the residents in the plan area. Are also severely rent burdened. It is extremely difficult. For folks like us to relocate. We just don't have a stash of cash to cover deposits. Take time off of work and the other costs of relocating. I have experienced to no fault evictions in the last 5 years. And in both it was for the economic improvement of my landlord.
And I had to bear the costs. Unfortunately, based on my own recent experiences. And the experiences of other union members. I can share that current protections in our region are not sufficient for keeping our neighbors and families stably housed here. The Sonoma County tenants Union supports policies that prevent the displacement of the vibrant, beautiful existing communities in the plan area. >> Thank you, page. Next, speaker. >> Good evening. >> Mayor council members, my name is having an abuse and I'm the executive director of health Equity, Racine, leading the implementation of Sonoma County's agenda for action, which focuses on. Focuses on Comey communities. Moses invested in all a Sonoma County. This includes our Moreland, neighbors. I want to start by thanking you for the work gone into the South. Santa Rosa specific plan So thank you for recognizing what our community has long known. That Moreland is a community with real needs that deserve attention and investment. At the same time, there's a parallel process happening to the local agency formation Commission. We're more land is being evaluated and that process is we're being told there is not enough data to consider Moreland a disadvantage. Unincorporated community. This raises a serious concern because burden should not fall on residents to prove to when we live every day. Lack of infrastructure, lack of investment and
longstanding inequities are realities. This committee knows firsthand. I am worried that gaps in data will be used to justify continue exclusion that we will remain on the margins. She asks if we are not fully part of the place we call home. Please use the lessons learned in the portrait of Sonoma County when his status or and communities were not statistically significant to be included and and data that informed policy when reality was that people collecting in conducting their research were not well equipped to engage with the communities and the realities of where they lived. Does does render these communities that we're not listen to or heard invisible. We don't want to repeat that again. So please listen and center Moreland, neighbors in the decisions that will affect their lives. The decisions made here matter beyond this room, they will influence what happens and other processes, including Glasgow. We are asking to be intentional to be proactive and to ensure that Moreland is not left behind again. Thank Thank u next speaker. Good afternoon, mayor and council members. I'm Kate, by the end, the housing policy analyst at Legal aid of Sonoma County. >> And I want to begin by first acknowledging the tremendous amount of work that has gone into preparing the South Santa Rosa specific plan. Including critically the community engagement around that s. I want to highlight today, the affordable housing and a displacement strategy, which is a really critical component of this plan. The end I displacement strategy outlines the current
affordability conditions in the area that identifies vulnerability to displacement in the plan area and identify specific policies and programs that are designed to preserve affordable housing, strengthen housing, stability, and reduce the risk of displacement as a result of this plan. I do want to highlight that this report identifies that there's a high risk vulnerability displacement pressures in the plan area. The plan areas we've heard 53% Latino and over a quarter, residents are immigrants. Many residents in this area face significant economic challenges, including lower incomes, higher poverty rates and higher numbers of rent burdened households also noting that mobile homes make up a 6th of all housing in the area plan, which is significantly more than the citywide average. The anti displacement strategy outlines policies and programs to ensure that the risks of displacement associated with the plan are properly mitigated and that existing communities are able to benefit from the specific plans vision for development and the investments in amenities and services and infrastructure and the plan area that are so long overdue. I would urge the council to consider the anti displacement strategy as integral to the goals of the specific plan, not separate from and is an organization legal aid of Sonoma County stands ready to partner with the city in any way that's helpful as you work to craft policies and implement programs to make that folks and the plan are able to stay in the plan area. Thank you. >> Thank you. Legal aid. Are
there any other members of the public who wish to comment? And I go ahead be ready? >> Mayor City Councilmembers. Hello. Good afternoon, everyone. Who is in the room? My name is and ideas and I am from Roseland. My grandfather. My grandparents lived off of a Barbara Drive for over 17 years. And I grew up in, I could say I grew up in more land and in the roads and neighborhoods. >> I wanted to start off by saying it's important to reach to the residents of Moreland. Many that live in the area. Often feel invisible. And these policies in these decisions often feel overlooked. So I just wanted to note that I've been to many of the conversations I've been to many of the workshops. I do want to say that there needs to be improvement of translation because the last meet of the workshop that I was present the Moreland meeting, the translation was not so great for those who are present in the room side just wanted to note that for our council members and for our city staff along with today's Farm Workers Awareness Week, Farm Workers Day and it's also agday and many of our Moreland residents are farm workers. And what I not familiar with our what I'm not really understanding is that many of them have expressed that they do not want more housing on the southwest area of town. I'm also a resident of the south at West area of town and if you are in and out of Moreland every day, you should know that if there is a fire evacuation or something critical that happens or
occurs. There's only 2 exits out of there. So there's Todd Road and Corby Avenue. And so if something were to happen, those where it's going to be completely, completely, completely filled with traffic's. I do want you guys to know that when you guys talk about housing and it would be really good for you guys to get in the contact with great in Labor Day center as well. Ok? And that concludes my comments. Thank you. I yield the rest of my time. >> Thank you, Anna. Dwayne, are you making a way to the podium? Yes, sir. Welcome. Thank you kindly, sir. >> Hello, my name is Dwayne it. I'm from Roseland. >> I've been following these types of activities ever since the Southwest area plan. >> Of 1993, 94. One of the difficulties is to get better, authentic community engagement. When doing anything like this, I attended some of the meetings. I basically have been following the situation for so long that I realize Santa Rosa is already overwhelmed. It cannot even take care of what it has within its city limits. Right now. Many roads highly damaged potholes everywhere. Terrible traffic. Many difficulties even following up on stuff that was funded decades ago, such as the Rosen Creek concept plan from 2004. So it's really important that everybody here today understand this is a really nice wish list that people are putting together to try to get
something positive for the folks that live down on Moreland. Many of them are my friends. When I was young, went to Laurence Cook Junior High with some of them. One of the dilemmas that we face right now is the economy is going to get worse. You have 2 ongoing wars right now perhaps more coming forward. You won't get federal monies word basically looking at a situation here today that you hope you might be able to achieve. We want to make sure and not give anyone false hope we need to make sure that this is something that can be attainable within our lifetime. The things that were promised in the Southwest area plan of 93 94 are just now coming forward in Roseland where there's intense build-up going on Hearn Avenue. There is new housing coming in and there are thousands more people living in an area where the infrastructure can't even take care of it. Now. So one of the things I want to make sure is everybody here understands. I'm very appreciative of city staff and all the council members, even a city attorney and the interim city manager, you're all doing a good job, but it's a Sisyphean task. If you folks to know what that is, that means we're rolling the ball up the hill and it keeps rolling back down and we never get this stuff done. So trying to take on Santa Rosa, South
Santa Rosa Avenue and the Moreland District. Bring it all into Santa Rosa. We'll just give you so you'll have so many more responsibilities that you can take care of. It's a difficult situation. I understand it's not on you. It's just on the nature of life. In a sense maybe in my lifetime will get the Rosalynn Creek concept plan done. We work so h# # # o# it. I'm hoping in the next 20 years. Thank you. >> Thank you to Wayne. Are there any other members of the public who wish to speak? Seeing none? We'll close public comment and bring it back to council for any final comments or direction to staff MR. Alvarez. >> First of all, thank To the last speakers couple of them of the speakers prior for the low dose of reality. What I tend of the meetings in Moreland, it was very it was made very clearly that the conversation was not about annexation. The conversation was about. Dreaming, dreaming, what senators will look like in the future. And for us to come up with a collective plan between the city of Santa Rosa and the county of Sonoma on how to collect achieve that dream. I understand that we ask questions that that really didn't pertain to. The conversation. Those being at today, which was which of the 3 which woes like by the community. Want be back from council or >> or interpreting what the community was saying. With that being said, though, the questions that were asked. By my colleagues, our very pertinent to the conversation to be had in the near future. Maybe 20 years. But the
reality is. We did it when we annex Rosen. Specifically, I use the court. We on the mall and the Place center. We're we did take away the greatest generation or generator of sales tax away from Orland and then said more than that, you don't generate enough taxes. This is my interpretation. There's my experience. I understand that as projects by developers that are initiated by the city that MAY come forward. I hope that we do not repeat the air of taking the best, leaving the rest. I believe someone take the Greeley and leave the potatoes, whatever the the example is. I think it's unjust service to them or the committee who have given so much. To be left again. Without the gym. So I think those that. I think it's the right way to do it. And it's just not the time for yet. And that's the reality. But when that time comes more as a whole is a beautiful place with beautiful people and should be respected. Thank you. Stronger as been >> Again, I thank you for presentation. And I think. I just want my just a couple of points. I think the but many of the speakers talked about in terms displacement. I think that's huge issue for the area, more land all around there. And that definitely has to be taken into consideration. I think somebody mentioned be. Issue of just having equity in mind when we approached it, these alternatives. I I when I look
at the alternatives, it seems to me that there should be a combination it's not just alternative one alternative to, but maybe a combination because good things in all 3. And just by the way, Moreland is everywhere. And I really appreciate that. I think that's important the only thing that I will say, lastly, about annexation and I only brought it be because it has been something that I think the community has wanted for a long, long time. I went through the Roseland One. You know, I would I sat on the advisory board and was there in 2017 as many of us were. And I know what that process is. And I know how long it took to get there. I remember that really clearly. So it is true. Councilmember Alvarez says. It MAY take a while, but whether it comes from perhaps a private developer and recognizing that Moreland is does qualify for this because it doesn't shouldn't be left out Orrick. It's initiated by I am really concerned that. None of this MAY come to fruition. If annexation doesn't happen eventually that that's my biggest concern. And I'm also concerned that if it doesn't come either from another area or us that they never will be annexed. That's another concern. I have at least in my lifetime. So so those are just concerns that I have because I know that the community needs it. It's you know, they need the services. I understand our financial constraints really well. And so maybe it can't happen today, but I think it's something that we have to keep in the forefront. And that's thank you. Thank you. MISS Fleming. Thank Most of my comments have already been said by council members
Alvarez about way lows. >> There MAY be this got covered and I missed it earlier. But one of the concerns I have about the data is that over-reliance on dated to define a dock concerns me in terms of when the data was last collective in during covid being a really difficult time to collect accurate data. And so to my mind. It if there are, if there is data collected in the 2025. In the in between the Census, I think that might be useful to look at. But I think that it's sort of common sense it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck. It probably is a duck. Even if we don't have the census data to prove that its a dock. So that to my mind is I would I'm fully in favor of us figuring out a way to get to annex saying this part of Santa Rosa. But it it has to be with Moreland. Can't be without without that part from from my sport. Thank you. Vice mayor Thank you. I'm not going to belabor the point it made I agree with a lot of my colleagues have already said. >> But 2. Get back to the study session direction I was leaning towards. Alternative based on what I've heard from the community of no more density in the Moreland area focusing towards the city Centre COUNCILMAN Ben Wheeler said that she'd I'd like to see it makes him very open to that. But I for this conversation offered of 2 is where Eileen and if there's some alterations with more than happy to hear. >> Thank you. And why understand what the study session is after hearing the comments from the community as well as our concerns around station station. To me, this
is like the forecast. And so I think that's why we're being cautious about what we it looks like we could be promising to community that's been waiting for us to have the next conversation. And so I also find that sometimes when we're doing planning, we're actually not looking too too far into the future because it's almost a what if scenario. But I think it's critical because it's been happening for so long that these conversations have been going on. So one of the things I do want to comment on. I'm not really sure why the county gets away with not investing in the current infrastructure of the people that live in the county and still are part of a county. So while Santa Rosa wants to make sure everybody has made whole, where's county's responsibility in making sure that they're safe streets, that there's proper grating, that there's infrastructure and in that area. And I think that has to be part of this conversation. If we can help advocate for the people because through an through all the things that we're talking about, it take so long. But they're currently dealing with issues and in my opinion, that needs to go back to the supervisors because that is their responsibility. And they have been shirking not for a long time. For more, I feel that to me if if that's something we're talking about with the county, they're not going to get off on $662,000 here in investment when they
have never invested in this community. And I don't mean ever we shouldn't say that. But to me, it's it's a it's a clear need for them. As far as displacements of the citizens that are there, I want to make sure that that's taken into consideration. I couldn't understand it from the presentation which one would had the least amount of displacement. But I think that those comments were concerning to hear from legal aid. So whatever we can do to work with legal aid if we're looking at mobile home parks you know, people who need that, I would be interested in making sure we we protect that as much as we can. If if if alternative to is the best way to do that, then I'm for alternative to. When I was looking at it, alternative one made the most sense to me because it focused on economic development and businesses. And so and I don't know if I'm reading it wrong, but I would say that there should be also an emphasis on that on the Santa Rosa Avenue corridor and the high-density area towards the city that's already sort of in place. If we can do that, maybe it does need to be a combo of those 2 different alternatives. I appreciate the presentation. And for you tolerating all of our comments and questions about the what if conversation that could happen in the near future. Thank you. Thank you. MISS Rogers. Thank you, Mayor first, thank you for the presentation and it is good to hear that are Lasko Representative. >> here's the needs that the community are saying that they
need rather we feel like this was the right time to do it or not. It's always the right time to let your leaders know what it is that your needs are. >> I'm with Councilmember Ben Layla's. When we talk about. >> I always use disorder. Cherry picking about from different different sections. I think I really like alternative one for the bike and pedestrian improvements in the improved connectivity for more land residents. I absolutely do not like increasing residential when the basic infrastructure is not even there that hasn't it seems counterproductive to me and what we're trying to accomplish. And I know that we would be working with the county but I think that we probably should make that pretty pretty clear that we're trying to improve what the neighborhoods have increased. The people that are there. And I do live in that area in we don't have the infrastructure. So we really have to look at existing infrastructure. Also. Improve the its existing infrastructure, improve the connectivity, improved, make improvements. And then we can come back and look at additional residential would be mine. But there's a U.S. Some things I like about all of Greenway connections in connectivity is always good. Cause that helps us get around the whole city and people don't have vehicles can access
different parts of the city. So >> really like that. And then concentrating on infill. Downtown. That would be my. >> Thank you. And gave a mean Conner, thank you so much for all your work and for your patience of our questions. Thank you to all the folks who came out for this item for all the residents of Moreland for development interests. This shows that this part of town are last large, underdeveloped part of Santa Rosa. This is gonna be a topic of conversation for decades to come and what you can hear think on council was agreement that we can't do is let this sprawl and we can't let it negatively affect the communities where there that we've got to do this in a thoughtful way and staff and the community input to date. He's given us 3 really interesting options. I wish that I was more of urban planner to get back to the question hand. Not comfortable in this space. What I will say is that we've got good things going on in downtown Santa Rosa. You can feel the momentum there and you can see the momentum in Rohnert Park as well. And so for the first time in Sonoma County, you've got these 2 genuine urban that are kind of starting develop in tandem. And you've got this long stretch of semi develop space residential space in between. And it just seems the fact that if we can encourage those 2 urban polls at either end of that and keep keep the sprawl from happening in the middle, read her. You've heard talk about housing. The can't be supported by infrastructure, commercial space. It is only loosely tied to the downtown cores. I guess my only half-formed thought is that to the extent that we can look at what's happening in
Rohnert Park as a way to anchor that southern end of Saint Rose Avenue because presumably 30 years from now in 40 years from now, we're going to be even more tightly entwined with that neighborhood. And so we might as well take it into consideration. Now. So that's the only incident Half-formed thought that I can add to the conversation. Otherwise they the 3 options are all creative and all all make Friday. A nice future for that for this area. And it's going to be interesting to see over the next few months. What other community input we get. And I think I speak for council what I say that we're looking forward this fall to seeing what comes back with the ied with the next generation of this plan. And there's nothing else. We will move on to our next item hopes MISTER Alvarez, thank you, Mayor Crippen for all. But one of the comments made during workshops. >> Was the the ability to also. Describe a hybrid. And so I just want to throw it out there that it wasn't just 3 options is also culmination of these 3 options as the conversation was very free-flowing. Just want to remind the folks out there who do participate in the conversations that you're not just about 2, 3, but just. >> Thank you, Mayor. I just want to add to tie the conversation up together. We obviously do realize that bringing 3 options starts the conversation and there's the natural tendency to create a hybrid of the 3. So thank you providing the feedback. I think we did hear some really solid points on some of the core issues that will help us move forward. Obviously density the intermix of
commercial, the connectivity, the greenspace. Those are all really important. High-level planning issues to move this process forward as one of the things that I think as our neighbors start growing, understanding the connectivity to our neighbors, understanding how we potentially don't put commercial that competes with our neighbors. How we do that. When with Rohnert Park building out, I think is a really important point. So we will tie all this together. At the end of the day, we do have to work towards the preferred alternative, but obviously understanding that's a process that takes in community feedback. It's really difficult. I've not done planning my entire career. So I leaned heavily on these folks here. And it is a very unique environment to try to get to a final determination when it's so important to the community. So we will understand that will tie this together move the project forward. Thank you all. Thanks for the great work. >> All right. With that when we're on to our next item item, report, if any on our study in closed session, City attorney. >> Mayor, my apologies. Mayor, we were going free state. The announcement of the interpretation service is available online today for the room. Thank you for reminding MADAM City clerk. Let's do that. Thank you, Lauren. Now turn it over to you. Thank you, Tina. >> Could I have the interpreters of both languages currently not interpreting raise their hands. Can move you over. Thank you so much. I'd like to ask the interpreters currently on the Spanish and Mandarin channels took offense interpretation continue interpretation of the meeting for those just joining the meeting, live interpretation in Spanish and
Mandarin is available. And members of the public or staff wishing to listen in Spanish or Mandarin can join those channels by clicking on the interpretation icon. In Zoom toolbar, it looks like a globe. If you're on your cell phone or tablet locate the 3 dots, top them lately and put a check mark on your preferred language. Click done to activate in the beginning. Interpretation, won't you join your preferred channel? We recommend that you shut off the main audio. So you only hear either the Spanish or the Mandarin interpretation. Spanish interpreter, it's a which you please restate this in Spanish. And then Willis will restate in Mandarin. Witnessed at this letter it needed for And she wanted that and is speculative. >> But didn't that up with that with a nurse to said. Peak in the leak on another note that at q given of it in the party that I it, I have assumed e it does this have take label work of the if it intends to Custer Spanish or despite known. She this is that what they live for. In do operate. That location just put discussed 7 up at video to video to the detention pond assume can't take it in to visit them to speak out, left field in to put the few what took people in. It doesn't he didn't do my defend and Spanish voice. But, you no certainty that peak and on, if you know, he said, but I can be if he's gonna that protection whenever to stay that ye. Mystic them most put them the opening keypad. We bought whole way go but up with quick And that meant that in a span, Jan and get asked,
yes. >> Because as you before you will not play. It can go on us. And so they couldn't put want to thank It was a political tone was again, going see he See you for up I need to point to. Could you MISS Trace of the child will not taking the time to get know some units do. You can in that show. Now again tune in to patients on Monday. She'll be good 42 when he so too was You see one. You're saying that detention of creations any she other n that will be a challenge in you that the only team do the things you can do from to point b end, the Holmen supply you with a friend. You could that. That didn't keep says of the 5 year tissue. Thank you so much. >> One more comment, for the interpreters. Can you please also state that there are language headsets in council chamber for Spanish and Mandarin and assisted hearing and they are available at the top of the well at the top of the chamber with the administrative assistant near the door. Cedric, Go ahead. >> See, it could be at that mean that yet kitten that come out of the know to this is to 90% this see that need it. But that's going to spend on. I know the finish bunny So what about somebody with a lot coming out the Vatican address how the first descent, the date do not many states. Sta. Well, that's Houston, Dennis at the Pulse. Houston is the sand. But Putin government that pulled equals en Espanol. Needed. But decay labor saying the fuel can stick with the battle is pitting must get but followed in this bus. You eat.
But in this place, the kind of that ended. But they went to me that fish and different that you stick with the public. Just that's yes. But to you. >> Thank you. Really >> the time as we will show this is a fight, a final mission get it from a funny that you that just do same create and the pound bn, amended the home them that will be them teach you Thank you. Back to Mayor. Thank you. MADAM City Clerk, thank you to our translators this evening. >> All right. With that, we'll move on to item 6 report if any on study and closed Sessions. MADAM City, attorney, thank you, MR. There's no reportable action taken in closed session today. We just completed a study session regarding South Santa Rosa specific plan like land use and circulation alternatives. >> And that's the end of my report. Wonderful. Thank you very much. All right. With that, let's move on to item 7.1. Our proclamation for Women's History Month as MacDonald. >> Thank you, Mayor. It's my honor to this proclamation today, whereas the theme for Women's History Month leading the change, women shaping the sustainable future, calls upon us to confront the wire. The range of overlapping global challenges, including climate change, economic and security, health care disparities and threats to Democratic participation. And whereas the story of women throughout America and in Sonoma County is a story of women of all ages races and cultural backgrounds who the campaigns for equity and civil rights,
profession on educational opportunities founded entirely new enterprises and contributed significantly. The arts sciences and humanistic causes and whereas women's history Month provides the opportunity for communities in schools. To expand appreciation for the diverse contributions of women who lead entered leading sustainability efforts across environmental economic educational and social justice movements and empower action towards sustainability. And whereas Women's History Month highlights how these challenges are intertwined and how when and particularly from marginalized communities such as in parts of Sonoma County, often experience impact most acutely now, therefore, MAY be resolved. That marks tap mayor of the city of Santa Rosa on behalf of the entire city council in recognition of the significant role played by women in leading the charge towards lasting sustainable solutions to these complex challenges do hereby proclaim the month of MARCH 2026. To be Women's History Month. Again. Thank you all for being here. And I believe we have Melanie Noni Jones, Carter of scene, the Sonoma County Commission on the status of women here. >> MR. Jones, Carter, you there you are. Either either party was fine. Melanie. Thank you, Melanie. Welcome. The floor is yours. >> Thank you very much for the proclamation. Acknowledging Women's History Month. The commission with started 5, a board of supervisors to
provide support for women and girls in Sonoma County this past year. Our commission has presented 3 panels one on homelessness, one on immigration and mental health and our own Councilmember Rogers Place on that last pencil can do. Our next panel is going to be MARCH. I'm sorry. APRIL 9th and we encourage you all to. Watched by zoom or in person again, thank you very much for the support. >> Melanie, thank you. And thank you. Thanks to the other commissioners as well for for all of your work. >> With that, we'll open up to public comment on this item. Anybody like to comment on this proclamation? Seeing none. We'll close public comment. And Melanie and any other members of the commission are interested. Community members want photo down up to the front. >> Thank you again, Melanie. And with that on to item 7.2, our proclamation for American Red Cross Month. The Circle k thank you. >> Whereas in MARCH we recognize American Red Cross Month by honoring her neighbors who make its humanitarian mission possible in Santa Rosa. Every day there are acts of kindness, change lives, bring relief, comfort and hope would help cannot wait. And whereas this compassionate spirit runs deep in our community just as it has since the inception of the American Red Cross 145 years ago. And whereas today, those that serve with the Northern
California coastal region of the American Red Cross here in Sonoma County light the way during emergencies by delivering shelter, food and comfort after disasters providing a safe life, saving blood supply for patients facing conditions like cancer treatments, childbirth complications in traumatic injuries, assisting military members, veterans and their families 24 7 global support. Or empowering individuals with skills like first aid cpr to save lives and whereas these collective efforts are a powerful reminder. That the strength of our community lies in our shared commitment to one another. As we marked Red Cross month, let's celebrate our local heroes and resolve to continue lifting each other up. So no one faces an emergency loan now, therefore made the result of the marks tapped mayor of the city of Santa Rosa on behalf of the entire city council and recognition of our community do hereby proclaim MARCH 2026. To be American Red Cross Month. And we have a couple of Red Cross members here to accept the proclamation and floor is yours. >> Thanks very much. I want to thank the council for the proclamation. We appreciate it very much. We appreciate the close relationship that we've had really council over many years that Red Cross has been here in Sonoma County. I want also congratulate vice mayor key elevate himself from the unofficial mayor of Coffey Park to the official vice mayor of Santa Rosa. We worked with Greg ever since. I mean, with Jeff ever since the Tubbs Fire, which is why I got involved with the Red Cross in the first place. And we appreciate so much. His work and the work of a Longview in helping keep the community safe. Red Cross work 2
different fields. We work in blue sky territory in the gray sky. Gray sky is those areas where we have disasters that we have to respond to most recently of months ago, Red was tested by the National Red to see how our local Red Cross is able to respond to a disaster. There was a practice event at Findlay Center in Santa Rosa where our disaster response gathered. We were expected achieve a score minimally of 60% meeting. All the criteria in that chest. We met the criteria with 95%. We are ready to respond to disasters in Charlotte County, but we also do blue sky work, which is making people prepared in many different ways. I do programs in k 2 education where we teach kids how to be ready for home fires. I also lead a program to install smoke alarms in the homes of moderate to low income folks who cannot otherwise afford do that free service. I want introduce to other members of the Red Cross team. We have one of only 2. >> High school Red Cross clubs in the North Bay. And Rosie is the PRESIDENT Of the Santa Rosa High School. Red Cross cool. >> Good evening, everyone. I'm and I know I'm a senior at Santa Rosa High School and PRESIDENT Of Santa Rosa, a Red Cross club. Ensure the American Red Cross has done great things. Our club has hosted 2 blood drives during the year of 24. And 26. So, you know, representing great things. And we've also
installed smoke alarms around the Roseland area. We've hosted front fundraisers with punch again. And we're hoping to do many more things. And thank you so much for your time. Thank you. >> We also like to do getting signal who's volunteer to do a lot of work with disaster action team and services to armed forces. >> Hello, my name Denis segment. I've been Red Cross for probably 3 to 4 years. I do with you what that was disaster action team. Whenever somebody has a firefighter display from the home, we show up and try to pick them back up and going back on their feet and can be by money or buy whole bunch of different things that help them get back on their feet. I also the Seth, I'm not below Terry, never been in service, but we still help out with the military. If you if your sound or phone number goes off into another kind forget to tell the folks where I'm going or they don't know where they're going. Red Cross is on every single base and we accept. And Richard, we find that person most likely same thing, a letter to them. We can get that out there for our veterans, our current people to be a we can help them get through the services help them get the help they need. And then also I Seth, that emergency shelter, which is what Andy was talking about. Thunderball where will go shelter up and running very quickly to help out people. And with me is pretty much me my wife and my step, dad, my mom and my aunt all doing Red Cross top. It's a family affair pretty much. And that's about it. >> Excellent. All right. Andy, Rosie and Andy, thank you for joining us. Wanted to a photo with you in in a moment before that, ready, go to public
comment. Are there any members of the public that would like to say nice things about the Red Cross which is help out our community so many times in recent years. In. There we go. That's that. That settles it. Alright, we'll close public comment again. Andy Rose and Danny, if you could, if you could come down front, will to Florida. Thank you again to our Red Cross team. And with that, we'll move on to item 8.1, an update on our new community engagement tool. And I believe Misty, who was just volunteers are photographer, is back on stage. Thank you. >> Thank you, mayor. It's good to be here. Good afternoon. Mayor vice mayor and council members misty would communications and intergovernmental relations officer. Today. I'm pleased to announce a new community engagement campaign called. Let's Talk Santa Rosa. This is our citywide effort to better understand our community's priorities. As we begin planning for the 2026 city budget. >> you can lean in just a little Yeah, might doesn't pick up very well. Okay. That's a little better. You pull a closer is whatever is easiest, not a problem. All right. >> The city is committed to doing a better job protecting and maintaining our quality of life and community and communicating more effectively with the people that we serve to ensure Santa Rosa can continue to grow as a safe, clean and beautiful place to live and to work. Earlier this year, the city conducted a resident survey to better understand what matters most to our community members. Some of the key priorities identified in include maintaining 9-1-1, emergency medical and fire response services. Preventing streets from deteriorating, fixing streets and repairing
potholes. Maintaining 9-1-1, police response times and police response to violent crimes. Keeping public places including recreation centers and infrastructures, such as sidewalks, medians and landscaping safe maintained and clean for everyone. And finally maintaining fire protection services and wildfire prevention and preparedness programs. As we continue this important conversation, we invite every resident and business owner to participate in our online community survey, which will be available tomorrow evening at sr City Dot org. Slash talk. That's sr city dot org slash t a l k. Their survey is bilingual in English and in Spanish and community members were will also be able to find the initial residents survey on that Web page. City staff are also available to speak of community groups such as neighborhood associations, business groups are service clubs about this initiative. The budget planning process and to collect feedback as well. Interested groups can contact us at feedback at sr City Dot org or by phone at 707, 5, 4, 3, 4, 7, 0, 1, We truly welcome every opportunity to listen and to engage. And we encourage everyone to participate in the survey and share their priorities. And with that, I'm available for any questions that the council MAY have. Thank you. >> This is an important one. Misty, thank you. Let's talk Santa Rosa. Questions from from the All right. You just you just stated at all. Ask a few questions you just stated. How long is that serving to be available? >> It is open-ended at the moment while we continue
collect feedback. Yeah. >> ok, am I correct in thinking that we want that feedback sooner rather than later? You are correct. MISTER Mayor, we hope that everybody jumps on it tomorrow evening is when it opens and we'd like to hear from as many people as possible. >> As quickly as possible, sometimes, you know, we got busy and we forget. And so I would recommend for anybody who's interested to keep their eyes on social media and the Web site tomorrow evening so they can participate. >> And and tell me again, we want that feedback because we're trying to identify the top priorities for city residents. Where's where we should be spending our time and our money. Is that right? >> That's exactly right. So as we go through the budget planning process, those top 5 priorities that I listed were already identified. But we want to make sure that we branch out to the entire community and give everybody a chance to weigh in and share their priorities as we go through the budget planning process kind of start that process here pretty quickly. >> All right. And this is kind of bearing the lead there. Alright, pay attention to this read about this in the press Democrat going to be hearing more about this for months because we're starting our budget to our budget conversations this year while they big Ben started. But you're going to actually going to start hearing more about them. And let's talk. Santa Rosa is going to play in those budget discussions. So pay attention. You read about it more in the pd. And if you can go online to take the survey. Misty, thank you very much. You're welcome. Thank you for your time. I actually sit there cause I forgot to public comment. I would love to have
public comment on this item. Would any members of the public like to talk about? Let's talk Santa Rosa. Expected as much. Alright, Dwayne, Thank you to Wayne a car think you the floor is yours. >> Hello, my name is doing to win. I want to thank you for this effort. I especially want to thank MISS Wood's for reaching out and doing this new survey. Let's talk Santa Rosa. This can be a good thing. Especially if you are the ones that are going to welcome every person and as good as many comments as possible. And then actually try to. She lives at the information that will be the most helpful. To give the goals done that the community decides. Often. What happens is. A select group, perhaps business people or well connected. People are able to influence the public policy decision-making process better. And it comes down to what you folks down there decide is best for us rather than us. The community giving you the ideas are what are best for us. So I know from the experience is over in Roseland. We don't really get good, authentic community engagement yet. We're hoping, though, that this could be the stuff that brings it forward. And I say that because we had some employees that worked on the Santa Rosa General plan. They came over and met with the sun rose on one time and told us, oh, yeah, we're going to get those ideas in there. And then we didn't see them and those employees also left one went to court air one went to Richmond and our ideas are
just somewhere else. But I know because we've got a city council member that represents Rose and we got one that represents the city. Those 2 folks could bring the voices for word of the community. And I know MISS Rogers do when she was the mayor mentioned got the West side in there. So thank you so much for doing this. Woods, please don't forget us. Did you know that she actually when she was its numb state University worked on a project about Roseland. How many folks would know that? I know that because I've been around the block a couple of times. Thank you, Kylie. Let's make sure the block is really nice for the entire city. By now. Thank you for the son of a state park, Mr. De Are there any other members of the public would like to speak? >> The floor is yours. Thank you. >> How do I exactly how do we exactly participate in this last? Let's talk Santa Rosa. >> You have a Web address here. How do we contact? Let's talk Santa Rosa. >> As was discussed, it is online city website. Parts ms ms would preferred handle >> If I'm a it'll be available tomorrow online at sr City Dot Slash talk. There we go. Thank you. All right. Thank you very much. Are there any other members of the public would like to comment on this item? Alright, we'll close public comment and move on to item number 9. Our city manager and city attorneys reports MADAM City manager, anything for you this evening. >> They can stay in the interest of time. I will defer back to you. Thank you very much. MADAM City, Attorney.
Thank you, MR. Mayor Councilmembers, I do have my litigation report for the month there. It was one settlement previously approved by council in closed session that was finalized in the month of FEBRUARY. The new chief versus county of Sonoma at all in this case, a complaint for declaratory relief and injunctive relief was filed in federal court by homeless action and several unhoused individuals. This case was brought against the city of Santa Rosa and Sonoma County related to the counties. 2018 clearance of a homeless encampment within city limits. Plaintiffs alleged multiple causes of action, one cruel and unusual punishment under the U.S. And California constitutions. To unreasonable seizure under the U.S. And California constitutions. 3 state created danger under the U.S. And California constitutions for disability discrimination under various federal and state statutes and 5 denial reasonable accommodation under a federal statute. Several of the plaintiffs dismiss their claims once they received housing last month. The 2 remaining plaintiffs settled with the city. The settlement includes no monetary payment by the city. Plaintiffs released all claims against the city and waived any right to seek their attorneys fees and costs from the city. In exchange, the city agreed to make written an administrative policy updates related to how it handles removal of personal
property of unhoused individuals. Otherwise our litigation load remains constant with 32 current current litigation matters. Their trial dates assigned to approximately 30% of the trial court level matters. We currently have 4 cases on appeal following rulings in favor of the city at the trial court level. We continue to try as always to resolve smaller cases at little or no cost to the city. And with that, that's the end of my report. Thank you. MADAM Turning. Before we go to public comment, I know we're going to full house tonight and welcome to all of our friends from Skyhawk and elsewhere. >> if >> you can take a seat, please do if you're going to stand, you need to be against the wall and you can't be blocking the walkways. >> We did turn on the speakers outside. So if you prefer to stand outside, you'll still be able to listen to what's taking place in here. But if you're in chamber, please either year, take a seat or be back against the wall, not blocking the aisles and sound does carry here. So if you could, if you could stay as quiet as possible, I it does echo down to the front. All right. With that, are there any members of the public that would like to make comment on the city attorney's MR. Farron good for you. Go ahead. Is this 1, 2, 3, 0, k. >> have 7 members of council. I want to indicated what the city attorney just mention is no little thing for 8 years. The city of Santa Rosa and the county of Sonoma and Manatee now butterfly and homeless
action have been trying to figure out a better way of serving homeless. It's been exhausting. You spent a lot of money on attorneys and so is the county. And so the settlement announcement that she just made is a big deal to the community. We now have a settlement that indicates what each of us should be doing in the next year to 3 years, homeless action. And he I add have placed the settlement terms power point on he but dot org. So if anybody wants to see exactly what we're all supposed to do, ag a pa dot org is the place to go. It also be on homeless Action's website next week. Now, why am I saying this? Well, we would like to invite you now that this is over to be full partners in trying to figure out a better way for helping homeless. That includes we hope you are reversal of a long-standing policy that would not let us put Porta potties sanitary support to those encampments require it. We also would like to deal with you and a lot of other ways in a proactive, positive way and not be hindered by a lawsuit which just ended. Thank you very much. Thank you, Gregory. Are there any any members, the public other members of public would like to speak, MR. Do it. >> away from the clock because that's most important. >> Hello, my name is doing to
it. I'm from a volunteer long Rosalynn Creek. And unfortunately some of the less well off residents of our city actually live next to the creek. On the creek banks. When the rain comes, they get washed away. Some things get washed away. What was just said by the previous speaker would be really helpful. Some porta potties near these kinds of encampments. Right now, the dedication and other human waste goes right into the creek and right out to the Santa Rosa. These are the types of things that we don't think about. Sometimes. But when you're a volunteer, you see it. I see it 2 or 3 times a week and it's heartbreaking. I don't really want to tell somebody, hey, you shouldn't be down there when there's nowhere else to go when they're living under a bridge. This is just really something that we could all work together, everybody that's here tonight could figure out a way to be better helpful to these who are less fortunate than ourselves. Apparently there was a guy, a French guy, decades old centuries ago. His name was Valtteri City. Even the ridge can live under the bridge, but nobody should have to live under the bridge. And if they are at least let's give them some sort of facilities. At their farm. We have a Bexar Farm Porta p# # # # . We could do a Porta p# # # # over by which called Rosen accelerated Million Middle School and Rosen Creek Elementary School. We've got to get something going on because this is not the way people should be living. Thank you kindly for your time. Thank you, MR. It. Are there any other members of the
public would like to speak on this item? >> Seeing none. We'll close public comment. And thank you again for all the work of a new city attorney. That was an important settlement. Indeed. I just want to give thanks to the city attorney's office. This has been a long lift over many years. It is correct that this was pending for 8 years. And we have had staff that are no longer with our office working on This was a big left. And I just want congratulate the whole team. >> Thank you, indeed. Thank you. All right. With that on to item 10 statements of abstention or recusal by counsel Donald. >> Thank you, Mayor. >> I I will be recusing from item 13.1 due to a personal relationship and from item 16.1 based on the advice from the city attorney, I'm recusing on item. 6 teens might want to comply with the fair process requirements reply under state law when as in this case here, the council is considering an appeal from the Planning Commission's decision on project and is acting as a judge rather than a policy maker. I met with the folks at filed an appeal in the past and of late regarding this project. And because of the nature of those conversations, I'll be following the advice of the city attorney. Thank you. MISS MacDonald. Vice Mayor. >> Be recusing from item 13.5 because of a business relationship. Thank Seeing no other statements abstention We will move on then to mayor and Councilmembers reports. Are there any reports this evening? Rodgers? You can kick it off. Sorry. I'll take up
the city manager's time. >> MARCH 14th, I was able to participate She ready even as a panelist in attended that every tree in Women's Day, a MARCH. 21st, I was a panelist for the screening of Balance, which is the Perry Menopause Journey. And so thank you to Darcy in. So we and the wonderful sponsors that put on the event. I was incredibly honored to have joined a panel with the creators of the Docu Series Balance and 3 wonderful, very knowledgeable health care providers this past Saturday for the screening, a balance. The panelists to start the conversation about Perry, menopause and move it from a silent struggle that 100% of women face when they reach that age >> to a priority for our our community because a lot of face Perry, menopause and in silence. Saturday was powerful. And although I panelists, I left more informed about how to show up for not only myself but other women in the community and their families and on MARCH 23rd which was yesterday I was able to to our our materials lab, the lab school is to ensure the city's infrastructure is built to last while remaining as cost effective as possible. The lab provides quality control for the city's infrastructure, focusing on asphalt, aggregate soil and concrete testing this year alone today, although construction season has not even fully started, the lab
has already performed 211 test building on the 1739 test completed in 2025. And 7,711 tests over the past 3 years by maintaining an in-house lab. The city avoids high cost of outsourcing which typically exceeds $200 per hour with a 2 hour minimum per test. So the has the ability to provide same day services which prevent construction delays. And we have a lot of construction going on in this city. Mayor. And most importantly, the lab testing extends the life of the city pavement by about 25% effectively saving 25% of the pavement budget. I would like to think the small but mighty team at lab that To preserve the materials and make sure that we have the right materials being placed in our city. Your passion and dedication to our city and the safety of our residents is very much appreciated. So thank you for your time and hosting me yesterday. And that concludes my report. Thank you, MR. Rogers make MR. Donald. Thank you, mayor. Just a couple of things I'd like to congratulate the employees who got the service awards. >> For their service to city for anywhere from 5 years, 10, 15, 2025 years I was able to attend that event. I just want to say thank you for your service to the community to all of our employees is not just and that serves the communities but their families as well there. 24 7 and so congratulations to all that
received that. And I I want Caroline, been way los be able to report out on another event we want to but come back for just a small comment after that. Thanks. As Ben Willows. Thank you, Mayor and thank Thank you. Councilmember MacDonald. >> Just really quickly, wanted to mention that I I Councilmember Rogers advice and attended Arbor Day on MARCH 14th at the Family Center. And just to say I was it was way out of my comfort zone. I chill everything. So I I was really hesitant. But I went anyway and really enjoyed it. And I just want to give a shout out to our staff, the park staff actually director Hennessy help me plant. Actually, he did most of the work >> Help me plan a tree. It was wonderful. It was really great to see all the young people that came out. >> To also plant trees over at Findlay and just wanted to thank staff for all their work in all their expertise. Really, really appreciate it. Also went to service awards for our employees and that's we don't get too many opportunities to thank our employees for the work that they do or the time that they stay with the city. And I just wanted to give a shout out to all those employees as well. >> Thank you. Commitments was Vice Mayor. Thank you. Just one quick update from me on the 12th while on a business trip. >> For work in Tampa had the opportunity to meet up with the United Soccer league that in Tampa in their headquarters. See their operations me with their staff. It's quite the impressive operation. >> The oversee all levels of
their own league. >> And all the teams in those levels and it is quite thing to see and also found out why was there that they are planning on expanding and moving. Congratulations to them and their continued success. And I look forward to bringing Risen Rosa. Thank you. I don't all go through a few items as quickly as I I last week I was actually in Washington, D.C., behalf of the city. >> And among other items there is out there for 3 days. I had the chance to be in in a meeting with provider. MAY other mayors with Tom Homan. The borders are that you see on tv. And so along with other mayors, including staff for from the state of Minnesota, we went back and forth with MR. Hohman about immigration policy and immigration response and suffice it to say that if there were they were very direct statements made on both sides I won't go into detail here. But suffice it to say to MISTER Hoehmann got an earful came back in kind. It was interesting to to be part of that face to face. That obviously has relevance for an item on our agenda later this evening as we consider an ordinance pertaining to immigration enforcement as well. When I was out there, we did some lobbying for a 10 million Dollar Grant. Department of Transportation has allocated for the city but not yet paid. We needed to buy new buses so we can improve our bus lines. So again, some blood conversations with the department, transportation and hopefully that yields fund for the city eventually. And then there was that they were having a litany of committee meetings this last week. I mentioned them very briefly for mayors and Councilmembers Association. This is the Association of all 9 Sonoma
County cities. We had a legislative update from Sacramento. I gave us a list of the bills will be affecting Santa Rosa all the cities or Santa Rosa Sonoma County then as well. We had a board meeting where we met with the secure Families Collaborative, which is, of course, is a local nonprofit that's doing great work to support immigrant communities. Again, some blunt discussion regarding the effective policy, effective immigration enforcement policy on Santa Rosa and on Sonoma County. And then also for those of you who live in the unincorporated areas, we had a discussion about animal control policies, which you can read about the press Democrat. The Santa Rosa Plain groundwater sustainability agency and the 0 Waste Board. Both had budget discussions this week. I will. I will leave it there. The employees Service awards haven't mentioned. I would just add my thanks to all of our staff. We have great staff here in the city of Santa Rosa. So again, when you read the articles in the press Democrat about how about mean, how we are addressing our budget challenges and you want to work through the city is doing know that we are unanimous here on up front for how much we respect the work that our staff, our staff do. We've got we've got superstars here. Finally, I will. I will end with this. A very important item this weekend. We have the California Artisan Cheese Festival at the fairgrounds. I mention this because I'm a native Wisconsinite. We drew more than 1000 people to the fairgrounds. We've packed out that main that main building with people here to taste the
California artisanal cheese. Now Wisconsin should have a seat at the table as well. I've got family was name from Wisconsin tonight. I want to make that clear. But nevertheless, it was a at the fair and was great to have cheese as well as wine celebrated in county. So thank you very much for the Californian Artisan Cheese Guild for organizing that. And with that, I'll conclude my report. Are there members of the public that would like to make comment on any of the mayor and Councilmembers reports? You've heard this evening. I will. I will take that as so we will close public comment on that item. And when we will actually the time is 5 o'clock. >> We're going to rearrange the order of our agenda little bit. We're going first go to our public comment on non agenda matters. So this is the time for the pub for members of the public who wish to comment on items not listed on the agenda. We're not talking Pura Vita or any of the other items we will do that public comment and then we will go to our public hearing for the evening, which I know that many of you are here to our here to participate in. So right now we're going to public comment on non agenda matters. Gregory, you have the floor. >> 15 seconds. I think the council should watch today's Board of supervisors meeting in particularly item number 40 Niner. 47 the committee, the report of the annual report of the committee was delivered to the board and the conversation at the board level about what to do next was extremely instructive. And all of you should listen to it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Gregory. Are there other members of the public who would like to comment on items not listed on the agenda, MR. Do it? Yes,
sir. I submitted a card. My name is doing wit. I'm from Roseland. I hope that everybody here today will get a chance to look at the press. Democrat newspaper we're on the front page. There's a story about an 85 year-old Army veteran who faces homelessness. The reason why is and he's had for 54 years. He and his disabled son living there MAY be effected due to some financial misunderstandings is the best way to put it. If you've heard of reverse mortgages his wife had a stroke. He thought he'd do reverse mortgage, get some funding to be able to keep his wife there at home with him and live out her life, which she did and the home they've had for 54 years. So I bring this up because homelessness is not just some young folks that aren't getting things together. This could happen to any of us. There's a saying there, but for the grace of GOD go, I we need to keep that in mind. So go read the article and then think about the veterans, the people that are facing some difficulties. And then also look at the news that shows right now United States of America is in 2 undeclared wars. One Latin America Venezuela, one in the Middle East yet Iran which could spread to many other nations and they're talking of starting a 3rd one. Over in Cuba where we've been before. So veterans, they don't get a choice. They basically going
do what they're ordered to do. And then when they come home, they hope they'll be. Given some recognition be on. Thanks that they'll get the benefits they promised and that they'll be able to have a place to live a place to be and American for the rest of their lives safe and sound because they defend the democracy that you have all these people here today because they want to participate in our government and that only way that can keep working is if we make sure we have a Democratic nation, we make sure that we follow up on what we promised, those veterans who are willing to die for our country. With this. There are currently homeless veterans right here in Santa Rosa that I know one of the barn, one of shed. They served during Vietnam. So think about perhaps helping them. Also. It's the kind of thing where you don't really expect it until somebody, you know, is in that situation so desperate and it can happen. Real easy to any of us here today in this room. I thank you for the blessing of having free speech in my country and remember what makes it that way and why we haven't. Thank you. Thank you, MR. Do it for Harder hopes. Let's hold laws, folks. Other other members of the public who wish to speak, please, sir. Go ahead. >> It's just too much off here. >> Hello, good evening. You hear We can. It does.
>> something. >> So my name is Jason Sweeney. I live here in Santa Rosa and I just kind of felt the need to remind everyone. That we are obviously the u I heard some comments earlier about reminding us that we're in war there's still a genocide happening in Gaza with our public tax dollars. I just want to share it with you. The kind floored me this morning is a news item from this morning. I'm just going to read it to you in Gaza, local and international media outlets report Israeli forces tortured a Palestinian toddler to coerce a confession from his father. According to reports from Palestine tv Al Jazeera and others, the child's father was detained near the Alma Ghazi refugee camp on Saturday after he came under fire from Israeli soldiers. He was forced to approach an Israeli checkpoint where he was separated from his 18 month old son stripped naked and forced to watch as soldiers use a cigarette to burn. One of the toddlers legs while using a nail to puncture the other. This comes as a new report published by a un expert on Palestine words. Israel is systematically torturing Palestinians on a scale that suggests collective engines and destructive intent. Anyone not going to any more. But I this is happening. This is from this morning. So I just want to remind everyone like. How does how does this happen how does that happen with our funding? It happens because we stay
silent happens because our governing bodies are merely administrators for the status quo. And we met with City Council for. Over a year asking them to pass a ceasefire resolution to to lend their voice. I'll go ahead and point out that in NOVEMBER 2021, they pass a resolution about Reese's in being a public health crisis. And if you don't have time to go through the recitals, but there are many recitals in that. Resolution that this can't MISS. This body passed. And that they're just letting slide and they let it slide for well over a year. We all know it's happening. Happening with our tax dollars. And once again, we we've we've fanned We being the federal government. You can't find enough people to attack or drop bombs on. And yeah, I just wanted bring us back to reality a little We can do better than this. And we need leaders that are. Not not just going to follow and pandered to. Funders and the greed that are promoting it. Thank you, Jason. Next. Speaker. Hope so. Hold your applause, He replies next Speaker place. >> Mayor Council. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls Gratings to follow up on that. Hundreds of U.S. Servicemen died in the service of Israel. Hundreds of them, including Marines. I served in the Marine Corps. See if I can my notes, gas prices, gas prices not have increased here because the U.S. Is not dependent on Persian Gulf oil. And because the U.S. Is the world's largest producer of oil. I didn't know that the
recently. If the oil found on federal lands of our lands. >> Are oil was sold only in the U.S. Gas prices could be far far lower. The oil companies sell our oil where they get most money. They capitalist. This is capitalism. How do you like it? The government could require. The oil companies to sell our oil only in the U.S.. But it does not require because the government is practically a wholly owned subsidiary of Wall Street. A large oil deposit was found on federal lands in Alaska. I mean, my own notes. Oil companies congressional approval to extract this oil. Congress passed a bill allowing its traction with a provision requiring the oil only be sold in the U.S.. When the oil companies got the oil. They had Congress remove the provision requiring only selling and the U.S.. Oil went to Asia for greater profits. It's went capitalist, do. Capitals profit from this capitalism. How do you how do you like that? Congress is practically a wholly owned subsidiary and the fact that the Great Straits of Hormuz blocks their profits, 7 increased every penny increase has been nothing but profit because it don't cost our oil companies penny more to deliver that And the previous speaker was right. Israel has been j# # # a knot country around. We sent troops over there and we've now send some flags over there to help the
idf forces that some misnomer terrorize and genocide. The Palestinians. Paying for it and you won't do a resolution. Shame on you. You should be ashamed yourselves. Are you that afraid of a pack You're going to be in those shares. Have some courage. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other members of the public would like to speak? Alright, sir, you have the floor. >> Hi there. My name is Michael. The I am a member of I'm a member of I live in Santa Rosa here. And I just want to echo everything that the previous 2 speakers said. >> It's really unfortunate that this council pass a ceasefire resolution at the time. We were told by many, many council members, including Councilmember stop that this was not a local issue, even though it was an issue for many people in this community who are members of the communities that dying are at war or being genocide. Many people in our community are part of those communities. It is a local issue. It's also a local issue because of the investments that the city has that continues to have to continue to profit from from genocide in from the worst that are happening. So I just want the public here to be really cognizant when people claim that things aren't a local issue because very often they are for many of us. It's very real it obstructs democracy when we're not allowed to to voice her opinion without getting shut down as being told that this is somehow not at your level of power when there's a reasonable demand being asked. I also just want to. I also just want to remind folks when budgeting comes up just the importance of remembering
that. That there are solutions in this community other than police saying. Very recently a member of the community, Eric Brown was shot by a deputy Taylor MacDonald during a wellness check. He was sleeping under a church and was harassed by a deputy and someone from the press and got agitated. Police are not always necessarily the best solution for cases like this. And it's really important that we look for other solutions in our community, then escalatory ones that create more violence and potentially cause death. Even though even though Eric Brown was not killed, he very well could have been killed. And so. How the same level of outrage I would if you had been killed. So thank you, everybody. >> All right. Thank you, Michel, are there other members of the public wish to speak? Janice, go ahead. Carmen. >> I just want to say that I hope everyone is listening to what all of these people have to say. There's a young boy who in part. In Spain. Gracie, the of the Gracie Family. When I took a trip to degrees in the 80's. And if you said you were American. You got some blowback from that. And the people who were affectionate toward us and cared. They said, don't say you're American. Say you're Canadian. And it gave me the chills. Always been proud of being Americans. I moved to South America before it was 20. Traveled quite a lot. As you all know. But right now things escalated beyond anything we've ever predicted in our worst mines. Thoughts. And I want to thank Caroline, especially I've been trying to think of how to communicate with you, whether to call you
right. Used do something. I don't do e-mail that, you know, well, but I want to thank Carolyn for opening up the conversation about the immigrants and the citizens being killed and it's been maybe 6 weeks ago. I don't know. I kind of lost track of time been busy myself, but I just want to say that things are beyond anything people have to unite. We have to collaborate. We have to get together. And the go against the evil that is being caused in our country. But it's not just in our country. It's globally. It's reflected all over the world. What America's doing. And this Hormuz. I don't even want to talk about it because I do want to give any spies. These ideas. But it's a very frightening situation hand right now. China is making its own waterway out of China so that it won't have to depend on that. But their friends with most of the world. So there's a lot to think about children are being raised. In this environment right now. And just try to be kind to your neighbors and help each other and stand up for what you can and still have a Thank you. >> Thank you, Janice. Are other members of the public that wish to Seeing none. We will close this public comment on non agenda matters and we will go to the item that most of you have been waiting for item. 16.1, our public hearing on the Purity Recovery Services appeal. >> Now getting more Thank you. MISS MacDonald will be has recused herself. And I will look to, as we're getting set up for the presentation here in front, we I will look to
our city clerk to talk about how we're going to public comment this evening or public engagement this evening during a public hearing. MADAM City Clerk. Thank you, Mayor. >> I do want to remind people participating today in the meeting that the courtyard speakers are on has seats are now limited in council chamber at the time. Public comment is called for item 16.1. The put it to item the mayor will allow for additional time for public commenters to make their way into the council chamber to provide public comment at that time. So if you're listening from the courtyard, please, no, that we will allow additional time for you to come into the council chamber. I also turn it over to Lauren to provide instructions on the interpretation services and then the Spanish and Mandarin interpreter restate those instructions in those languages. Lauren. Thank you, Tina. >> If I could get the interpreters currently not interpreting to raise their hand so I can move you back over. Thank you very much. Claudia or Sutro, which one of you is available? Thank you, Claudia. Right? So we are continuing interpretation of the meeting for those just joining the meeting. Live interpretation in Spanish and Mandarin is available. And members of the public or staff wishing to listen in Spanish or Mandarin. Can join the Spanish or Mandarin channels by clicking on the interpretation icon in the Zoom toolbar, it looks like a globe. If you are on your cell phone or tablet locate the 3 dots, top them lightly and put
a check mark on your preferred language. Click done to activate and begin the interpretation. Won't you join your preferred language channel. We recommend you shut off the main audio. So you only hear that language. We also have headsets available for those in chamber who would like to listen in either Spanish or Mandarin. They're available at the desk. The admin desk with Cher. Claudia and Willis, if you would, restate and Spanish and Mandarin, please. Thank you. >> See what said is that those women use need ice to come and listen to it. But the soon-to-be want to spend your team and getting members and political get personal condition is right in the and within only use it on and We'll see peak peak or the intent. But field in will typical track. You computers point school turned to me. This was sent a letter be at those 2 split in a police today. Sport coat was put into quarantine People in putting on a plan to meet that shoot But if it here, when say don't on the all it could mean that put up a lead acting but not in competition. Yeah, Kate was to international media mother, but it didn't turn thing was considered a lot of the old human, but a chart is I to equal. That is the spin lose. Suspect will not speculate coming a condition as coach Ed in explain your home and that knew some of these in a distant 3rd in the I mean, the specially on it's most explicit second back school students we talk this is to things. Thank you very much. Back to you. >> But it doesn't do in this of what you what you This a I 0, 2, with defend you. It issue to with us. To think you'll find Could he tell some
some immunisations here's the thing. Get the chill you young to die down to do. You should shins and the Shia, the n you want see also dew points against each fun to get clean the engine and that you did a good going to guys. I mean, it was sent get the chance I don't show that me, which I knew that knew he teaches at gym the thing to do She went down they get it to condone that ends of the we can to see that he doesn't offend you. That you MISS Of so funny to But with this, you tell that they were the one to get. Could you not show the country and them the 29th? She should do nothing new to to get team to do that. This is a fine Thank you so much. >> All right. Well, thanks to everyone for their patience as we as we took some time to get to this item. And thank you. As we have said, thank you for your patience as we've set it up with the with the translations. We're going to be repeating some of this when we actually get to the public comment section for those of you who thinking about making a public comment. And I know that there are many because many of you, if you're a couple dozen, have already signed up for the back of your mind, know that we're going to have limit public comment to one minute to make sure that everyone has a chance to speak. We have a lot of public commenters tonight. So if you're thinking through your remarks, just plan for it, you know, plan for having a minute to speak. And I will thank you again. But to Doctor Chan for helping organize this evening. Organized the public response. This is going to lead to a very, very engaged, interesting conversation. So thank you. Thank you. Dr Chan.
All right. With that, let's let's kick off our show here. Want to start with ex parte disclosures and we're right down the line. Starting with Rogers. >> Thank you. Mayor met with the applicant and the pellet. >> It is a sight, but I have not met with either so opponent. >> I met one time with the applicant and one time with the appellant over the phone. >> I know the applicant and the appellate and visited the site. Further to disclose. I met with the applicant and the appellant in visited the site and don't have any further disclosures. >> I met with the applicant and the appellant and I visited the site and I want a little bit of the planning Commission. >> All right. Thank you very much. We will then now go right to our staff presentation. Thank you both for being here. >> Thank you, Mayor. Stop and members of the City Council. My name is such an Airbus la and the project before you today is the period recovery services appeal. City staff received an appeal of the planning commission's approval of a minor conditional use permit for a 24 bed community care facility located in an existing mixed use building proposed facility would replace the existing 6 pet facility that is currently in operation at that site. The use consists of non-medical residential addiction treatment with services, including but not limited to monitoring and observing clients during the detoxification process providing addiction, education and relapse, prevention services. Here is the project location on the corner of Mountain Hawk and Highway 12. It is located in the Sky Hawk Village building. And here is a neighborhood contacts map. The project is located in the northeast quadrant of the city. In JULY 20 and JULY of
Zoning clearance was issued for a community care facility will have 6 or fewer clients as this is permitted by right? AUGUST of 2022, the applicants submitted for a minor conditional use permit for community care facility of 7 or more clients. In OCTOBER of 2022. Isn't a notice of zoning. Administrator public meeting was distributed and then we received a request for a public hearing following that city staff also met with neighbors and due to the amount of public interest involved. The item was an elevated to the planning Commission for decision. In DECEMBER of 2022, the Planning Commission held a public hearing at which be motion to adopt the resolution failed JANUARY of 2023. The mine a conditional use permit was then withdrawn by the applicant and in MAY of 2025. We received and you want a conditional use permit application for a for the same project. NOVEMBER of 2025. Planning Commission approved this project by a vote of 4 yeses to nose and one absent. And then in NOVEMBER 11/24/2025. We receive to appeal forms. I don't know. Now go through the grounds for appeal that were submitted. The first is that the planning Commission failed to adequately address are analyzed. Environmental impacts pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act, including impacts to traffic noise and the general plan, consistency and zoning. The project was reviewed and compliance with see quiet and was found to be. It was time to qualify for 3
sequel exemptions. The first is Section 1, 5, 3, 3, 2 for an infill project. And the project aligns with all of the criteria listed in the Subsections of Section 1, 5, 3, 3, 2, Subsection, the project is consistent with the general 2035, which is in effect at the time that the project was deemed complete as well as the general plan 2050, which was adopted by the city Council in JUNE of 2025. The project is also consistent with the city of Santa Rosa. Zoning code. The general plan menus designation is mix of retail and business services and medium density residential. The project is consistent with the allowed density for medium density residential and community care facilities are permitted and all general plan land use designations. The project is also consistent with goals and policies set forth within the general plan 2050, by providing housing on medical treatment for people dealing with addiction and supporting exist. The existing business through expansion as well as the health of the community by expanding access to treatment and services. The project also consistent with the zoning code. The site is zoned. CNNs are or neighborhood commercial. Scenic Road. Table to 6 of the zoning code identifies the specific land uses that are allowed within the city's commercial zoning districts. And states that community care facilities of 7 or more clients allowed with an approved minor conditional use permit. The project has
also been found to be in compliance zoning codes, regulations for specifically for community care facilities. Subsection b of U.S.. Guidelines, Section 1, 5, 3, 3, 2, The project is located within the city of Santa Rosa's jurisdiction and is on a project site of No more than 5 acres. And it's also located within an existing shopping center surrounded by urban residential development, subsection scene. The project site is currently developed with a mixed use commercial building. And it does not have any habitat value for endangered prayer or or threatened species. Subsection d the project will not result in any significant effects related to traffic noise, air quality water quality. The trip generation assessment that is attached. Included in the agenda conclude that the project would result in a less than significant transportation impact on the vehicle. Miles traveled and the city's traffic engineering division has reviewed the traffic. And the proposal and agrees with the findings the proposed project who will go into an existing building and there's no expansion proposed and the facility does not propose any exterior uses or activities that would constitute a noise nuisance and they will be required to comply with the city's noise ordinance. And subsection e the project is the project site is located in a developed area where it can be adequately served by all required utilities and public services. The project is also
exempt from secret pursuant to secret guidelines sections. 1, 5, 301, because the project is located within an existing structure involving a negligible expansion of the existing use. And again, there are no request to expand the existing building. And lastly, the project is exempt from secret pursuant to Secret guidelines, section 1, 5, 1, 8, 3, because it is consistent with the general plan 2050 for which there is certified environmental impact. Reports. And it was also found to be consistent with the general plan 2035, which was in effect at the time of the applications, middle. And this section of seek also mandates that projects which are consistent with zoning community plan. Our general plan policies for which and the irs certified shall not require additional environmental review unless there are projects significant effects peculiar to the project, which they're not there for it. There is no additional environmental analysis required. The second grounds for appeal is that the proposed project is incompatible with the low density residential character of the neighborhood that uses proposed to occupy and 7 existing residential apartment units within the multi-tenant commercial mixed use building. Building is comprised of various commercial uses both retail and services. Furthermore, Skyhawk village building is located at the southwest corner of Highway 12 and Mountain Hawk just at the southern edge of the Skyhawk neighborhood. It's not within the low density residential neighborhood. And it's on a commercial center, its its within a commercial center on a site that's zoned for commercial and residential uses. And physically separated
from the nearest single family residential properties by both Skyhawk Creek and Park. The 3rd ground for appeal is that the applicant misrepresented the nature of the business operations, including the number of staff and the quality care provided on site. Staff is not aware of any misrepresentation of the proposed operations. The applicant did in the project description provide details regarding the future operation of a 24 bed facility, including the number of staff services the structure of their program. Sets forth how they would operate if approved and is not reflection of their current operation. Furthermore, the Touch draft resolution does contain several binding conditions regarding the number of staff hours. And you climb some MAY be admitted as well as crime supervision and the applicant does understand that if a future operation of the facility, it's time to be inconsistent with the project description or other provisions of city code or with the conditions of approval that the operator MAY be subject to code enforcement action and potentially revocation of these permit. The project has been reviewed in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act. Those 3 exemptions that I had discussed earlier. And I would also like to add that. Staff has received several public comments both prior to the Planning Commission meeting. And since the Planning Commission meeting they are both in favor of the project and many expressing concerns
about the project. These comments are addressed in both the City Council staff report as well as the Planning Commission staff report that are attached to the agenda. But if there are any further questions about the comments that we received, I'm happy to elaborate. The planning commission and the planning and Economic Development Department recommended the council by resolution deny the 2 appeals and uphold the decision of the Planning Commission to approve the mine are conditional use permit to allow a 24 bed community care facility at 5, 7, 6, 1, Mountain Hawk Drive and sweets to a one to 2, a 7. We are available for any questions. And we also have staff from fire police and traffic available. If there are any questions as well chair weeks. There are any questions about the planning Commission's decision. Thank you. Thank you know, our Jessica. All right. Bring it back to council for questions. MISTER Alvarez. >> Thank you, Mayor. >> a couple weeks ago we were presented with an appeal of you loop apartments. >> Where? >> State mandates. Give us direction on how to operate. My question on this project here, are there any state? That is state policy that weather we uphold appeal or not. Forces or guys is to accept this application because it coincides with state law. >> No, not that we're aware of. Vice mayor >> Thank you, MR. Mayor couple questions for me. I believe you touched on it already, but
can you expand on if complaints arise out of noise or an expanded 24 but operation. What enforcement tools does the city have to address those? >> Yes, if the city receives code enforcement comes up, could a violation complaints than our code enforcement team does go out and conduct an investigation. And if they are found to noncompliance, then there are steps such as citations first is usually. Learning. Experience warning. I can move into citations and if it can persist, possibly revocation of that permit. >> Okay. Thank Saloon here somewhere I know is Montrezl pretty much preach compliance before punishment. So. We have both the available to us. Another question is some of the comments of already receive e-mail, one of the cup. I'm curious who determines if this is a clinical operation or residential operation and how's that determination made? >> Yes, so the their state licensing is what determines that. So they're the state license that they have. And I can let that happen touch on this later as well. Their state licensing does not permit them to be considered a medical clinic or medical facility. The >> are. >> Deemed a non medical treatment facility, but they are allowed to do certain. And so, Larry Medical Services as a part of that. They cannot be deemed a medical facility for offering those services. >> All right. So to state licensing determination, okay.
And my last >> You know, we've gotten a lot of feedback not only on this, but other items and then come before about highway 12 evacuations. So through the city manager, if we can. >> Have either the fire chief or fire marshal address fire evacuations things have changed since glass. And can Cade. >> We have our fire chief here, Apollo on Paula Zahn is on zoom, said, ok, great policy, which like address the issue. >> Good afternoon, Mayor Vice mayor members of council, thank you for the question regarding evacuations, civic to this facility, we did get a number questions and concerns related to this particular project. Your correct? Since 2017, a number of improvements have been made specific to the issues that we experience the Santa Rosa, most notably during the 2020 class fire, even though we were aware of the amount of time that we would have to evacuate the east part of Santa Rosa again, for the glass fire. We saw a number of people regardless of the type of education outreach that we have provided the city all nationally go towards the West on Highway 12. With that, we have a worked with our transportation public Works Department as well as our police department and have implemented. We first was a flush plan that will help with evacuations in the east part of Santa Rosa allow for much more expeditious process. It's also important to note that we have been working to refine our wildland interface. This project does not fall on it, but it does fall within the evacuation zone. That in our while editor Urban Interface.
Regardless from an evacuation standpoint, this project would go through that analysis and that process which we have done. We have reviewed several of the comments and stance as far as how we would evacuate this particular area has not changed. >> Thank you out follow up question. Would you in your professional opinion consider use any risk here than if these were residential units and residential occupancy in the same units. >> So thank you for the question. So from the know, we look occupants primarily within our wildland urban interface that have police or 2 is bedridden or not. And Tory clients has a higher risk. That's a conversation that had it within our general plan discussion. However, even though this facility is not happy bedridden or not, I know that patients, it's also not within our wildland urban interface. So from a wrist and point it would not be treated any different. Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any further questions from council at this moment? All right. Thank you both. I will move on then to let's Chair weeks. Our planning Commission chair, thank you for being here tonight. Thank you for your work on this. >> Okay. Good afternoon, Mayor. Step. And here always telling everybody to get really close tonight. I'm doing good afternoon. Mayor Stapp Vice-mayor Okrepkie and members of the City Council as mentioned my name and Karen weeks. I'm the chair of the Planning Commission. And as I
do when I come before you. I would like to give some context as to commission's actions last year. As you know, our responsibility is to implement plans, ordinances and policies relating to land use matters. NOVEMBER. 13th 2025. The Planning Commission reviewed request for a minor conditional use permit for this project. 6 events PRESIDENT. 4 members supported the project who are opposed and one member was absent. At the meeting, we reviewed the proposal consistent with the general plan land use designations and zoning codes. These are described in more detail and the staff report as well as of the staff presentation. At that meeting. 43 spoke during the public hearing. 24 in opposition and 19 in support. As part of our role, we are required to make certain findings consistent with the regulations. Those findings are detailed in the attached. And the attached resolution that you have in your packet. Both the resolution that the commission passed as well as the being proposed by staff for you today. As mentioned, commissioners were not in support and could not make the required findings. When commissioner was unable to make finding c. That the proposed activity would be compatible with existing and future land use is in the vicinity. He felt that converting all the residential units on a neighborhood commercial site to one type of residential use could change the nature of the residential unit. He also stated concern
about the intensity of the use and that there is no evidence that the intensity would not cause a change in the land. Use activity or affect existing and future land use. He was also unable to make finding d that the site is physically suitable for that type density and intensity of use being proposed. He mentioned that the parking lot is not easy to access. And though the intensity and thought the intensity is well beyond what is comment on that tonight? The other commissioner not position was unable to make finding be that the proposed use is consistent with the general plan any applicable special for specific plan. He cited several specific goals and policies of the general plan. Related to ensuring that growth and change will serve. The community needs foster incomplete neighborhood to the need for this type of service and encouraging the development of housing. He also stated that there's not a documented need for the specific kicks banded use at this site. He also felt that the current 6 bed facility is meeting the general plan goals and policies and therefore, you could not make a finding for the general plan. Consistency to expand. And as I previously mentioned, the remaining 4 were able to make all the required findings that the detailed in the resolution. So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions you MAY have. Thank you. Chair weeks looking to council questions. >> Apologize, Mayor. I believe Paula Cole has something else that he wanted to add. If we could get back. Tamara, please, MR. Hollande, all welcome back. >> Thank you, Marion Mayor and I apologize. Need to clarify something was my ways
following last night's meeting. So the current project does fall within our existing wildland Urban Interface, Fire area. With the committee meetings that we've taking place, an item that will be brought up for you with council recommendation is actually to move this specific area out of our wildland interface. This area was not back in 2009 with the changes both in the built environment changes to our local conditions as well as our fire history and the recommendations from the state Fire Marshal's office. This specific is recommended to be brought out of our wildland urban interface. And be brought before council on APRIL. 21st. >> Thank you for that update. MR. Lawns, all. Right. That it that good information to our fiery rest discussion. MISS Is weeks what we have. You are where all the together actually I wanted to if I want to know if you could give us a sense as to whether this location for a site of this general use is unusual in the city. So I my wife and I, for example, we live over on Summerfield Road just up the street from the from what was what was the s e y Dream Center now has a record gospel mission. That was again in in mixed use commercial center with residential all around it. That was conceived originally the 100 bed facility. And it's still you it's it's still being used with the sizable number units. So that's one example. I know from the city are able to speak from your expertise is as do how many sites like this Santa Rosa has currently.
Thank you for that question. Mayor. >> so I don't have the exact number of how many we have here in Santa Rosa. We certainly can find that information for the council. I can say there's project that I actually worked on when I first started here at the city as a city planner and those over off of Corby, that was a large community care facility for similar type of abuse. That directly with in a residential neighborhood. There was a lot of concern at that time with that particular project. But they ended up being a very good neighbor and very well received by the neighborhood. >> Thank you. I guess the I wasn't looking for specific number so much as a sense that this is this is in fact, it kind of project that the city's undertaken in the past with some success, as I would certainly say that the essay Why Dream Center and the current reading Gospel mission have been for our neighborhood again, very calm, very, very controversial back in 2011 as it was being considered. But it's been it's been a good thing for the city to have those beds there. We we need them in our community. This week sending any that. From your from your perspective, you know, thank you. All right. That's it. MISS Funding. >> Thank you, Mayor. Your question had come up with a question which is I'm not familiar with the site on Corby. I'm familiar with Work hospital to hospital site. So just to clarify, there's other strip mall locations in the city of Santa Rosa where there's residential facilities. >> So we would need to that. The one that I was speaking of is not actually in a retail location. It's actually within the neighborhood. >> So are there any other facilities that are within
retail locations in the city? >> I'm not aware, but I can get that information, ok? That would be helpful if possible. Thank you so much. Thank you. Any of the questions, MR. Alvarez. >> Your questions. Parker questions sparked my question. And my question is, if this is are we cannot come up with another example of a facility within the commercial. Pause or district. And says we don't have anything that I've heard in our. Conversations about. Future Generar general plans with this action. We sent a PRESIDENT's of what we can and can do throughout the city of Santa Rosa. In other shopping centers. Or would it cite specific? >> like if I could that we don't have that many residential units above the strip And that's I think unique about this am I correct? You're cut kind of and that was unique when it was built back. With 20 some odd years ago is that there was residential above the strip mall down below or the businesses and that is unique Santa Rosa. So that combination is unique. >> To that point, I know that that a lot of conversations that happen. Officer developments throughout the city Does involved a mixed use number, how that could be influencing want to think about a possible road. In council Rogers district, there is a 2 sides, the corridor towards the end, this mess road which does have the mixed use of the commercial in the bottom and the residents want
top. >> Community care facilities. Of 7 are more clients are permitted in every residential and commercial zoning district to with the exception. >> that. Vehicle, the vehicle's sales district so this project alone would not set a precedent. The zoning code already. Regulates where this would be allowed in the future, including other mixed use sites in the future. >> You mentioned vehicle something. >> That this is a vehicle sales, a commercial zoning district is the only district that does not well with the exception of we've got to open space districts where community care facilities are not allowed otherwise community care facilities and that are the small up to 6 beds are permitted by rate in all of our commercial residential and industrial zoning districts and they are allowed with a minor conditional use permit in all of those same district. So a large community care facility anywhere in the city. With the exception of the odd, a vehicle sales and the open space districts would need a minor conditioning is front and we would be reviewed on its own merits. We showed up. The questions at the moment. >> All right. Want thank all of you for the information and we will officially open the public hearing. We're going to start with the presentations and I believe we have Skyhawk united here to kick off the appellant presentations. Who is it? DR. Chan is a is that
you making a presentation wonderful make you make your way back to the podium. Thank you again for being here for helping to organize the community engagement. >> So Chris been slight. That was my slides. Thanks. >> One moment they're loaded. >> Thanks for your patience, everyone. We're going slides loaded. >> As I was weak, some mistakes. >> a up and going. Again. Thanks thanks for your patience, everyone. Minor technical difficulty. Our city clerk has been working overtime at this meeting today. So let me know They're like your recovery close. One moment. David Ramos >> Thank you, Mary. Should be good to go. Nor is going to advance the slides for MR. Chen and we have a 10 minute timer started. >> Wonderful. And if somebody does have the microphone in the back because they're streaming the meeting, if you turn on the sound just because we're going it all the way up here. All right. Dr Chan, you have the floor. Thank you. >> Good evening. Mayo staff council members. My name is David Chen. I am here today representing Skyhawk United and the bad of sudden rolls out coalition. >> We are. >> Foreman requesting that long-term the planning full to won approval. >> On the night, I know conditional use permit 4. 57 61 Mountain Hawk Drive. We know that just a neighborhood, a group, we see the light coalition. Next slide. Please.
I have served ocd of a member of the community Advisory board and as a leader in several cultural and a face based organizations. My background you're in a state gives me a professional lands or how land use decisions, impact, neighborhood stability. I'm here. Other resident who deeply cares about the integrity of general Next slide. Please. To be clear we support recovery services. Support for some news. Does another meeting? Every location is appropriate. This specific proposal is being compatible and unsuitable for its side. Because fails to meet the legal requirements full Fundings c and d and because eliminates critical, affordable housing units. Mid cannot be legally held. Next time. Please. Dignity recovery require space and several people Peace and the south the space. Proposal you can move. Those needs cramming when you full hi need to patients into 7 come do units. There is no outdoor area for the patients. No sustainable solution for smoking. And a massive fire commission. Now Bility for those individuals on the second story. Warehouse model on camera. This so to the patients themselves? Next? A boost. Look at this institutional island, the site, it's a full roughly 1000 homes within a half mile radius and these on a primary
students walking route to Austin Creek Elementary, which is a 1500 feet away and it is about 400 feet away for up from an existing community care facility. Most critically. It is located between 2 wildfire evacuation exits, creating then jewels on that, you know, high risk, a next slide. Please. We agree with Commissioner Carter and send us. Council cannot make a funding c. Project represents a fundamental shift from a neighborhood, a sobering center to regional institutional hop. There has been no data provided to demonstrate the specific need to for scale at this location, making entirely inconsistent was out in the Next slide. Please. For the finding the cannot be made. Commissioner Carter noted too, the site is a physically I'm suitable for these density and intensity. There is an insufficient evidence to show got 20 full battle presion can be managed safely on the second floor with a significant physical constraints. Next slide. Please. This isn't to go. Site. Only drive has left
neighbors. I'm happy about and Hawking. Patients. Them all seen smoking porches and in the We have also seen every house strong to sell off to multiple price reductions. Due to free impacts. Next slide. Please. We are already seen. The sounds at the 57 62 Mohawk Dry. Seager about. Creating fire risks. You know, since the of Creek area. And parking is breaking point. Look at his pictures. If the applicant can other manage these impacts small scale. This me can not. And it's what intensity is vote 2.24 bats. Next slide. Please. The planning commission was in by brought business support. The is that the applicant is that landlords for food news, envy and agile Jones. Letters of support financial byproduct, a landlord tenant relationship, not a reflection of community consensus. Next slide. Please. This map shows true consensus. We have Oval 500 6 And the 600 electronic signatures. From residents across all 7 districts in the city of Central This a city mandate to protect neighborhood. Especially the sea and zoning
and to protect all residents. That's light. In conclusion. The patients needs our have been ignored. And the site. Suitable and incompatible. And the impacts the neighborhood already evident. When and council, you have that discretion and the duty to say no. On behalf of it have being those who all this gloom, we You hold the appeal on the night to pull me for the safety and integrity of Santa Rosa, thank you so much. Thank you. Doctor Chan. >> Into the woods cold or colder applause, folks. >> a procession of I should explain a little bit more. So we've got we have a lot of presenter tonight and what we don't want to do is I, you know, created an atmosphere where it's we're cordial around officiant. So by all means show your so your appreciation, but do it quietly. You can do that to the traditional jazz fingers. And this especially holds true. Go into public comment because obviously people are we saying things that will generate a lot of support. But we do want to be plotting in between each every comment. We want to moving efficiently between speakers. So that's the reason to hold your applause with that are going on to our second appellant presentation for the evening. Kelsey Maynard. Are you here? Calais, Kelsey, hello. Thank you, Aaron. >> Business owner. I actually live in district 4 that care deeply about this issue. And I really hope you listen with an open mind if you have the power to listen to your citizens and to make decisions, not just because they go by the book, but because they're going to
impact your city and its teacher. So I just ask that you listen with an open mind tonight and make a decision that supports your citizens because we have a petition of over 600 signatures and there's not a petition from. City of Santa Rosa residents for this project only against it. And with that a letter attorney and take it from you. Thank you. >> Thanks, Kelsey. Good evening. Mayor Stapp and council. I'm cognizant of our time. Thanks for getting our slides up there. My name is Aaron Carlstrom. I'm speaking on Kelly's behalf as she attends to mom duties. This appeal tonight is not about that. All you have recovery services generally. It's about whether this particular project at this particular location was lawfully approved based on the evidence in the record, as you know, your role tonight is a quasi judicial one. The question before you is whether the planning Commission's findings are supported by substantial evidence and whether the city preceded in the manner required by law. Would you please click to the next slide? This is your standard of review. Under the code of Procedure. Section 10, 94.5. Your task tonight is narrow. You're not being asked tonight to substitute your policy judgment being asked to determine whether the findings are legally adequate and supported by substantial evidence in the administrative record. If the findings are unsupported, incomplete or failed to address key issues, the approval cannot stand next slide. Please. The central issue in this appeal is owning
in compatibility compatibility with the general plan. The project site, as you know, is located in the neighborhood commercial zoning district. That district intended and described by code to serve the daily needs of the surrounding neighborhood. The approved project is a 24 bed residential recovery facility that serves clients from outside the neighborhood and operates at a scale far greater than existing uses on Mount Hot Drive. The Planning Commission's findings conclude that the project is permissible in the zone, but they never explain how a regional residential facility serves the daily needs of the Skyhawk neighborhood that analytical bridge is missing from the record. Again, this is peel is not asking whether the use is allowed somewhere in the city and asked whether the findings demonstrate compatibility with this zoning district at this scale in this location. Next slide, please. The record also reflects what we've skipped. That's okay talk about this one. >> The project site is located in a high fire hazard severity zone. Approval allows a significant increase in residential occupancy, but the record contains no project specific evacuation analysis. That accounts for that increase sequel requires analysis of cite specific risks, particularly where project MAY exacerbate evacuation constraints during a wildfire merge wildfire emergency. Again, this appeal does not argue that the project necessarily creates an unavoidable risk. It argues
that that required analysis is absent from the record and therefore the city lacks substantial evidence to poor its conclusions. Next slide. Please. We also have before you and resolve concerns about whether the approval is supported by substantial evidence. The planning Commission's decision was split as you heard from chair weeks, several commissioners raised concerns about intensity neighborhood fit and safety at the same time, the record contains extensive opposition from nearby residents. Hundreds of households from across the city. Not just the affected district. The findings do not reconcile that opposition or explain why it was outweighed for purposes of judicial review. That omission matters next slide. Please. We have as well. And at questions you need to this decision tonight that we asked the council to be mindful of, as you know, the council member representing the affected district has properly recused herself due to prior consultations with her constituents. As a result, the neighborhood most directly affected by this project has no elected representative participating in the decision. No fall sign for that circumstance. But it underscores the importance of careful and heightened scrutiny of the administrative record to ensure a fair hearing for affected residents. Next slide. Please. For purposes of preserving the record and to build a clear when we respectfully ask following questions, what substantial evidence in the record demonstrates that this facility serves the daily needs of the Skyhawk
neighborhood as required by the neighborhood commercial zoning. Where did the findings analyze whether quadrupling the intensity of the use is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood? Is there any project specific evacuation analysis in the record? Where do the findings reconcile the scale of neighborhood opposition reflected in the record and finally, given the council members recusal, how has the city insured heightened scrutiny of this record? Next slide. Please. We have presented for the council's consideration. A variety of alternative conditions and mitigations while appellants position is that the project remains legally indefensible. If the council is inclined to move forward with approval this evening, these are a variety of conditions that would ensure compatibility and mitigate the impact to the neighborhood. >> Next slide, please. >> Finally, the formal appeal are The formal request, of course, is that we asked the council to uphold the appeal, denied this up. >> In the alternative, if the council is inclined to allow this project to continue under consideration, we asked you remanded to the planning Commission for an evaluation of these specific event, environmental impacts. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. MISS Carlstrom and ms ms Maynard. Are there any questions from council? No, seeing no questions right now. Ok? Thank you. Thank you both for that presentation, we will turn then to the applicants presentation. Alex,
are you here? >> Good evening. Members of the council is that working? It is mean and that that might just pick up sound very well. But thank Thank you for being here tonight. >> I maxed out the high on this thing. Unfortunately, >> hello, my name is Alex I'm one of the owners and operators of pure Vita Recovery Services >> first, I want to start out by thanking our neighbors at the project Joseph Bluesky, the owner of massage and the Patrick Cam owner of Anytime fitness. Bob Duffield, the owner of Edward Jones office calling Falconer the owner of Colleen's Coffee shop Frankie, the owner of the entire building next door. These neighbors all have a vested financial interest in the operation of their respective businesses at the site with whom we share common space and parking. Given the level of opposition our project has faced. It's no small gesture for them to publicly support It's a testament to the good faith in which we have worked together to foster true neighborly relationships and affirmation that the good work that we strive to do every day is making an impact. In achieving its desired goal to provide quality affordable addiction treatment to as many people as possible. And also like to thank everyone at the city planning department who's helped us along the way and approved our project as well as the planning Commission for seeing the value and appropriateness of our project. It's been a long road and we wouldn't be here without all of you. Over the past months, we have held 4 public meetings which were hosted by members of the leadership team at Pura Vita Dr Chan graciously notified his sizable community e-mail list of these opportunities to learn about Pura Vita and our work. We also posted public
signs next to the Notice of Public hearing signs as well as flyers that Collins coffee shop. These 2 meeting to the meetings were held in person at Colleen's which she generously offered for that purpose and 2 are held via video conference. While the turnout was disappointing. Only 2 people showed up between all 4 meetings, despite many in the community being aware of their their happening we're glad to have the opportunity to educate those that showed up. I want to take a couple minutes to address some of the misconceptions about the project that we have heard or that you MAY hear tonight. First neighborhood effects there have been no complaints reported to the city, vita or neighboring businesses or landlords further. We have there have been no law enforcement calls for service relative to our residents and many members of the surrounding community of not even noticed our operation. Our other locations have likewise generated. No complaints are calls for service that we are aware of. The police department and fire both reviewed our application for safety and approve that. New complaints about trash and smoking and drinking in the adjacent park, including the pictures you saw on the opponent slide. Are not the result of our clients. Our residents do not smoke in the public park or leave trash there. They're supervised at all times and the exits to our on a 24 7 by camera. In fact, the trash in the park has been an ongoing issue that we've been dealing with with the neighboring landlord. And we've removed that at our expense from the city park. I would also like to mention that something else you saw in. The appellants slide. You mentioned our neighbor at
another facility of ours, that 1, 5, 0, 6, Ronny Drive was opposing this project reported that we were a nuisance and that our presidents was affecting the value of her home. Received an email from her this morning supporting the project and wishing us luck in our endeavors. Neighboring businesses. The proposed use will not affect the existing businesses at the center at the facility only use existing 7 residential units upstairs. Supervision. Our residents are supervised by between 4 and 6 staff members. 24 hours a day. Traffic, an emergency evacuation, a professional trip generation memo found that our use will have no increase on traffic and MAY reduce traffic from the project location. There's no evidence that this project poses any greater risk during emergency evacuations in area. And we already have evacuation plans approved by Santa Rosa Fire Department. The Department of Health Care Services and the Joint Commission. How dispiriting to manage security. Your maintains an active blemish license from the California Department of Health Care Services as well as an number. Most accreditation from the Joint Commission. These regulatory bodies have sort authority to govern the operation facilities of our time. They require strict guidelines for clients safety by operating a non medical adult residential addiction treatment facility. Pura Vita is obligated to operate under these guidelines and we hold ourselves to the highest standard in order to maintain a safe and effective treatment environment for our clients and neighbors. These include policies and procedures of the highest standard for client
intake admission, privacy and discharge. In addition, the facility has a 24 7 video monitor. The operation of our program does not fit the definition of cnn's own The neighborhood commercial district explicitly states that it encourages residential portions of development developments in the zone are you says residential in nature and a clear fit City staff. The planning commission and the city attorney's office have reviewed our application. None of them have raised objections to the suitability of our use, given the zoning. Purita recovery services has no intention of changing any portion of the commercial use of the building. Located at the site, the businesses there will continue to serve the day-to-day needs of the local neighborhood and workplaces. Logically apartments cannot in any interpretation provide for the day-to-day needs of local neighborhoods and workplaces. They're uses as residential apartments, however, will remain the same. As a non-medical residential facility. Purita Recovery services will continue to provide residential accommodation for up to 24 members of the community. Including any immediate neighbors who MAY need our service to date. We have had multiple residential admissions from members of the sky community. Housing loss. None of the 7 apartments at the project location are currently designated as affordable housing. In addition, the housing stock will not be lost. It will be used to house 24 members of the community in a residential setting. Furthermore, a new affordable housing project with 99 units just opened less than half a mile away from the project on the corner of Highway 12 in Calistoga Road. With all that if this is truly a concern of the Sky Hawk residence, we could maintain the 7 units and their current
state and use them for sober living. This plan could accommodate 60 plus residents with no permit license or a credit accreditation required. For verification. Please see the mail in the public record between myself and the planning Department confirming that sober living requires no permit. Of course, this option would drastically increase traffic and residents would be far less supervised. This is obviously not our preferred use. Demonstrated need. The idea that an applicant for a minor use permit must conduct. A study to prove that services are needed at a precise location, its baseless and not found anywhere in the minor use permit application requirements or the city code. Frankly, if there's no need, the business will fail. As Commissioner Gorton noted in his public comment, it is the city's job to foster an environment where businesses can succeed independently in serving their customers. With that said, a recent center as a Department of Health and Human Services internal Study show the drug and alcohol abuser key contributing factors to some of the top causes. It of premature death in Santa Rosa. No such study exist or could be created to measure the need for such services within a single neighborhood. But the need for services within Santa Rosa is well documented by dhhs. Character and function of the shopping center. As previously stated, the residential portion of the building will continue to be used for residential use compatible with the city code in general plan. Any additional concerns into the city via e-mail, senator around vagrants vandalism, criminal activities and property values and
dangerous to schoolchildren. These have been left unaddressed until now because I think we can all agree that they are baseless. And according to our nearly 3 years of operational success, false. Unfortunately, they're also discriminatory. Our clients find themselves in the position of being members of a protected class. There's a vast legal precedent stating that these types of claims. Cannot be the basis to deny them housing or services. The proposed project will continue to have no negative impact on the residential neighborhoods near our program. Our community is not immune to the effects of arc our country's broader addiction crisis. In fact, Sonoma County just lost one of its longest standing and largest residential addiction treatment facilities when as or acres closed its stores eliminating over 50 available residential beds. We hope to fill that gap. You know, our neighbors a place to land when they need it. Most. Here. Has been a pillar in the treatment community in Santa Rosa for 10 years. A reputation as one of quality addiction treatment and neighborly conduct. Our only goal is to continue to quietly and effectively treat struggling members of our community. In fact, your view that was just voted best treatment facility in the North Bay by the Bohemian. What we do is very hard providing the services we provide comes with many responsibilities and duties, none of which we take lightly. It is our hope that the city council sees the value in our work, the quality of our proposal and recognizes the years of quality service we have provided and votes to approve this life-saving project. Finally, I would like that to express my sincere gratitude for the support we
have received. And for everyone taking the time to show today, it's really important to us and a valid. It's all the hard work that we put in over the years. Thank you. Thank you. MR. Would do well. Older applause. But great to see you. Have we have mixed mixed for both development applicant. >> Bringing back to council for questions. MR. Rogers. Have a whole list for you. So. >> How close is your location to any other services will the residents need to access services well-being at your facility? >> What types of services or your friend? >> nice. Well, I don't know what they need to access additional services or is everything kinda House? >> Most everything is done. And if you think. Most everything is done in-house, anything. Anything for which we require treatment outside of our facility. The client has referred out so, you know, our clients throughout go out for activities as part of their treatment. But we do. We do almost everything in House. >> then also great to hear that you have. >> a robust amount of staff. >> Is there a smoking location? On site and this has nothing to do with that picture with the one cigarette b# # # just But it did come up. So I do want to ask, is there a smoking location? >> There is not a designated smoking area at the site. There are 2 places on the site that we've identified with planning staff that might work. It was a long conversation and it was our understanding that we didn't we weren't required to have one for this application. And so any smoking that takes place on the site. Comply with
the city's zoning ordinance up into including adding a zoning smoking area with the planning Department during the permitting process. >> They're with me. I'm going in the weeds you All right. When we talk about our children and we talk about. >> Schools. >> Do you how sick or check for people that are registered or possible sex offenders? We doing They don't receive service that are treating so. >> then are there problems? This is, I guess, for our >> public safety. Chief, get ready, but also get that win and go. How many clients do you currently have in the location that we're talking about? And do you have other locations throughout the city? We do. There are 6 that live full time at the mountain off location. >> And we have 2 other locations to other residential locations in Santa Rosa. That also have 6 clients at each facility. >> And what is the occupancy Michael length of stay number of people. So if you have 6 are the beds typically? >> All full. >> Let's just talk about ridge Census. >> we actually were just going over the numbers. We spend most of our time at or above 80%, including about 20% of the year were completely full and turning people away with the waiting list. Okay. So there is a need. >> in. Are you planning to run day for your other locations in this location. No. >> The other locations, the plan right now is to
consolidate our operation into one location and have 24 beds at the same single facility. We will maintain the license at one of our properties so that it can be used during the day for activities because it's about I don't 2 miles away a mile and a half away. About. I think it's about an with we have our goats and chickens in our garden in the pool in a big there. So. A lot of daily activities for the clients sleeping at the Mountain Hawks location will happen at that facility. Very appropriate. >> And chief. Is that, yes, there you go. Are there problems >> the residents there are being called because I I heard you say that there were not, but that you knew of So I would like to go to the person that would definitely >> Yes, and I'll bring Captain Dan Moran sick overseas or field services division. He's been working very closely with our beat La Tenet, bring the Herrington. He's been go poring through the data and he's prepared to go through that tonight. Good evening, Cameron. 6 Santa Rosa Police Department. >> So what we did looking at it from a public safety aspect is we examine historical or pass calls for service. We've had the location. And since 2022, there's been minimal calls for service. We've had 5 calls for service, but none of them have actually been associated with that location was with other locations within the complex. So the impact law enforcement, men minimal since 2022. >> Thank you very much, mayor. That concludes my questions for Thank you. Is slowing. >> I am. I wanted to follow up with some questions. I don't know if this is appropriate for the applicant or for staff
about the smoking area. Actually, I think this questions for staff, which is where on site would would meet our zoning code that the facility could use to cite a smoking location. The initial proposal included a r designated smoking area that is consistent with the city's smoking ordinance, but it was visible from Highway 12 and that was not preferred by the planning Commission therefore, it was. Difficult to find a location that would be supported by the Planning Commission. So the applicant ultimately chose to not include designated smoking area because they are not required to. So where on site would taking out just for a moment? With all due respect to the planning commission, taking out their discretion? Where on site would be appropriate places. I don't mean appropriate in terms of discretion. I just made appropriate in terms of the zoning code to cite as a smoking location. Thank you for the question. Councilmember. So in looking at the setback requirements for of the traditional setback requirements for the sand zoning district, as well as the additional setbacks for the scenic road from Highway 12. >> And looking at are smoking ordinance regulations as well. It's it's very limited where an area could go. It is within the parking area. But the the applicant has more parking spaces than is required for the use. So taking up a few parking spaces for a designated smoking area would likely be in that. And that parking area and not affecting the required parking for the site right. Just wonder,
though, if >> if that that code envision like anybody I I worked around mental health and substance abuse treatment facilities. When you have these kind of facilities, people are smoking frequently like all the time. And so I just wonder if that would interfere with the other uses you know, in gress egress in the parking lot or for the other businesses in the facility. >> In the review that staff did, we did not find that it would have an impact on the other uses within the site and again and not on the required parking for the site. Thank you for the information. Other questions. >> All right now, well, now is the moment that it was and waiting for. We're going to our public comment. So we have many we have many people signed up already. Our city clerk is going still take this up. I will remind everyone about a couple of things. First of all, everyone will have up to one minute. We want to use both of the podiums. Obviously we have a lot. We have a lot of speakers and we want make sure that everyone's heard. She want to go as quickly back and forth between the 2 podiums as we can. And a reminder, again, no applause, please or no cheering as we go on from from speaker to speaker. Show your support quietly. But we want to go back and forth as efficiently as possible. And thank you again to everyone who came out tonight to make public comment with that. MADAM City clerk, turn over to you. Thank you, mayor. >> Briefly, I'd like to ask for a show of hands for those in the room who are speaking Spanish during public comment.
Who would like to use interpreter services. If you can, please raise your hands if you will need in turn but or services for Spanish. We will pull as we go through the meeting. I just wanted to get a sense and also for those needing span or Mandarin interpretation, services for public comment. Can please see a show of hands? Hands be raised but please know that temperatures will be available one hand. Thank you very much. Acknowledged. We will have interpreters ready when you come up to the podium. Lauren, just so, you know, and interpreters. We had one show of hands for Mandarin. And at this time, no hands identified for Spanish public commenters. In a move through the list people signed up. But you'll have one minute for public comment. We're going to start with Julia Stewart followed by Lynn, the and Joe Burrow's. So if you can make your way to the podium. And at the time a public comment, I'm going to turn it over to Lauren to provide interpreter services instructions, allure and you want to make that statement one more time. >> Thank so >> all right. And if we could. Interpreters, you would, let me know which one of you if they hope to be pulled over by raising your hand. >> Thank you. >> it's teacher is a able to come over. Thank you. Well, for those. Just joining the meeting live interpretation in Spanish and Mandarin is available. And members of the public or staff wishing to listen in either language. >> Can join those channels by clicking on the interpretation icon in the Zoom toolbar, it
looks like a glow. You're on your cell phone or tablet locate the 3 dots, top them lightly and put a check mark on your preferred language. Click done to activate and begin the interpretation. Won't you join either the Spanish or Mandarin Channel? We recommend you shut off the main audio. So only hear your preferred language. Additionally, we still have the headsets available. Ys for anybody who needs them in the chamber at the admin desk. Interpreters which restating in Spanish and mandarin >> t when asked at that and the lead in a to put that she was then and it's by no being. But actually they're going lead that you understood plan and I think he can another go at the back. You can stand up say just to put as soon is confident that the I spend mind that she sent citizens to live for us in a lot us with that. That put border. Did look at industries. Plenty discuss ended up at this will be dot each of But they and I don't pkg and needs to be given to put that in some of the spending that will compete in the heat this will defendants. Yeah. Let's put a specialist Dustin, unless I get in a statement that you in a spending on. But most have done it, then you should because it's been mistake to put the field goal to cut best just to the south going expect, you know, the significant that but that's going to and assisted asylum within a state. This will be is kind a single lets you send people They can listen on side. The furnace it Yes. Thank you. Back to you. >> Michael Hall, woman, pension of Hawaii, people see by eye. You hooked one of the 5 fool the Ukraine that ended up being with us. At the you'll to shut out to Saudi to eat appeal you. Could you can tiny bit. Okay to even
challenge and yen. The motion do that. I'd actually on the ship. So Hobley to have again just pay of those. Have you listen that the end to do that in the sun got the whole Kai going to potion me. And that yet it actual tn the hotel in trouble. Not you do that. A woman town to just me die. That's in addition, the yen up to probably won't be don't just come how the team came signee. Should. I sent there in who was 19 fighting for on new McCain dies in town of Old Party 19 finally pass the Senate. Thank you. Okay. We're going to move into speakers in the room. Start with Julia. >> Followed by Lynn than Joe. Julie, please make your way to the podium if you're not there already. >> Excuse me. Sorry to interrupt the ccc that temperature can you put me back in the Spanish Channel Place. Thank you. >> Yes, moving right over. All right, Julia, here you go. >> Julius Store and I'm here tonight as a mother from Rincon Valley. And as a woman and long-term recovery a few years ago, my son became addicted to synthetic marijuana. In my desperation, I reached out to peer and they responded immediately. My son was sick and he needed a safe place to recover. Tonight. I'm asking you not to become a community that says if your family is struggling with substance abuse, don't come here. Go somewhere else because I don't believe that's who we are. We can do better than that. We know who we can be in a crisis when fires devastated our community. We showed up for one another addiction is a fire burning through our families right now. And the answer isn't fewer resources. It's more. The next generation is
watching us. What do we want to teach them that we turn our people who are trying to get well or that would show up with compassion and courage. Addiction does not discriminate recovery. Shouldn't either this expansion doesn't threaten our community. It strengthens it. So tonight I'm asking to be the kind of city that chooses connection over fear of compassion or stigma. Our community in our kids lives depend on it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Julian. Next we'll go to Linden Show followed by Caitlin and Ben. >> Good evening. My name is wind output at all. Recently, my grandson, Robert began vaping marijuana Fellow students better call plugs, sell the oil to other students. Some are in the 6th grade. Soon. He was in the er with can avenue Lloyd. Hyperemesis syndrome. We desperately need more recovery beds in Santa Rosa, the caliber of per of the debt. Where patients can can continue rebuilding their lives and regain the trust of their loved ones. The counselors at per of the to show my grandson, kindness, compassion and respect. Dysfunction and addiction does not discriminate our communities are only as healthy as the people who live in them. That requires the best health care. As a mother and grandmother. I'm appealing to your sense of humanity. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Joe followed by Caitlin. Then Ben. >> Hello, my name is Joe Burrow's. I live on Mountain Hawk Drive neighborhood. Recently retired is parking over 25 years and community
development for a local city as a plans examiner. So I want to point out some things about building code issues. First of all, under California, Health and Safety Code Section 1, 3, 1, 3, 1, that no number of Tory persons means a person unable to leave a building, an assistant under emergency conditions includes any person who is unable or likely to be unable to physically and mentally respond to sensory signals approved by the state fire marshal or oral instructions related to fire danger, then also the location of this facility is in well in urban interface based on California. Well interface. Code 1.1, 3, which specifies the scope and which includes this type of a project. And then, of course, this is a residential care which also includes under definition of the California's code, which is a drug and alcohol rehab facility under California Code regulations tell 14 division 1.5. So >> thank you. The next speaker will be Caitlin, followed by Ben. Then Mary Ellen. >> Good evening. My name is Katelyn Parker and I'm a registered nurse. I want to start thanking the community for voice your concerns for taking the time. Here tonight. I've worked with cared recovery services for over a year. And I recently moved from Houston, Texas to Santa Rosa to serve this community and help make it safer. I'd like to address one of the main concerns safety, especially with school nearby. One of our facilities is also located about half a mile from
another school in over a year. We have never had any incidents involving students or the surrounding community. Our program is voluntary structured and closely supervised and a safety concern ever arises. We follow strict protocols. Addiction is not discriminate. It already exists in every community, including skyhawk. This project is not bringing a problem and it is addressing one that is already here. This project is compatible for this who feels uncertain are nervous. I want to be clear. We are part of the solution by providing safe structured and regulated care. We are actively reducing harm and helping individuals in the and your own community heal and recover. This project is not a threat to skyhawk. It is an investment in the safety and health of the community as a whole. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be been followed by Mary Ellen than Matt and David. And are you in the room? Ben, are you making your way to the podium? Can you give me a wave? So I know you're approaching. Ok? Thank you very much. So we're going to move on to Mary Ellen, followed by Matt been David. Mary Ellen area at the podium. I am. Okay. Thank you very much. Now I could see it. All right. There you go. >> All right. My name is Mary Lynn Whitten. I'm the co-founder of a nonprofit called Recovery Transportation Systems. And What we do partner with recovery centers like privy to. We've been together about 5 years now to make sure that their participants that have often lost their cars, their license, you know, they probably shouldn't be driving to make sure they have reliable and safe
transportation to get to any appointment that they might need. That's outside of recovery. You know, the dmv, the doctor, anything like that. And and I'm co-founder of this nonprofit because my daughter is addicted to fentanyl and she didn't set out to become an addict. She was in a car accident when she was 18 given a giant bottle of oxi. He's and then it was all downhill from there. So some of the other speakers talked about treating these folks with a lot of dignity and respect because there are people in here that are addicted to something we just don't know what. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be. That followed by David Van, Jose and Christina Matt, thank you. I >> Mine's not. I'm here to support this project. I want to address one thing in particular. This idea that this is this facility is not compatible with this neighborhood. A lot of you have come out here to say this, this sentiment and you know, I come from working for 12 years at the destination treatment model that I think a lot of you are championing here, saying that people should go away for treatment. They should go somewhere. That's remote and open and retreat like and I'm sorry that just serves the narrative that's keeping so many people in their addiction, which is that you should be ostracized and you should be isolated. And that's just not healthy. Our model works because it's rooted in community. People need To shrug off that stigma that this community puts on that many of whom are quite
literally wearing it on their sleeves. Tonight. This this is a model that has done good for this community and will continue to do so for years to come. So just wanted to say that. Thank you. Thank you. >> The next speaker will be David followed by Jose Christina and Eric. David, are you at the podium? All right. Thank you. Please. Go ahead. >> Good evening. My name is David Paul. I live about 400 feet from the proposed site and right next door to a recovery. Treatment home. I want to be clear that 6 bed facilities just right. Just write our concern. As with the proposed expansion to 24 beds frankly, I need to city Council. To protect the city's general plan. And I need the city Council to protect the neighborhood commercial zoning framework. Keep the neighborhood system in place. This 24 bid regional institutional hub just doesn't do that. And it places every other. >> Small. Strip mall that you call it at risk for being converted into something commercially. Viable. So approving this project would put those other some places at risk. And we want you to a poll this appeal. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Jose followed by Christina. Derek been Burton. >> Pierre, the recovery services game a true second
chance at life when they need it. The most. When I first arrived, the last overwhelmed and trapped in cycle alcohol use that I cannot see a way out. What I found there was something I hadn't felt in a long time. Safety not just physical safety but emotional safety, too. It was a place where I could finally be honest about my struggles without fear or judgment. And that made all the difference from the very beginning. This of created an environment, Golden trust, structural structure and genuine care. They met me where I was and help me to take small steps forward. And that's a place I was able to slowdown reflect and begin to understand the root of my challenge is for the first time in a long time, I felt like I could breathe. To those who have concerns about your view on our community. I would simply ask that you take a moment to understand the lives being changed inside walls. Places like this, don't take away from the community. They straighten that by helping people heal grow and we return as healthier, more responsible individuals. Everybody deserves a second chance in Pierre be the is a place where those second chances become real. >> Thank you. The next commenter will be Christina, followed by Derrick Burton. Christina. >> Hi, My name is Christine asked for a dime. The program director care. Be dumb. I stand here today in full support of our expansion. Every day I get to witness firsthand the impact that the quality of treatment and structured support can have on individuals struggling with
addiction. This work not just important. It's life-saving, expanding. Our services means increasing access to care for those who desperately need it. It means reaching individuals who MAY otherwise fall through the cracks. It means giving more people the opportunity to find recovery, building their lives and reconnecting with their families and communities. Addiction does not discriminate and the need for treatment continues to grow with this expansion. We're not just adding beds are programs. We are creating hope restoring dignity and saving lives. I'm proud to be part of organization that is committed to the mission. And I strongly support any effort that allows us to extend and reach that impact. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Derek followed by Burton, Peter and Brooke. >> Hi, my name is Derek. It's really amazing to see how a community can organize and come together for something that they're passionate about. I really just wish that it was directed supporting this treatment facility and the health and well-being of people that struggle with substance abuse. As the clinical director of Pura Vita Recovery Services Time, a part of a team that that vets and assesses whether a potential client is suitable for our level of care. So if that fear around, not. Is prevalent for you, just be mindful that that there are many people that put eyes on these clients before they come to our treatment center. It was rather disheartening to see on the
screen that we support treatment and support for people seeking recovery and then showing pictures of a cigarette b# # # and a beer bottle assigning that to those people. I really wish that we can bring this community together and support. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker will be Burton followed by Peter Brook and Richard. >> My name is Burton. Edwards. I'm here to express support for pure Vita and their mission. I am a father of 4 and a grandfather to 9. 2 of my children. And one of my grandchildren have develop substance dependencies. I do not believe. Any of them would be alive today without the wise and caring treatment provided by facilities such as Peru. Vita. My 18 year-old grandson came to via to about a year and a half ago. He was in trouble. Today. He thrives. Has become a successful college student. And has a future. Thank you to bend and math and all peer review I ask that the city Council denied the appeals. And uphold the decision of your planning commission and recommendations of your staff. Please vote to support the lives of those. Like my grandson. Thank you, Britain. >> The next speaker will be Peter followed by Brooke Richard and Emily. Peter, go ahead. >> Hello, my name is Peter Stack. And I live just about this guy, health community. And we the residential community, appreciate the assisting sick And rock recovery facility who are
strong to be concerned about the proposed. 44 bent. >> Facility, it's 300% expansion and it's the wrong project at the wrong place. But we 100% expansion a jury agrees that changes be made major function and character. The commercial center and its environment scam orning conflict. >> And the fact it's going to happen on the surrounding neighborhood. I don't believe this should be allowed to continue for this reason. I kind as to counsel to upheld. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Brooke, followed by Richard Emily and Bread. >> Nichols and I am the director of peer review detox. Something I want to address it immediately. And that is the question of all. Is there in need? You could read the press Democrat and see the need. People are dying from fentanyl overdoses. They are dying drunk driving accidents. There is there is very much in need in this county. I want call out something that I keep hearing from the Sky Hawk. People referencing their neighborhood, their businesses, their community. It's not your community. It's our community. Everyone in Santa Rosa is impacted by addiction where you live, how much you paid for your house where your kids go to school. None of that makes you or anyone else immune from this disease. I guarantee you all know someone whether you're aware of it yet or not, who
struggles with substance abuse to keep acting like you're opposing this to keep addiction away from your neighborhood and your families is just silly. It's already here. It's everywhere. We're not bringing it here. We're fighting it. We're trying our best to stop it from spreading if you care about your community, if you care about the health and safety of your loved ones. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Richard followed by Emily, Greg and Kathy. >> my name is Richard. We cannot ignore the lessons of copy park. Another wildfire disasters. The site sits in a high fire hazard severity zone with limited evacuation routes. The council must be able to see this project is not detrimental to public welfare. This is a 24 bed. None 6 now. But 24 residents with one way out of a narrow parking lot now living in dormitory style living on a second story suite with no verified evacuation plan. I do not see that finding can be made. The operation also requires transporting residents. Off-site for smoking day activities and that transportation as part of the projects, real intensity, a bus or multiple bands without loading unloading parking and circulation. A man's to a site that is already constrained. This is not just a traffic trapped traffic question. This is a physical suitability question for these reasons. I respectfully ask the council to uphold the appeal. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Emily followed by
Craig Kathy in dj. >> My name is Emily Radtke and i am a drug addict in recovery. So nice to see so many of my neighbors here tonight. I recognize many of your faces. I have been a resident of skyhawk for the past 26 years and I attended Austin Creek Elementary School. The very first year was opens of. >> Anybody to speak on this topic. I do believe I have that right. >> my daughter is also 5 years old now in ghost Austin Creek Elementary School. >> So the safety of these children that you're speaking about is my child. I serve on the school site council to ensure the safety of the campus. And still, I'm a drug addict in recovery. In a sea of all these hypotheticals. And what about what a drug addict is. I want you to see with your own eyes a face that you see every single day. This is what a drug addict is. And I am a contributing member of the Society of Sky Hop. I cannot leave my own home without being told that I don't belong in the neighborhood. I was raised in. Remember that the next time you talk about this. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker will be great, followed by Kathy dj. One moment. Grant 3 minutes. I just >> my name is Greg Corneas. I'm in favor of the therapy. The expansion. I believe they're great service to our community in Santa Rosa as a whole. I don't believe that the opponents have proved that this is not in the best interest for this city and its location. I just. I hope that you vote to approve the expansion and so they can carry on and help. Many were people in our community. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker
will be Kathy followed by d j. Then thing too. >> Hello, my name is Kathy Graham. Is it first? I support recovery programs. This is not opposition to rehab. This is an opposition. Start again, speak into the mic. This is end up. This is opposition to specific poorly designed highly high-density models in a neighborhood setting. That was designed for community use high stress, low privacy. Directly. Conflicts with excepted recovery, housing principles and increases the risk of relapse. This proposal places 24 individuals in recovery into 6 apartments with 12 shared bedrooms, 2 per room and only 2 small come, I'm sorry, common spaces. This is a direct change to residents style from the previous housing used by any reasonable standard. This is an overcrowded and inadequate configuration for a vulnerable population, supervision or basic liveability. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be dj, followed by seeing chew Ryan. And as you're approaching the podiums, please be sure that you are close to the microphones so we can hear you down in the bottom of the well as well as across the room. If you're not an comfortably close to the microphone, you're too far away. Dj. >> My name is dj from MISTER. And I am not Anti Rehab. What I am against are all the issues that are being overlooked or ignored in order to move this project forward. One primary issue is that this project changes the character and function of the shopping center. Skyhawk village was built to support local small
businesses and everyday services. If a neighborhood plaza like this can become a regional institutional hub and no neighborhood serving center in Santa Rosa is really protected. That is why it's not just a district. 3 issue. It is a citywide precedent issue. Every neighborhood deserves equal protection under the same zoning framework for these reasons. I respectfully ask the council to uphold the appeal the mayor earlier made a comment say why? And that's center that it was a business center for medical complex and it was run by a nonprofit, not a for-profit business. So I think there are differences there. Thank you. >> Thank Next, speaker will be seeing Choo followed by Ryan. Then Young and Mary Ann. >> Seeing challenge. It's not mine in all right. >> I know. Do you? How would you show? We tend to think of it will go into is to the show will good to Plus, heat win that you him. To the show. Most of the So suicide by Hugo Toby in the sun, you can from being Lee. She using that he going to be done to John be invading. She too. Could incite runs a when a food too 2000 that use on you to sing. Mending. They said the to Sega and in Seattle. So you go. Show we ecu most of the 2 meals in the toes Fooled us choosing Nanjing 2 about children association to and I and ii Sochi. So to me, jump and Ito said she so you you get to go Super Pink and will
MISS You listen to Coaches see could to see law. Was that young onto to entice those who said she's >> Thank you. I'd like to have Lauren ask the interpreter to move over to a main channel. Lauren. >> Willis, could one of you raise your hand so I can move you over to the main channel. Please. Ok, go ahead. >> In of under in temperature. So he gave a whole long speech. So I need it. When you speak a few sun. And this a consecutive and I can translate and the process, my throat really right This ok, thank you. Seem to end up bit phone and the sent. Can you please make your requests And need it up with much it the microphone. >> Do we have translated into English here? If you want to to take toughest? >> Thank you. One moment come up and grab What we You >> Council members, my name is seeing 2. I am from wing Rincon Valley and am I am concerned about the broader planning implications. This project converts a neighborhood serving commercial space into a regional institutional use. Once allowed this type of conversion could spread across the city. This is not just one project. It sets a precedent for future land use decisions at the same time the facility serves as a regional
population serves a regional population. Well, concentrating impacts on a local neighborhood. That imbalance is concerning. We need balanced planning, not concentrated in packs. Thank you. And thank you. You. The next public commenter will be Ryan followed by. I'm not sure how young and then Maryann and David. >> In a peer I am alive today. Thanks only to the treatment and support that received from privy to. I mentioned that only to get contacts from. I supported the expansion. I've been listening carefully to 9 to the opposition voice here. And it's clear to me that it all stems from a fundamental misunderstanding approve the to their services and their patients as a former PRESIDENT Of Peru, Vita Skyhawk location. I can tell you with experience that the assertions that purview to neglect their patients needs or that the site is unsuitable for expansion are categorically false. I just want to say that an expansion will have a negligible impact on the neighborhood. And I would personally invite purview to into my own neighborhood. The neighbors, my friends and the neighborhoods of my family. Thank >> Thank you. The next speaker will be young, followed by Mary Ann David and Jocelyn. >> Young, are you coming to the microphone? >> And if you need interpreters services, can you please? Raise your hand? Okay. I'm gonna move on to Marry. And David and Jocelyn. Marion go ahead. >> Hi, my name is Miriam
podium, retired sergeant for the Sheriff's Department. I want to talk about our children in our neighborhood. I walk through the neighborhood twice a day when I walk, I see young girls and boys walking to collings from which the calf the cafe that's underneath the proposed drug and alcohol facility with their sweet drinks and their treats. I ask how often do you think those parents will let those young children walk down a calling to get their treats knowing that 24 individuals are living on the second floor who have a drug and alcohol problem. These children are just beginning their lives. But the people up in the second floor have made their choice. Yes, understand the drug and alcohol is a disease. However, to help them, we should impose on our children in our neighborhood. Therefore, I vote for the drug and alcohol facilities, a vote against our children in our neighborhood, a vote against those young people's freedom. Again, if you vote for privy to facility, you are voting against our children. Their pleasure, their happiness. So think about that. When you cast your vote. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be David Joslin. And if Young has entered the room where the chamber please come make your way to the microphone. >> My name is David Shorts. I live in the Sky Heart neighborhood and there's no doubt that pure Vita Services are needed in Santa Rosa. But I have not heard an argument that makes the skyhawk area any sense. And 2 things that not been discussed in 2 hearings within 100 feet of
the proposed side is a restaurant with a full bar. Within a half mile or 2 marijuana dispensaries. And numerous opportunities to buy alcohol. The convenience stores. Up and down Highway 12 in median strips or pan handlers begging for money. And selling flowers and it appears the city's nothing not doing anything about it. In front of the frontage road of skyhawk with proposed cars are stacked up every day with for sale signs. And the city's not doing anything about it. So the blight of the area is the issue. It's not the issue of in need. So I say no, please, thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be just followed by windy and Anastasia. >> to just to make you know, okay, wonderful. >> You. We do have a need for interpretation. Are you available to provide interpretation services for? >> Are either my mandarin interpreters available for interpretation? You could raise your hand, please. Kcal had. >> mean to wasn't and that he knew down, you know, to tease out a whole. Team uk should could cause you >> reach a point. >> Go uci Hall. >> every come so member. >> The musical bn. >> My name's a goal of the u n. >> So you so you mean more sure. >> As a priest well maintained those values. She opens with her and we >> So I'm I as a priest. So I
do the same thing as those people need it every day. >> Or take on Chacon, full >> I sincerely support rehab service. >> Indeed. There some comes with The petitioner out. Needed to comes with a e. >> Also understand the meaning of this work. >> quite quite be. She comes into motion. >> care must speak. Keep the same space as >> by one estimate so care and that fair must working along. >> Well, then put on teach you from >> we can out no sun up some policy in certain area. >> Our thanks. Also to young coaches, human. >> And then beam our streak in some hotter air >> Folds up with him to shoot up competing. >> Otherwise it's not own a and fair to death community. >> We showed a lot to build a commission. The >> also reduced fairness of the system. >> on the bonds will put achievement when we. >> The real the real help is not just providing the findings. >> City. When you go, you'll be up for the quarantine. >> But also, you know, Martin part provide even Marmont. It would come here to for every car. Murray. Now. >> What you get. But people push or toll can >> so use the location itself is not suitable. So this kind of help is not real help. >> She should. Thank you. The next speaker will be just followed by Yan windy and Anastasia. >> Can you in to provide
Channel? >> Yes, we will move you. We would do have a number of other interpreter need for Mandarin upcoming commenters is Willis on the line to be of assistance. Also. Justin, please go ahead. >> Good evening, Honorable Council. My name is Justin w# # # . Historically Santa Rosa is currently considered a high-risk fire hazard zone. And California leads the country with an average of over 8,000 wildfires per year with the largest single fire directly causing 85 deaths. 95% of these fires are caused by people and smoking is one of the largest contributors to this statistic. In addition, smoking prevalence in California's residential treatment programs is at a high of 68.9%, although supervised by a worker patients are adults with will and accidents will inevitably happen. The pair of you, the expansion poses a threat to our community because in patients do not have a safe smoking space in this high-risk area, the numbers don't lie. The death risk outweighs the expansion of a single facility for this reason. I was effectively asked council to uphold the appeal. Thank you. >> The next speaker will be the end laying followed by Wendy and Anastasia. >> Good Evening. My name is e anyhow. I am a registered nurse Morrow Hospital a planning commissioner asked whether any study the most jaded the need for a 24 benefits. City tea at the
location so far now was shown at the same time statements during the showing show here in that most of Klein's come from the broader be area including cinema and the counties. That means that this is not a really a neighborhood. The serving Hughes. It isn't reason use the place the into a local neighborhood. The center, the cd is agreeing to approve a four-fold expansion of these kind. The Vatican issued least prove why the side and the skill are justified for these reasons. I respectfully ask the council to uphold the Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker will be windy, followed by Anastasia Mike and Shalom. >> Windy. Go ahead. Hi, Good City Council members. My name is Wendy Shun. A sky helped PRESIDENT. >> I'm here express my concern about the proposed expansion of Carolina and its impact on the quality of life in the neighborhood. The prior who it was stated that they have been no police report rooted to the related to the facility. However, the absence of police reports those I'm news. There's no issues. Many neighbors do not call the police for everyday concerns such as smoking. The knee during our disturbances, expanding from 6 but to 20 for bad will increase this impact. And please, additional strains on the neighborhood. We should rely police into motion as the primary solution. Use that city. Plenty should consider more suitable location where appropriate outcome better
services client. We actively affecting the nearby residents. I respectfully ask the city Council to uphold the appeal. We are counting on your account for consideration. Thank you. The next commenter will be Anastasia followed by Mike Show-Me and an >> my name a I a family medicine doctor. I have worked on and off patients with addiction and dependence. The vaccine can be very challenging, complicated. And then dris and withdrawals can be life threatening. And as much as we need centers that help people with addiction, I honestly do not believe that Sky had a village is the appropriate place for it. Sky have a village is not located anywhere close to any large medical facility and transporting patients in an emergency might be their the interest of nation and to them and the neighborhood. I also believe that in addition to the there's a restaurant with a bar and outside patio and this is not a great environment for Whoever wants to be so great to be there. Francois privy to is doing the math, really expanding anything course. So they think 3 facilities and the war on them. So I do not see how it's actually adding that many Betts to to the problem of glycol free help centers. >> Thank you. The next public commenter will be Mike followed by Shalom. And and Dave. Mike, go ahead. >> my name is Mike Rockford live in Sky Hawk. I'd like to point out this is a business decision. This is consolidating existing facilities and the one with a negligible getting and beds. This is a regional center with the applicant stating at the last meeting, but they're bringing people from Marin
County, Sacramento, San Jose. Our neighborhood doesn't have this need. We might have the need for a couple people which is totally fine. We don't need 24 beds, MR. Mayor, she said the city needs these beds. This is a commercial neighborhood shopping center. Our neighborhood does not need these beds. 6 Pence is great. There was I feel the city officials have misled There was an attack ad. One of the other facilities where a client would not stop attacking one of the employees. The fire department is just changing the designation very suddenly. I sent an e-mail in great detail about the over concentration of facilities, which I think is probably the strongest argument and I urge you to uphold the Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Show-Me followed by then days. >> Hi, everyone. My name is Cent and I'm asking Creek elementary school. >> Please be sure you're close to the microphone. Thank you. >> Everyone. My name is Senate and the 4th grade at Austin Creek Elementary School. I walk to school my friend and I want to tell you, I'm scared about the big drug center going. They going at home. This isn't a lockdown place when people have stay. I think this is lockdown place where people have to stand side. The owner said good that's in the program can just walk out whenever they want. Even doctors say no, that means changes could be walking around our neighborhood all alone with no one watching them. But if they come, your houses are to the patent school. You my fans MAY not feel safe. Walking outside.
Are walking to class. Please don't the center get a team? I didn't think about us. Kids keep us keep neighborhoods safe so you can walk to school happily. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be and followed by Pamela and Owen. >> How awesome is that to hear from young people that have an opinion and civic matters? I think that's super cool. My name is Anne Brown and I live in the neighborhood. We moved here 3 years ago and I kids at Austin Creek and creo we chose to live in Skyhawk United our Sky neighborhood specifically because it was a complete neighborhood, meaning it had housing parks, walkable school and commercial space that serves the community. Our little kids walk to school are big kids walk to the gym and we frequent the coffee shop and a restaurant together as a family. We're utilizing the community resources as it was originally planned by the city and as is intended to be used, the welcoming sense of the community, the safety, I think would suffer if this institution was allowed to expand because they are consolidating not because they're actually adding more beds to the services they provide. Recovery services are super important. And I applaud for all the good that they're doing it. So many supporters here. And obviously what they're doing is really, really him to our community. But this isn't about providing or not providing services. This is about consolidation for them. And that's just not the right use of space. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be day followed by Pamela Owen and Nathan. They've go ahead. >> Hello, my name's Dave
Williamson and I fully support the need for drug addicts. I've been supporting them for 15 years in every way possible. Taking them to rehab. Senators in providing all that their needs. But this proposal is severely flawed because it doesn't take consideration of the venue can you is completely wrong? And these people are under temptation when they really come down the stairs in the sea. And they see that the bar right there. And that's not fair for these people to do that to them. Here is the answer that everybody needs to be aware of. Support the people, but in the public. These people need to have a place where private for them and place a com slash. I provided opportunity for Pura Vida to 3 times less expensive. Proposal and they didn't even listen to what I had to say. Please go to Tony. >> thank you. The next public commenter will be Pamela, followed and Nathan and Desiree. Pamela, please make your way to the podium. Okay. I'm not seeing Pamela make any moves. How when Nathan in Deseret? >> I my name is Owen Brown. I'm 17 year-old high school junior. I want to focus on the quality of life impact on families and children in the area. This is not a lockdown facility. It is near a school near a park and neighbor several establishments. This proposal changes traffic neighborhood, character safety and the overall quality of life for nearby residents. I personally walk or ride my bike to anytime fitness in Starkville. It weekly. I'm concerned for the impacts and safety posed by having such a facility in Skyhawk village within my own day-to-day life at the location and for all other members of our
neighborhood community who like me, enjoy easy and safe accessibility of the establishments within. I do not believe that the proposals level of impact is compatible with this location for these reasons. Respectfully ask the council to uphold our appeal. >> Thank And the next speaker will be Pamela, followed by Nathan, Desiree and Bay Bay. Pamela. All right, we'll circle back. Nathan. Desiree, if you are on your way, please make your way to the podium. Police anything >> I'm in a school bus driver for a Wise County transportation. And I've seen. Some bus stops, just not work out around the similar circumstance. So if the transit stop in front of colleagues are across the street currently used for a bus stop to please change Know that has to be okay with the superintendent, but it would. I have personally experienced passenger who didn't want to interact with the parent who is going through the same situation to Joe Rehab. And it was just his or her desire to to be separated from his parents in. I know it's hard for children to see their parent go through this. So please consider the children who go to school in the area who walk, ride the bus get that stop changed. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Desiree followed by Bay Bay and Wow, a >> there is a quote from Game of Thrones said by Jon Snow that everything said before
the word but is a load horse poo And I think that is a common theme for tonight. We're ok with recovery. But not Not things that I had to get out. Good evening, the center of the City Council thank you for taking the time to hear public comment tonight. Thank you to the clerks and staff. I am one of you. I am a city employee as well. And I know that you've probably been working since early this morning and will be here late tonight. I am also a person that 8 years ago you would not have wanted in your community. I am somebody. That is in recovery and I intended residential treatment and a big beautiful house in the middle of a beautiful neighborhood. And it was life changing and I just wanted to come here to say that recovery belongs in community. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker will be Bay Bay followed by. >> Blow been. And Justin. If they go ahead. >> Good evening. Sure and commissioners, my name is baby and I respectfully oppose the proposed. 24 band expansion Skyhawk Plaza. If I remember Nick said previously that there were no complaints and there is no evidence of traffic with safety problems on highway 12, but many quiet residents like me simply don't know how to or where to complain. And some have already going to the plaza instead of finding former reports just a few weeks ago,
I turned right from our neighborhood onto Highway 12 and saw a man who clearly appeared to be under the influence running across the road towards Skyhawk Skyhawk Plaza. I had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting him. It was extremely dangerous. He looked to Dre and it does oriented with glazed eyes and little awareness judgment of surroundings. This kind of near MISS Does not show up in their know complains statistics, but it does exactly the kind of safety risk neighbors already. Thank you. The next speaker will be. >> I mean, a call for Pamela Harder. One more time. Glob in and Justin. All right. Pam level move Robin. Justin. Justin. Thank you. Please go ahead. >> Hello, my name is Justin and I don't work with her to beat it. But I do the gentleman that started that business we met in recovery. And when they bought that I moved in shortly thereafter. So I am a member of the Mountain Park community and I 2 doors down from the 6 bed. Facility right now. I've never heard any commotion. I rarely see the people except when I'm in 12 step meetings and I see people that attended there. Facility and then I see them in recovery and staying sober. You know, minus all the stuff we've heard tonight. The core issue is that this business is helping people get and stay sober and we need more of that
everywhere. So thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Robin followed by Pamela McGuire. Then way she won. Robin. Move along Pamela McGuire. All right. How about waste? One? One moment where we get the interpreter in place. Lauren, can you please help with the interpreter? >> We're moving well. It's over now. Thank you. Moment. Please was going be filed. That's the idea that you didn't. >> an innocent And my name Bill phone and from. >> White House will shame people into it. A huge issue in that she had the yet. >> Yes, I would like to put my $0.2 This a chance out what to But I don't to ensure that the ocean stender of the process. >> He is South Campbell. >> She you shoot your >> She's a shout-out to as you fall for how you it, too. >> Well, to its project console that what actually prove its compatibility, well as a safety hazard. >> just finding beyond me. Uses fresh are finding toy. She'll. >> And this kind of the standard should be applied to the city wise. >> Are pushing Yankees hoop with or tension tiny. >> That depending on the thing that and that there is discrepancy. >> want to get to all? Yeah said Jed, you will find Pete Holding >> If those so those requirements are not the full beam at here. >> Not Monday's. The sound
says she keys to it. Yep. Bp today. >> So those a similar project should be approved in other areas as well. >> Fawaz, a the ovaries yoshi's you cool seeing >> otherwise the standard of the process will its credibility. >> Survey we while we have that cook don't yet the cbr. >> And other one. For the more that the planning Commission, the voting the result, it's 4 to 2. >> That the gay is a share and roofing. See it. >> So that means that there are still the discrepancy that in such a project. >> you got to see it, Wayne, what I I >> Now the clear vision. What visionary decision. Thank you. >> The next public commenter will be. Followed by a chilly. And Pamela. >> So he wasn't quite bins only truly. And the panel. >> Go to uni. Yes, I think of that name Ronald. I MAY show the previous peak. >> Just it. But the lady who was speaking to is actually the way Sharon. >> Well, >> Lady Justice vocal we So I'm >> not the vocation. >> So the word was it misplace of what this lady who was who is speaking right now? It's way show Shea and the well-being was actually the previous leader spoke. >> ok, thank you. Good evening. My name Shah. Sure. Based on the impact be open as soon in the presentation some of the men to open tennis. The consent is not just a part of it at 10 0 paid a 240 bed
facility. And that needs this expected to stand as full a 6 but a pretty the support of the company. So is and we will come quantified up. Why this? Casey's, however, they need all played to this possibility. And then back to the Simon Community. Sinema site is known as a great place to live in tile. Imagine a future people can know, run the fine, neighborhood that they feel comfortable mean to. >> Because going to pick suitable placement and impacts. Watch what is and then also become the s and the cons amend the U.S.. You have the vision to make us a number up teaches sets spent a we here to support of mission. We you to uphold the pia and to deny the Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker will be Pamela. Maguire. All right. We'll move on to Terry, followed by Mike of and Michelle. Thank you. Go ahead. >> Good Evening Council. My name is Terry Griffin. As a city that enjoys economic benefits from the production and sale of alcohol and cannabis. We owe it to our community to also recognize and address the harmful public health consequences of the psychoactive substances. Secondly, one of the greatest barriers to treatment is public statement. Addiction thrives in isolation, secrecy and shame and false beliefs and negative attitudes about people with addiction affect their ability to help find help and recover my loved one was here earlier to speak and
he left for this reason. Every neighborhood in Santa Rosa deserves to be a place where residents feel safe and thrive. Treatment centers save lives, heal families and provide vital services to our community. I would gladly welcome a treatment center in my neighborhood rather than another Candy themed cannabis dispensary. 10 minutes from my local high school. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be. Mainly followed by Micah Michelle. Good evening. My name is cleaning with Allen. A Sky Hook residents with 2 children. >> Austin Creek Elementary School Sky Hawk was the plan as a complete community with properties, school parks and a small shopping center. So local families that's Benton's is intentional. And then some seeing we rely on. Proposed expansion deeply concerning because they to shift skyhawk shopping center from residential to institutional use residential addictions, treatment and recovery for us. It is hate does not align with the intent of the residential character, this neighborhood. It's a progression from of the 9 to 20 full bad proposal, 2, 6, past. And now back to 20 full feels like a gradual erosion of range. Innovation. This is about protecting housing, supporting families and the preserving our community. I respectfully ask you to the 96 pension. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker will be Micah followed by Michele and then. >> kg >> Larry, my son died from fentanyl overdose right here in Santa Rosa. I'm also the co-founder of Micah Sides. A
local nonprofit dedicated to fentanyl awareness, education, Narcan distribution and recovery support across Sonoma County, we partner with parodied on many projects in the community. I am here today to speak in full support. A pair of you just request to expand beds at their Mountain Hawk location. I understand some neighbors have concerns, but the data and our daily experience show the opposite of those periods. Communities with access to treatment. And so we're living resources, experience lower crimes. If you're overdoses and greater stability. National study confirms neighborhoods with license recovery facility show no rise in crime or property loss. The clients here at location will be all here voluntarily because they want to improve their lives and the lives of the people around them. They are not desirable Ys and they deserve our support and our respect. I would be proud to have the the neighbor, apparently the location. And think we should all feel the same way on behalf of Micah's hugs and the many families we serve. I urge you to approve this permit and let Santa Rosa community is continue with compassion, evidence and hope. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Michelle followed by kg Khan and Jenna. Michelle, go ahead. >> Good evening. I'm Michelle Sawyer, the other co-founder of Micah's ag's. The issues people are concerned about substance use overdose and mental health challenges are already present in every part of our community. The project is not introduce those issues. Revises structures, structures, supervised
environment to address them. No community is immune to the struggles. Every neighborhood is affected in some ways whether it's visible or not. Exactly why services like this need to exist within communities because that's how they actually make a difference. That's how this serve skyhawk. And I think part of what we're hearing tonight reflects a broader mindset that these services should exist just somewhere else. If every community takes that position than the solutions don't exist, anywhere, there are any issues happening in our community that pose far greater risk to safety and well being the difference is this protective. This project is actually working to address them, not ignore them. The problem is already here. The question is whether we allow solutions to be here, too. I respectfully. Ask that you deny the appeal and uphold the approval. Thank you for your time. Thank you. The next speaker will be. >> on followed by Janet David and Susie. >> Yeah, hall. No one could. Yeah. Him One moment while we get the interpreter in place, please. Lauren, can you please facilitate the interpreter? >> I'm moving well. It's over now. Ready to go o Please go ahead. >> and how to Hunt could likes of Miley. >> Every members, my name is Khan could shed from repayment of Valley. >> Daniel was on dine down with the Shield. Michael Patchy was since the deadly flaw. >> Today I want to talk about my roommate, Michael Vick and he or she is up in the 4 times in a recovery center.
>> you might have what to able >> He or she did kids. That's sick with what he's Kiss court heard experience the from the Recovery Center in living and to my home. >> Sure. Bounce that had come don't time. Yeah. >> shared that looked just best normal person. >> Mustn't playing Todd. Let lie. >> We've given him heard a warm welcome to stay with us. >> woman to do he was like you. >> When they have I have a good knowledge of bell, but not Catholic. >> headed up fund that zoning. >> Initially that we can not know that he was placed his items into the refrigerator. >> I says in a new eye to tell, know, that heavy, not you >> My three-year-old daughter often opened only for aj to drinks. >> Put that it had south on. see the >> He as she that brought his or her friends and smoking in the room. >> Humans that we go fund silly. You 20 seat. Home woman hands shop. Well, there's once and a man and you a peep. It make ends to add that we've got new sound pool. >> Because the we're all under the symbol and also the year the circulations, every single the next morning, my husband and including our three-year on 3 year-old daughter often feel extremely fatigued. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Jenna, followed by David Susie and Stella. Jen, are you in the room? I will
circle back to Jenna in case she's out in the courtyard. Susie Stella Roland. >> know. So she courtyard go bold. >> Suze, go ahead. Council. My name is Susie Marie. I was the supervising planner for current development don't even know that when I retired last year. >> After 19 years of service with the city the day, Alex, the applicant came into planning and economic development to inquire about permitting requirements to operate. A community could care facility for the addicted. I joined planner best slot at the counter. It was my opinion then and still is that this use in this location are a perfect fit. Grounds for appeal question. The uses compatibility. With nearby low density residential uses community care facilities are permitted in all residential districts by right? We're through the approval of minor conditional use permit. As mentioned in the staff report, Alex has been operating a 6 but facility for 3 plus years without incident. This is a residential Its previously occupied by apartments. How is that not compatible? I can't thank >> Thank you. The next speaker will be David followed by Stella Roland and David, are you in the room? >> Thank you, David. It's good evening. My name is David Wharton and I fully support the expansion review to I have lived in the community of Santa Rosa for a long time.
I've been sober for over 41 years. 35 years of that here Santa Rosa. I have seen a lot of recovery facilities coming. Go close, open mov and of all the facilities that I have been. Affiliated with or have experience with peer view to is the finest wanted just the best run. They also host a meeting at their Cleveland a meeting that he's been in the county in in Santa Rosa for many decades. And that is the current home of that particular meeting. And also like to say as far see yellows, serving alcohol and heading for the 2. There, downed aluminum. There is the along a club which is right next to a very sleazy bar and they're both doing fine. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Stella followed by Roland in Shirley. >> Hi, everybody. My fear is that when people limit projects like this to only fitting their own personal preference. The decision an opportunity to receive cares then decided by them, not the person who is seeking that care. I don't think any of us have the right to decide where and when individuals receive or seek care, I could give you some statistics that would suggest your zip code alone has suffered a double digit number of deaths related to behavior and mental health substance abuse as well. Hopefully that dispels any question about community service. In the interest of in biased factual decision. It has been established that this purpose falls with in the land use parameters purity that has presented proper assurance from the medical community that the level one definition of care that will be taking place is also within the
parameters of use. After all of that, the only reservations and concerns leftover have to do with a small-minded personal opinion. That is one discriminatory and 2 based on a made up idea that this will somehow change the purpose of these already residential units. Thank you. The next speaker will be Roland, followed by cheating and >> surely. >> My name's Roland and I'm a father, husband and the resident in this project appears to cough consulate com follow 5 from other for think tanks rather meaningful that you find Capote, State. Not means white neighborhoods came You can well. Other neighborhoods MAY move coming in the 2 small there for the planning distribute the whenever possible it doesn't concentrate impact into a single neighborhood. Well, we do think how many elsewhere this is not only the street, 3 issue and a fact how treatment if street with a that across the same thing for these reasons. I respectfully off to the council hold appeal. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Shane followed by surely Michael and >> So good evening. My name is Jean. She and the PRESIDENT Skyhawk. So I was touched by the stories. The supporters of Pili have told and I realized that the drug issue become so significant in Santa Rosa. I have 2 questions to purely the and the supporters to Carolina. Are you closing other side consolidate best of one side? Why here is this expansion of business to save more people will just for Casa
saving her peers. What does that mean to the patient Residen the Enron other places in Santa Rosa? 2 to supporters. You didn't say where you live. Do you prefer side your neighborhood rather have you'll be love the children or grandchildren being transferred to this commercial based on highway 12? Well, the residents here have brought up so many concerns on its safety and convenience. These also questions to the council members here. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be surely followed by Michael and meeting. >> Good evening, everyone. My name is charity. I would like to a year all the city. Love the City council. Where do you live? Your next door some addiction facility. You think property value going to As a j# # no More than me to believe. How important have recover facility. It's very important. 24 bed and move to skyhawk. So it was a very big as we all know, Sky hopes that of the best neighborhood in Santa Rosa. So here Moscow, the funders, all the owners of facility, why all 20 full said it was a have many other location. Is this a profit driven? I know a lot of facility with the very high charges filed issue for the facility. So please, for my Thank you. The next speaker will be Michael followed by in. >> Michael, please go ahead. >> Hi there. My name is Michael. I live here in Santa
Rosa and I spoke earlier about the need for alternatives to police and that includes 4. >> Folks are? >> They have addiction issues. It's really important that they have places to go. I knew someone who was going to domestic violence on the street and we called a domestic violence shelter together and they said, are you a user? And she said yes. And they said, well, then you can't come here. You need to go to an addiction treatment center. First, then you can come to a domestic violence shelter. So she had to put her in the position of having to choose him. I going to fight this addiction, which was deeply based on the trauma of her situation, which is a huge decision to make versus am I gonna go back to my abuser and that's unacceptable. And I'm hearing a lot of arguments about property values. And I don't think that those types of arguments should be a factor here. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be and if there's anyone else wishing to provide public comment on item 16.1, line up at the microphones and please recall that we have both at podiums available for public comment. Please go ahead. >> How >> My name is Yang Zahn and I've been a resident Skyhawk 2017. >> I would like to speak strongly against to the expansion of the addiction recovery program at Sky Hawk damage. I like to echo what some my fellow resident has said about the opinion. And
addition, I like to point out. At a public hearing last NOVEMBER, I was here for that hearing and a picture of it. I reviewed that plan to close some of that residential programs elsewhere in the city and a consolidated them into this 24 bed facility while we might praise what covid has done people in need. We also wonder whether this decision to expand at Skyhawk Village is a business decision driven by cost saving and by profit. Anyway, I like to respectfully ask City Council is to uphold the Thank you. Thank you. >> All right. The next speaker, please go ahead, Fred. >> I would like encourage council to deny both appeals and support the project. If you take the list of arguments against this project of property values, character, fire, evacuation, intensity compatibility, scale parking congestion, graffiti crime. Those are exact same list against almost every project. So with those same reasons you want to be able to do anything in the city. I like to encourage the council to keep in mind the parable of the Good Samaritan. And that you want to be compassionate to people who were down. And as far as the fire evacuation arguments go, this is not 2017, again. Police and fire are well organized and ready to manage and evacuations. So so that the fears that are based on what it was like 2017 are no longer valid. And I really resent the villains. Ation of 5 people in recovery. And I think that's really necessary. And I think the decision is clear. Thank you. >> Thank u next Speaker. Janice, go ahead. Thank Janice
Karman. This isn't about no empathy or a new understanding. We're feeling bad because people having addiction problems are not feeling bad about it. >> That has nothing to do with that. It has to do with the location. The Situation. >> Highway 12 runs right by it is been no mention of highway 12. I was at the city meeting last night. There was supposed to be at Burger Center in Oak Lawn. It turned out when I got there. There nobody there. You had to tell people to go to West Wing and go to a different place. We went to a different place. The seeding was so bad to see the site that you're on the same parallel and the screen was here and you can see anything and people were talking for way over there. It says about the fires and the fires are a real threat to everyone. And Mary knows this. We all know I was evacuated twice. Both the glass fire and the other I can't think of it right now, but it's about the fires in Oakmont has been begging for help for a long time. And you know, it. >> Thank you. All right. Moment. I do one moment. Hello. You're reading yet. >> Hello, my name is doing to it. Respiratory therapist from Roseland. >> 50 years after being an emt in an Army medic. No smoking anywhere is the best policy everywhere I would like to have. You know that over and rose and we have turning point. We have Dak you can start with the alternative mitigations at this site and
saw a lot of these concerns here. What works in Roseland can work in rich and wealthy places have mercy all over the city in the face then the opposition. It's okay to have courage uphold the Planning Commission decision. Do alternative mitigations allow for these people to get their lives in order and we'll all be better off in the long haul. I think tonight we've basically seen this is an opportunity for all of us to help anyone who might be in need, especially if you've got Christian values. Thank you kindly yet. >> Thank you. Is anyone else wishing to provide public comment on item? 16.1 that has not already provided comment. Mayor, I'm just giving it a moment to see if anybody comes best in through the doors from the courtyard. I thought that was joined. You might've. All Arab turn it back to you. Alright, MADAM City Clerk, thank you very much. That that was our longest public comment quite awhile. Thank you again, to all the folks Skyhawk across the city whose who turned out for this item. >> a very good discussion and let's continue it now because we have a chance to hear from the applicant MR. Ward now has 3 minutes to provide every battle are additional information. Alex. The floor is yours. >> I wanted to take a minute to go back Councilmember Rogers, I want to answer the first question that you asked about clients going off site a little more. Clearly, I was kind of nervous because I thought I was going to take questions at the end and I wasn't ready to jump right back in. But the clients when clients to go off site for activities, they're
transported in vans by staff, which means that one van making 2 trips or 2 vans making one trip will be able to transport all of the clients. Clients to leave the site regularly. As part of their regular treatment under our our new operation, this will be to receive programming at our other more rural site a few miles away. Combined with the fact that our proposed staff parking plan has all shift staff parking on and ample public parking on Highway 12 traffic to the parking lot will be drastically reduced from our current use, which has our existence expect facility and 4 other residential tenants in the apartments up there. They all have at least one car, if not in the parking lot. I also wanted to you invite our medical director to come clear up the medical versus non medical or clinical verse nonclinical nature of our operation. >> Thank you. And as you approach the microphone, please be sure you are an comfortably close to the mic so we can pick you up down here. The audio picks up on the recording. But down here is a little hard to hear your counterpart. Thank you. >> Can everyone hear me? Okay. Perfect. Good evening. Thanks for having Rob Fountain the physician and medical director of peer review, recovery Service. >> Emergency medicine, critical care, medicine physician, as well as a retired Air force, critical care physician as well of 21 years of active duty service. And I'm a veteran. And so I'm here to clear of the medical versus non medical issue at pure Vita, we treat clients attempting to recover from addiction in a residential setting. That should not be confused with an inpatient setting, which would imply setting of the medical nature residential ones in which
clients of fully capable of all the activities of daily living, even at the detox level of care. Because I know that was brought up earlier when it comes to fire evacuation. How compliance selfie think evacuate with this is how they can all can for themselves in ambulance to ensure that clients meets the requirements undergo regular screening in admissions process. And if at any time doing this it my determine that a patient needs a high level of care that fared elsewhere. My role as medical directive to provide incidental medical services in accordance with dh cs guidelines to ensure patients can thrive safely in the residential level of care plans to put up your view, do not receive any medical treatment at this facility. All of the aspects of the program administered by non medical personnel in the event that a client needs medical intervention do transported to a medical facility for details of a specific health and safety code sections. Please see the attached letter. I'm happy to answer any questions. >> Thank you. Pierre will not what we will now go to the appellants rebuttal comments. I will start actually with a skyhawk United. Dr Chan is that you once again there you go, David, got the floor. >> Mayo Staff and council. Applicant has spoken at about critical need for bats. Let's look at their testimony. >> They are. >> Closing odds of facilities
across rules on to consolidate at this location. A response to neighborhood need. It is a business consolidation strategy. They have admitted underground that they have no data to prove a need for 20 full site. Become. So I'm not making fun to see on compatibility based on the business plan. The place local. So plaza a regional institutional hot. Applicant's solution for smoking is primary example. Why this site? For details funding the. They proposed of ending all bossing patients to other facilities just to smoke. The facility it is so physically constrained that you also patients offside behavioral need out of sight. By definition is not suitable. This proposal the patient dignity and increases the matter traffic impacts. They claimed all negligible we heard promises of 0 impact we have shown to you to all the lies. Secret butts. This isn't about lack of intimacy. It's about reality. The the the independence of one that is provided from their own commercial attendance. Was their landlord. The applicant has a financial relationship. Was those businesses that do running mates then as community consensus. We must
address the safety of the patients themselves. Proving plentiful have individual on the second story of a high flow is dangerous. They're full, please hold and the 9 to put meat. >> Thank you, David. It will also hear a rebuttal from carlstrom. Aaron. Go ahead. >> I have just a couple of points to raise and rebuttal to the applicants project. They have, of course, already had a chance to rebut our application. >> returning to process irregularities and inconsistencies that lead to an insufficient finding and lack of evidence on the record. >> The applicant represents that this project is compatible with the underlying zoning. We would ask respectfully does the record reflect that? And if so, why then? Was the project site required to be rezoned just last month. Secondly, with respect to the representations that appropriate findings and substantial evidence exist, that wildfire risks have been properly analyze and or mitigated which is required under seaquest. It's my understanding that while the applicant or excuse me, you heard Fire Chief Lowenthal represent that the project site will be recommended to be removed from the we are the wildland urban interface. Was that a request of the developer? We like that addressed within the record or is that a policy being dictated by the citizens? It is our position that wildfire risks have not been analyzed, have not been mitigated within the framework. And finally,
just a personal note, as someone who's worked in and around development here in Santa Rosa, including in your seats as a planning commissioner and on both sides land use projects. I have never heard project applicant and developer so blatantly threatened the neighbors and the neighborhood into which he wants to respond advance and increase his operations. And if that is at all indicative of the matter in which this applicant, this project at this site is going to respond to the concerns of the neighbors. The council need to take that into consideration. And we hope, please that if you are inclined to move forward with approval tonight, which of course, we hope you do not please, thanks. Consider implementing the alternative mitigation components that our clients have submitted for your consideration. Thank you. Thank you, MISS Carlstrom. And with that. >> We're going to close the public hearing and bring it back to council for additional questions of staff or the applicant repellent. Looking down the row. Funding. >> Thank you lead. And they've gathered this information for I did want to ask about the total number of beds. The pair of you operating because one of the things confused about is it an expansion or is it a consolidation? So >> From what we heard from the the applicant and they can clarify it sounds like they're consolidating their existing locations into this particular location. This particular location does have approval for us expect facility and it would be expanded to a total of 24 beds. >> We could to the applicant
just to confirm that Alex. >> when I said consolidation we're trying to consolidate the number of facilities we operate, but we will be expanding the total number of beds from 18 to 24. So we'll have 24 beds in one facility rather than 18 3. That makes sense Thank you. >> Ben Willows. Actually that was one of the questions I had he heard consolidation a lot tonight. >> The other question I had actually is for staff as far as the minor. Conditional use permit. Is there just remind me if there >> is a time limit on that or is it well, indefinite are or how would it work? So conditionally is from his run with the land. So it would remain with the until it unless it is rescinded for some reason or if the eu's changes and they get a new use permit. Ok? So then how? Because I think it's been the other point that's been made, particularly by the upon is that I think it was both c and d think those are the 2 that they feel have not been met. How do you all They have been met? So they are that the staff's findings, which are supported by what the planning Commission did are outlined in the draft resolution. That's before happy to go through them in just detail Reflate just briefly. So finding see is that the design location not reading characteristics of the proposed activity would be compatible with it existing and future land use is in the vicinity. So what staff in the planning commission found was
that. So is the commute care facilities is planning to occupy 7 existing residential apartment units within a multi tenant commercial and mixed use building. The it is the project was designed to be a mixed use project with both residential and commercial it is not located within the low density residential neighborhoods. It's on a commercial site zone for mixed use for commercial residential. It's physically separated from the near single-family residential property by Sky Cree excuse me, Sky Hawk Creek in Park. We also found the general plan 2050 describes community care facilities among other uses as compatible accessory uses to the primary residential uses and residential areas and and that the housing element and zoning code both identify community care facilities as a residential housing type. There are identifying conditions of approval within that finding that ensure compatibility, including that there's sufficient parking on site the facility will be staffed. 24 hours a day, clients will be supervised. There will be a hotline for neighbors. Clients will be screened and no sex offenders are violent. Felons will be admitted and claims will be required to be sober while in the program and screen daily. So those are some of the compatibility pieces for Finding d that finding is that the site is physically suitable for the type density and intensity of the use being
proposed and again, it was developed as a mixed use property. They units that are being utilized. Our previously identified as the or 7 to bedroom residential units they are utilizing that existing space. They are not expanding. And so staff found in planning commission found that the intensity was not increasing beyond what the project was originally approved. Okay. Thank you, Jessica. Thank you. MISS Rogers. >> So Alex, you said that. >> Year. >> Instead of them staying at 3 properties. So you're going to use one of the properties during the day and then this property will be for it'll be nighttime use. It will be a mix of both. But we we maintain an active license right now. One of our 6th, facilities that has. >> Like I said, a big yard. We have animals there. We can do animal therapy. A card in the pool. So it's and it's only a mile and a half away. So it's a good opportunity for them to leave the facility at Mountain Hawk for additional services or treatment a different environment. They'll be able to everything they can do at one facility. They will able to do with the other other than Obviously they can all sleep but the 6 bed facility. So they'll be able to have group over their individual sessions. All that. >> And >> I just have to ask as massage envy your tenant. >> They >> So when you told us that the businesses that support you, I mean, they can't really say they don't support you because they MAY not have a place to operate there. Your tenant.
>> I mean, they definitely could. They have 10 year leases in place securing their operation and frankly, I've become friends with all the owners because we've been good neighbors with them when they have issues. Oftentimes our maintenance guy will help them out. Their letters of support speak for themselves. I don't. I don't think that they were coerced in any way or felt. The need to answer a certain way. >> The landlord you have to think that way. Okay. Sounds good. I just want to clarify that. >> Additionally, the neighbor next or who we are not affiliated with. You just owns the building next door. Wrote a letter of support as well as several of his tenants who have no. Financial relationship with us. So horrific. That sounds better. Think Vice Mayor. Thank you. >> For there was a slide that Esquire com put up that had some questions and concerns on She wanted about the process. I was wondering if you could address those as well as the the further questions that she asked about the timeline of. Removing the location from the Louis. >> So for the second question about that, would defer that our fire Marshal. Paul, thought think is still on. And then work on. MAY need some help from our attorney. Many others. >> Thank you, vice mayor for
the questions. So the analysis of evaluating the ui stems back to the 2020 see wpp. >> Can you protection plan during that time? The analysis that was done or request to be done regarding the was specific to Coffey Park. That was an action item, the wpp. And that was determined to not be within the Lily. After that, there is a determination that was made that we were going to wait for the state to come out with their recommendations for moderate high and very high in the state responsibility areas outside of the city. Those maps were initially rolled out in 2022. When we saw the new maps, we communicated with the state and we were led to believe that there would likely going to be changes within the city of Santa Rosa's, local responsibility area. Prior to that map change the only areas within the city, the state map to where the very high high for the very high fire hazard severity zones, which did include the northern portions of stock based on the new maps that we saw in 2022, we knew that there was going to be changes to the city. Those maps released last year and as required by law, the high and very high fire hazard severity zones were approved by council. We then took the recommendations and the direction from the state. The came out and early 2025. It made a decision that we're going to modify or existing wild land, urban interface. Again, our wildland urban interface was established originally in 2009. And there's a lot of people that were included in a zone that stem that from that initial map. The goal is to take the moderates high and very high as recommended by state Fire Marshal's Office and change the boundaries of our local wild land. Urban interface, Fire area in some parts of the city. The wildland urban interface expanded into areas
that we've never included in our primarily which you will see what you've seen in the initial adoption of our maps and you'll that brought 40 council in AUGUST start APRIL 21st. That has areas that are being recommended to be included in the Louis around Montgomery High School into the creekside area of Valley neighborhoods and around the fairgrounds. There's also good information to request the withdraw of our existing while him urban interface from certain parts of our community that are primarily in and in Heights area closer to the Summerfield road portion of neighborhood as well as portions of the region valley neighborhoods around Skyhawk where there's no science, there's no data to support that risk than there's no reason based on the history, the data to support those neighborhoods continuing to be in our local wildland-urban interface. If they're not, yeah, even remotely close to the states, it should be noted that this project area. Is about a high of mile from the very high fire hazard severity zone. Just some quick calculations and the new proposed boundaries, the moderate risk will be within about 2 tenths of a mile from this project area. And the high risk will be about 6 to 7 tenths of a mile from this project area. Is this process was well underway at the behest of >> the city and not at the request of the applicant. Correct? >> Yes, the short answer is yes. We started this project as a city back in 2020 is continue through today. >> Okay. And just want to clarify. So there were some
specific questions towards the end of her presentation. Are those ones you ask an sta? >> Yes, sir. She question the process. Okay. Yeah. If you can. >> there 5 bullet points are identified as questions. The first was You can correct me if I'm if I'm not going the right direction here. The first was regarding zoning and what substantial evidence shows this 24 bed facility serves the daily needs of the Skyhawk neighborhood. So the neighborhood commercial zoning district there is in the zoning code. There is a purpose that describes what the intent of the neighborhood commercial zoning district is. It does talk about serving daily needs, but there is no mandate for uses that are going into a neighborhood commercial zoning districts, too, provide for the daily needs of the neighborhood. Commercial district is designed to be a mixed use. Zoning district and and encourages incorporation both residential and commercial uses and that is reflected in the land use table of the code that identifies a multitude of different uses that are allowed by right, as well with various levels of of conditional use permit. So the record reflects in the findings that the >> the use is consistent with the neighborhood commercial zoning district. >> The next question was skill analysis specifically where do findings analyze where country playing intensity is compatible with a neighbor. The Comer neighbor, commercial zoning. So again, I mean, this is the 6th Ed facility existing. It's going to 7 residential units. Those units
were designed to 2 bedrooms. And and the 24 bed and staff is not aware of it being incompatible with the intensity of the building. Official has also looked at this and has not identified any issues with intensity. The number of residents, it would be living on site as well as the staff. Paula Cole just said talked about the wildfire safety. The next question was regarding public opposition. And where do the findings reconcile overwhelming neighborhood opposition. So again, you know, we've got findings that have to be made for approving a conditional use permit. And the record reflects the how those findings could be made. And I think our attorney MAY have some other comments on that particular one. Sure. Thank you. Good evening, actually. Crocker, assistant city attorney. >> Just a follow-up on Jessica Jones. I wanted to note that public controversy itself does not require additional environmental review when there's no substantial evidence in the record that the project as designed will cause significant environmental impacts. Similarly see, but does not require an analysis of subjective psychological feelings or social impacts resulting from a project. So I wanted to add that and I think the next bullet is mine as well. The last bullet is fair hearing given the district Council members recusal. How has the city insured heightened scrutiny of the record? And to that, I will point out that in the land use contacts and that setting up the judicial appeal that we're in today. California court supply the fair hearing standard. And that requires a fair hearing before an impartial try tribunal to ensure or administrative decisions are based on evidence and impartial
judgment. Fair process standards require that council members cannot have personal conflicts of interest cannot have prejudged the facts and cannot be prejudice against the party. Any party decisions must based on evidence presented in the record and at the hearing. In that framework, recusal of an individual councilmember does not undermine the fair process and does not require the council to apply any additional heightened scrutiny to its review. In fact, recusal of a council member that has identified a conflict of interest is required to ensure a fair hearing and fair process. So regardless of whether the council member accuses or if they're absent, which, you know, happens on a regular basis, the council is required to review the evidence in the record and to make finding supported by substantial evidence and the substantial evidence in the record was detailed by MS. Jones is in the resolution is in the staff report and is in all of the supporting documents attached to your materials. And I also just want to note on there was another suggestion that the split vote by the planning Commission would somehow alter your review and that 42 vote does not trigger any heightened standard of review of the council and is not compromise. Our fair hearing process ease. But if have some okay, I also wanted to says a little off topic, but I wanted to circle back to council member Alvarez's initial question as to whether or not there state laws that would. Govern our influence. Your decision. And I did want to point out that Americans with Disabilities Act does protect those who are in treatment programs and or those who are taking prescribe medicine to treat their addiction. So if the council or to base any deny on the fact that the residents are former recovering addicts, that could
be a violation of the ada. And similarly, since this is a housing issue, if it were decision based on a disability status, it could also violate the federal fair housing laws as well as state And Andrew at. I thought I'd throw that out there and response. And that's all I have on the fair hearing. And then if I could provide one additional point of clarification, it was mentioned earlier that the site was recent. >> Lee rezoned and just for clarification on the site was not recently rezone. The site neighborhood commercial in 2005. What happened with the council recently was general plan land use amendment for this site. The prior general plan land use amendment was very low density residential. And so the council change that land use designation to a combination of medium density residential and retail business services, which is consistent with most of the neighborhood commercial zoning districts that we have here in the city. >> Thank you so much for all answers on that. Appreciate it. Any further questions from council? MRS. Definitely took the air. So with all the questions that have already been asked. >> smoking, >> if you actually take. Your members off of the property so they can smoke a seared. >> It's a condition of approval. >> To do that, do that currently now? Okay. Because words like a waste gas. But or elevators. There are okay. Yeah. The building's elevator, sir. There's not a single step
to get into any of our units. And and you said that you have 2 vehicles that provide or one vehicle that can. Because the property multiple times too and 2 runs. We they came all the members that you have time. We could do it in several different ways. We have won 12 passenger van. Now that we use. But as we increased capacity, we could buy another 100 make multiple trips. And have all these notes by think again, the questions have been asked. So appreciate your time. I think my my colleagues as well, all of my questions are answered as Crocker. Thank you for coming with that ad information. That was that was a good point of contact for us to keep in mind. >> With that MISTER Luster, a motion on the table here. Vice mayor was used when she threw emotion out there and then we could have any any found discussion is needed. All right. I will move to adopt. A resolution is presented by staff. A second. All right. We have motion a second by MISS Rogers. This would be to deny to not to deny the appeal. Final discussion. This funding. >> Yeah, to my mind, this is this is really been an interesting discussion in and I don't look at this is about being pro or con about a rehab center. I look at this as being a land use decision because at the end of the day there, there's roughly equal number of beds, whether it's a two-year 24 that are going to be permitted. It seems like it's about where you cite the business rather than whether or not you provide the service and that that whether or not
we we allow this today, the this business could continue to operate at various locations around the city. And I find it actually a little bit. Logistically strange to cited here and then move people around for smoking breaks. I been a social worker and I think that smoking pretty essential. The people recovering from and easily getting to smoke is probably pretty essential to people recovering. So to my mind, I look at this like what what does it actually make sense for this shopping center or not? Doesn't make sense to have people in recovery because, of course, make sense to people in recovery. But I think I have a hard time, you know, like. >> It just doesn't really make sense to me to have it in this. And just because of the intensity, I don't know that that's what was intended when the housing units were put in to have that high of a residential count in these apartment units. And so that's kind of how I look at it. You know, I I'm really curious to hear what other people say like I love the idea of having more services. And I think that the services can continue elsewhere. He ran and where they're also going on at other locations in the city. Rodgers. >> So really want thank the public for further input regardless of what side that you feel, you are on trying to say this very nicely. But up by here, these people one more time when those people. >> Are us. >> I work in the er and those people are your mothers, your father's there, your attorneys
there, your doctors, they're your garbage collectors. They are us. None of us are exempt. And so that was very disheartening. To hear that. I hope that if I'm ever one of these people or let's just say, I hope that if I'm at for someone that has a challenge that has that my journey has not gone the way that I wanted it to go, that there is somewhere for me to go and being a licensed marriage and family therapist. I know far too many times when people are ready for the help and they're ready for the care. We do not always have beds are places for them to go to get that help in that care. So for that, thank you very much for having this business. Thank you for wanting to expand it. However you want to expand. It's not it's a business. It's not my I don't feel like I should be able to tell you you can have 3 people there and to people they're fit its criteria, which is sounds like it does. By all means do what you want with your business. But thank you for having the services available for the people in our community that need it. I hope that the people that are here. That are opposed to this. GOD forbid that any of your family members, your friends, the children that have to walk to school, one of their parents need this. If we are to deny this business to provide this service to our community because substance abuse does not discriminate. So I hope you have listened. But you
walk out of here with an open heart. And if this does come into your community and you know that. I'm not going to say these people. The people that would utilize this service. I hope, you know that they deserve the services to get their lives together. So thank you. Thank you. >> Other thoughts before vice mayor. Yeah. I agree with Councilmember Rogers I try to stay in my lane that lane is to not tell other people how to do their business. If there's business to student need to be made about. Is this a good location? Are the patients okay? Being near? >> place that serves alcohol. i mean, for lack of a better term, the market will dictate that if it's a bad business decision for them to do this and they have to deal with. That's not for us to deal with. We don't want to get into the nitty-gritty of how businesses operate on a day-to-day basis should be legal in comply with their zoning. I want to thank the residents are being out and then for asking us to scrutinize project is part of this process, a process that we've had before all this event. A process. We're all going to have after all gone is to screen as projects like this to make sure it's being that being done the right way. That being said. I have a real problem with people bringing up. I'm probably get a lot of c# # # for this. When I get home. I was 6 years old sitting on the outside of a ring. Of people in recovery playing with hot wheels. And I turned out fine. At least I think I did. But I think it's incumbent on parents to explain what is going on. But there's an illness that these people cannot control. And that they need help. Don't say it's best for the kids. If you don't plan on educating them
on what's going on. Want to try not to get emotional because it's a very personal subject for me. But I don't think it's appropriate to push people who are in recovery out of the I site because it makes you uncomfortable. We need people to be a part of a community. And you can ask anybody that's successfully or even unsuccessfully gone through recovery and still trying that community matters in that process, putting one on the island, a deal to themselves is not going to be something that works or any of them. Hands down. There's no question they need people of support. They need to feel normal. With that being said. I'm gonna vote. 90's appeals. Both of them because I think this is legal and good use and morally the right thing to do. Stronger us. I was going to stay quiet for the rest of the meeting. But hearing that my colleague >> just poured his heart out. I cannot help but join. That. Of course. The reality is that. Drug use alcoholism is a disease. It's not be correlated. This not be associated with pedophilia. If you say the word correctly. You know, whatever the nasty stuff. The reality is. As a young kid playing in the ditch is looking for crawdads. I stand myself with needles. There were discarded. As a man just today. I forgot my laptop at home. And I find my driveway. Live office. Road. It was not there. When I left. Whenever live next to recovery
homes. I do not find it. Not here. The noises of recovery. What I saw was people trying to recover and recuperate their life. So you do think of have of halfway home or recovery house, you find people that are trying to better their lives now used trucks. And I think that's that's perception that that that's produced by fear. I hope that all of can get over that fear together. We spend >> This has been really interesting discussion. And you know, I want to thank everyone for coming out of the Sky Hawk United and of course, everyone with Pure v a it's no matter what. It's always good to see people engaged in their community. And and and wanting to make their voices heard. And I really respect that. I have to say, you know, yes, it is true. I don't live in Sky Hawk. But in my district, I represent. 6 different homeless facilities, not 1, 6, And many of the things that I heard said tonight about folks in recovery are a lot of the things that I hear about that people say about homeless folks over and over again. And I have to say, I'm really I have to commend my my fellow council members because they get it. They understand that. Any of us, if not our family members, we ourselves be hope become homeless, especially in this economy. Chant have substance abuse issues, mental health issues, you name it across the board and probably everyone in this room has either themselves or someone in their family. Our friends that have gone through any of those issues. I do. I don't want lecture people. I'm not
doing that. I just want to say that I really respect the work that pure Vita does. And I think it's a service that is sorely sorely needed, especially when we hear about. You know, our children dying of fentanyl, things of that nature or people in horrible situations. And and babies being killed because they're affected by drugs that are in the room. Any of that stuff that is all happened here in Santa Rosa. And we have to think that q# # # # # makes a good point. We have to be realistic about that. It's great that you live in Sky Hawk. What a beautiful place. But is that reality? If you if you don't allow people to understand that there are people with problems, that's that's what I'm concerned about. So I'm going to be voting for the denial of the appeals tonight. And I again, I commend you all. I also commend Dr Chen. You know, I and I think your heart's in the right place. But remember that we all are affected by this. And as a community, we have to all address it. So that's all have to Thank you for that. I commend my colleagues in the comments they've made and I second them. I would I would add I would I would build on what has been as just just pointed out, which is that. >> And I think all of our districts throughout the city, we we have facilities like this there doing good work that are in our neighborhoods. I mentioned earlier, but him being a Bennett Valley Summerfield Road went through this exact discussion 15 years ago as they were looking to put again a larger facility serving serving people who are arguably even more at risk or or more complicating some ways to work with. And it's been a good thing for the for the guests at that that facility, that and the new version and
it's been gets been good for the community. So we have to find a way to support that as long as it's done in the right way in in our various neighborhoods. And to that end, I want to thank staff because you answered all of the reasonable objections that were brought forward. We talked about concerns around planning. That seems clear this project is alignment with our code. We talked about the fire issues. It seems clear that we have a drive that we have addressed those. We talked about the neighborhood nuisance issues. It seems clear that we've investigated those thoroughly. We've talked about the operator quality. It seems like we've addressed that issue. So good for the community for raising these concerns. It was good. We had this conversation, but it does seem like the city and the applicant have answered the objections very thoroughly. And so as my colleagues have ended, I will also be supporting that this project and to that and we have a motion. We have a second on the floor. MADAM City clerk, are we ready to call a vote? >> Yes, excuse me as Mayor Councilmember Rogers proudly. Council member. MacDonald has recused Councilmember Fleming. Yes, Councilmember Ben well oath. Yes, Councilmember Alvarez. All right. Vice Mayor Okrepkie. I. Let the record show this passes 6 affirmative votes and Councilmember MacDonald recusing. >> All right, everyone, thank you again for coming out tonight says we are moving on to it. Our 8 or through to the meeting. We're going take a 10 minute break. And then for those of you who are here for for the immigration issue, we're gonna come back and begin with that in 10 minutes. All right. Thank you for your patience, everyone. The time
905. And we will reconvene open session. MADAM City clerk, could you please call the roll? >> Thank you, Mayor Councilmember Rogers. Councilmember MacDonald here, Councilmember Fleming Council member of n y Los here, Councilmember Alvarez, PRESIDENT Vice Mayor Okrepkie Air Mayor stop here. Let the record show that all councilmembers are present. >> All right. We're moving on to another another issue. That front and center for our community right now. We're going to start with item 15.3, which is our report on the ordinance introduction. This is pertaining to the ordinance of the council. The city of Santa Rosa adding Chapter 13 dash 40 to the Santa Rosa City code to establish that civil immigration enforcement is not a city purpose and to to prohibit the use of city property that would disrupt city operations or discourage access to city services unless they use for there's a city purpose or is traditionally available to the public without city authorization and MR. Not we've the year. You're going to take the lead on this along with our city attorney. Yes, good evening and thank you, Mayor. I'm joined by City attorney Stricker and we're going to work our way through this presentation. >> Talking about an ordinance and city code revision to restrict use of city property. What it boils down to it. The city's mission is really to provide high quality public services and cultivate vibrant and resilient livable city that that is the City Council's mission for the city of Santa Rosa. And in doing so. There's a number of aspects of that that we find ourselves needing to continue to adjust and make
improvements along the way. Given some of new changes occurring at the federal level last year, city council adopted a series of council goals which turned into strategic priorities of the 5, which include fiscal sustainability in budget excellence, development of maintenance of city infrastructure, citywide economic development, the most important and relevant one for this is fostering a safe, healthy and inclusive community. In addition to providing housing for all and homeless reduction and the city invest substantial resources and to ensure that we're following each of these council goals to try to deliver the mission of this city and in doing so. We really look at the city being access point for our community members to be able to safe, accessible and operational continuity with. Practical necessity of fiscal responsibility. And that's really saying we are here to try to ensure that our community is part of a true community. In doing so. We established a series of commit are we demonstrate our commitment. And in 2017 City Council adopted resolution 2017 Dash 17, which is an indivisible cities resolution. And it demonstrated that the can that we have a commitment to safeguarding the civil rights, safety and dignity of all Santa Rosa residents and acknowledging that Santa Rosa is a community of diverse individuals that prides itself on being a place that welcomes persons and families from all cultures, religions, backgrounds, orientations, abilities, and viewpoints. And it underscores the city's
commitment to all community members, including are imminent it or immigrant community creating a safe and livable community for all through a trust and cooperation. We further went back in 2018 and adopted a resolution specifically relating to policies that were in process of separating children from families at the border. And in other instances where immigration services were taking action to develop or determine someone's residency within the United States. And this last year or earlier this year, council adopted resolution, 2026 Dash 0, 1, 4, which was a request to Congress to improve our training and our oversight of federal immigration enforcement agents and in the in the hopes of trying to address that. Types of atrocities we were seeing across the country in relation to the immigration tactics that were that were being made. It also tried to better separate the distinction between federal enforcement activities and local enforcement activities. And this is really the heart of the challenge that we're running into today. In doing so the challenge we're seeing at the federal level is we're having federal enforcement agencies appear as local enforcement officers by utilizing the word police on their gear on their dress on their vehicles. We are
identifying that the tactics that they're using don't conform with local police practices that are established across the country and what that's resulting in is fear for immigrant families of going to places such as workforce centers, libraries, public events and healthcare facilities because the lack of government trust is starting to embroil its way through our community members because of the lack of distinction. Additionally reports show immigration status and enforcement related concerns have deterred many from accessing just basic need programs like like Medicaid and snap programs. Effective public safety depends on residents feeling safe, accessing services reporting crimes and engaging with local government and city participation with enforcement official. If federal immigration laws including use of city properties and assets, not only violate state law and demonstrably diminishes the public's participation in civic life. Interest in local public safety efforts. There is substantial evidence from major cities around the country that show that failing support immigrant adults and their children negatively impact their contributions to key industries in our communities on leaving critical gaps in healthcare, technology, construction and agriculture. Therefore, we've been asked by counsel that begin establishing or presenting an ordinance for your consideration. That does a series of things. And this ordinance is based on an ordinance that the city of San Francisco County, San Francisco recently adopted and represents the strongest example of an ordinance
restricting immigration officials from using local government property aligned with the approach many California cities and counties have taken without challenge. This proposed ordinance has been developed to provide neutral non-discriminatory approach to ensure that the city property serves city purpose by focusing on the city's role in promoting and not disrupting citywide function and stability to provide services to the public in doing so. There will be 4 primary aspects of this. The ordinance will prohibit use of city property without city authorization except for space is generally open to the public without offer offer. A station. It will prohibit city officials or employees from authorizing the use off arising uses that disrupts city operations or discourage access to city services unless the use for there's a city purpose. Authorize the city attorney to pursue an injunction or others legal civil action. For unauthorized or unlawful use of city property in violation of the ordinance. And it reinforces the California Values Act and existing city policies that prohibit by prohibiting city property from being used to assist in civil immigration enforcement. This ordinance prohibits prohibits anyone, including the federal government from common during city property for non city purposes. Such a similar immigration enforcement, for example, under the ordinance ice MAY not take over part of the city Hall parking lot or public parking spaces at Park to the exclusion of others to stage its civil immigration enforcement operations. There are several things this
ordinance does not do. It does not prohibit constitutionally protected speech or assembly. Amend any existing legally binding agreement. Restrict lawful public access to facilities traditionally open to the public. Interfere with any federal officers. Independent authority under federal law. Or limit enforcement of criminal laws on related to immigration status. To be clear, this ordinance does not prohibit ice agents from enforcing immigration laws on city property that is open to the public in all circumstances. Ice agents, man for similar immigration laws on city property where that access or use is on the same terms as members of the public and is not disrupt city operations. For example, ice agents MAY park in a visitor space at City Hall to engage in civil immigration efforts in parts of City Hall campus that are open to the public providing doing so does not disrupt city operations. The specific language that we are proposing to amend into the city code under chapter 13, Dash 40 use of city property is as follows. There are 6 subsections associated with this. I'm not going to read all of but the general information I just provided you is just written here in appropriate format so that we can move forward under a legally enforceable ordinance. And this is the second 3 components. By setting clear standards for how city property and resources MAY be used, including restrictions that keep local resources focused on Sunday responsibilities rather than federal immigration. Civil immigration enforcement is our recommendation to council
adopt this ordinance to ensure consistency and day by day operations support public safety efforts that encourage public cooperation and strengthen community trust in the city's commitment come to comprehensive wellness services. Fairness and transparency. And I just want to say there was a lot of hands that helped put this together. I want to appreciate City attorney Stricker and chief deputy Attorney Luna for the work that they've done on the legal side as well as Lindsey Dougherty and Luke Phase or within the city manager's office for the work that they did to get this together. This really was a team effort to ensure that this particular program and ordinance came together in an appropriate way. And so with that, the city attorney's office in city manager's office recommends that the council approve the reading and introduce an ordinance adding Chapter 13 Dash 40 titled Use of City property to the Santa Rosa City code to one established that civil immigration enforcement is not a city purpose. And 2 prohibit the use of city property that would disrupt city operations or discourage access to city services and less these furthers city purpose or is traditionally available to the public without city authorization. And we are here to answer any questions that you MAY have assistant city manager, not and city attorney Stricker. Thank you so much. There was a lot of work that went into turning the Council for questions.
>> As Donald. >> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for the presentation. I have a quick question and maybe you can help. We understand. Can you tell me the difference between the city council adopting a resolution or adopting an ordinance and what that does for us. >> In ordinance is in your in your books. It's usually an ordinance is something that would apply to those outside of the city rather an internal city policy. That's really talking about what we do here that said there have been a number of jurisdictions that have done similar things by resolution. So one could do it either way. We did get feedback at the study session you all preferred to see an ordinance. And so we are moving forward with an ordinance and new ordinance get to their little slower. It also has very clear teeth in so again, this this has always requires 2 readings that takes effect on the thirty-first day after reading. It's the it's the usual pattern with you ordinances. >> And I think this is an important point that we want to make tonight into the community because to me, resolutions can be statements of belief what we want to achieve word ordinances actually directing how we do business. And while it takes longer to get there, it actually gives our staff better direction. And it tells our community how we want to do the business. But I just want to make sure that I was understanding that right and why we're going to the 2 step process because this is actually stronger language for the city to have in place to
protect our community members. Thank you, MR. Willis. Thank >> thank you. Assistant city manager and city attorney and everyone that was involved putting this together really fairly quickly, actually. I just had a few >> let's what did know you did, but I just want for purposes of the public to if you could talk a little bit about the other ordinances that you looked at. >> In the state of California. Sure. We've looked at looked at many all across the city. Some of them are identified in the study session. >> we looked I'm going just go through my list. We looked Alameda County. We looked up We look to Berkeley. We look to the city of Los Angeles, the county of Los Angeles. We look to the city of San Diego. We looked at the city and county of San Francisco, which is the one that this one is modeled from we looked at the city of San Jose we looked at the city of Santa Clara, which was a resolution. We looked San Mateo County and there are some others that also were looked out outside of the state. We really wanted to stick. With the approach taken in the state because we have some legislation that has already in place that protects our resources to some extent that it makes California little bit different. >> And along that line. Can you that? >> Talk about I think >> believe it's the city of San Diego. >> They are talking about
requiring a judicial warrant. And I just wondered if you could talk a little bit about the difference between a judicial warrant being required versus what we're looking at is possibly like a city permit. What we're looking here this this ordinance talks about city uses a judicial warrant is. >> Something that any any law enforcement agency are our own police officers go through this process, get from a court and they have to show that there is sufficient probable cause to get a warrant. And so basically you have a judge that's issuing that warrant when you have a warrant, whether it's immigration officers that have a warrant or a local police department, then there is an obligation to comply. The warrant is very limited and narrow in in is supposed to happen. I would invite the chief to come down if you want more questions about the specifics of a warrant. But essentially it's gone through a process where a court has already determined that there is enough probable cause to move forward with a warrant and administrative warrant is very different. It's done in administratively. In the case of immigration officers. It's essentially. Ice itself is determined that it's going issue a warrant and the 2 are very different ice cannot come place that is not open to the public without a judicial warrant unless there is consent to get And so, for example, if ice were to come to city Hall, we have places that are open to the public
during normal business hours and ice agent could walk into those same places that are open to the business. But ice can't demand to come into places that are close to the public that are really only open to city employees without a judicial warrant. That is the state of the law right now. And so ordinance doesn't change the ability of ice to come anywhere with an appropriate judicial warrant. And and any any ordinance that that we word adopt that says you can't come here with a judicial warrant would probably not survive legal challenge. And I'll just added let the city attorney chime with this as well. I think the key aspect of this is this is not an isolate. It doesn't discriminate. In essence. >> Of the particular individual or entity that's coming in to operate on a particular city property. It basically identifies that city has full control of the properties owns operates and maintains and it's at our discretion that anybody shows up and takes over our common deers that space for whatever activity it is. And I think that was a can critical component of why city attorney Stricker identified the San Francisco ordinance as being the primary aspect because it doesn't come out and specifically say this particular federal immigration Agency cannot be here and there are some ordinance is out there that the city attorney read off that specifically state that and there is concern about the the ongoing aspect of the of that
language. And I guess my other question is in terms of process. >> So if we >> adopt this tonight, >> there's some time, of course, it's going to come back for second reading. But if we adopt what's here without any at changes or tweaks, it'll the second reading when it comes back will be the same I'm assuming I'm I'm just asking what the processes. So this whatever you adopt an ordinance with with only a couple of exceptions to the rule and this wouldn't be one of those. >> You if you introduce it tonight that your first typically we will then bring it back at the next meeting it is on your consent calendar. And if you approve that, you have now adopted it. Applicable state laws as well as their own charter. The ordinance doesn't go into effect until 31st day after adoption. So if we bring this back on the 7th you adopted on the 7th, it would go into effect on the 31st day after that, which I haven't done the math. Okay. But that isn't part. >> Clued us if we found the need to make any amendments down the line. If we wanted to do that later, like something happened and we thought, we need put something else in here. >> there's there's nothing that would preclude you from bringing an amendment at any time. And that's true of any of your ordinances so that there's often a case we just had one recently with our massage ordinance where have adopted that program a number of months ago. And we found that there was there were some cleanup that needed to happen.
And so we brought back what is essentially very surgical amendments to kind of clean that up. And that's that's part of your process. So you could you could make changes to in order to change it. You have to amend it, which is another 2 step process. Okay. And then I just I will also add that. In the event there were a situation where you had adopted this ordinance and we're still waiting for those 31 days to go by. Let's say, for example, where 5 days in and there is a situation in Santa Rosa where there's urgent need to be able to enforce that ordinance that hasn't gone into effect depending on those circumstances, they would then be the option of doing what is effectively an urgency ordinance on short notice that does go into effect immediately. But there would have to be certain facts. And at that, that would clearly established legal grounds for urgency ordinance. And so you would not be in a situation where you had to wait 2 or 3 weeks before we could do anything. Thank you. Vice Yeah, just question I'm going to ask for the Chiefs help on this as well. But I think one thing that's going to stand out in this is some people is the par and are setting clear boundaries were says this is this is not. >> Interfere with federal officers. Independent authority under federal law. As so can you kind of address The repercussions of interfering with what, what they're independent authority is and what the repercussions for staff and specifically law enforcement are for interfering. Okay. Under said or
>> We cannot interfere with getting in the way with letting ice do their job. And so that's different than whether or not they can allow them to use our property to assess them in doing their job. So we couldn't, for example. If we saw an arrest happening by an ice official, we couldn't go over there and say we don't like that happening in our state in our city and you can't do that here. And if we started to push doing that, we would then run into the risk of and having an argument be made that we had committed a crime, the crime of interfering with federal agents immigration enforcement efforts. And so that would be something that we would not be able to do. This ordinance doesn't do that. What this ordinance does, this is talking about use of our property and establishing that in order for our property to be essentially used to for any purpose. It has to be consistent with city policies. So we're talking about exclusive use using it as a staging ground or using it in a way that completely precludes us from delivering our mission as a city. And there are exceptions for First Amendment and for the other situations our system, city attorney just outlined. >> vice mayor that what I would add to that and mean, our city attorney has a strong legal knowledge on this. And we brought this up in our original when we talked about the resolution about 2 key
areas of concern is that where our Santa Rosa police officers by policy and by state law will never assist federal agents and immigration enforcement. With that. You're never going to see a eniko response. You're never going to see a police officer asking about anyone's immigration status. Certainly not detaining anyone for their immigration status. Then the question comes in. So what if we do see an ice agent on city property? What is our action going to do? And those are some of the concerns that we brought up the safety concerns of sending books armed police officers against armed federal agents. But the real threat, especially in the world that we live in today an officer and Keating, a federal officer getting federally indicted, something that we've obviously never seen here in the city of Santa Rosa. So that's why we really worked carefully as a team to navigate. How do we focus on the desire of our community of our elected officials to make sure that we're sending a message not here in Santa Rosa, but at the same time, not creating safety are legal concerns for our team here. I think that the team was able to thread that needle successfully here that we can send the message. We're not going to allow this behavior in our city property, but do it without exposing our officer safety risk early over us. >> Thank you. Any other questions council? All right. Let's open up to public comment on why do we have number of people who are Anderson commenting? We're to make sure that we can hear everyone, especially at this late hour, we're going limit public comment to 2 minutes I know when we know that people feel passionately about this about this issue and have things to say we all areas I always make this offer when we
have lots of commenters, it is perfectly appropriate. If you going to say essentially the same thing as the person in front of you to simply go and say, I agree with the person who just spoke. Nevertheless, you do have your full 2 minutes. If you're interested in. And having said that, let's let's started off with both use both podiums. We'll start off with Susan a season. Le Monde, Chad Andy and I and if you could be waiting by the by the podiums were to click through this pretty fast. We have a number of speakers. But Susan, Chad, Diane. >> something makes us? >> My comments are particularly directed to those who consider immigrants to be. The other. My ancestors came with the territory that's now the United States. They arrived in in Jamestown in 16, 19 and lived on stolen pro. Have my hand. When the first ship enslaved people arrived that same year they bought some of them. In 16. 34 the displaced Patton's justifiably rebuild and killed. Jon Woodson. And in return, his wife and a neighbor killed several hatton's and the gun is they used is still in existence in a museum. The U.S. Government and the vast majority of us residents consider me to be legitimate citizen of this country. That is despite being here with such an origin story. This is that prejudice against. Those who of color who don't have the same privileges that I
have. It's primarily because their color is a white-supremacist policy. It's very common to hear us citizen say, well, my ancestors came here legally, but did they? The federal government did not begin regulating immigration until 18. 91. Many were not allowed to come legally anyway, based upon their color. So how many understand that? We're just lucky. Not that we deserve this. There were more deserving it's you the members of the city Council have limited options opposing this very, very cruel system. And we are asking you to even considered defying the law some point at some point, I think that will be necessary. And you must be brave. Thank you, Susan. >> Chad, Diane and Scott Johnson. Cheddar. You still here. Alright, Diane's Scott. And then Maryann Michaels and again, not use both podiums. Is Diane here. All right. Scott, are you here? So Scott, Marianne and Michael? >> Scott MR. Mayor members of the council. >> Really appreciate. >> The spirit of urgency that I'm sensing >> Both from the council to bring forward and adopt. The ordinance as well as from staff, legal counsel city manager's office. Police Department. Kudos in reading the ordinance it and thank you for doing the comparative analysis with other jurisdictions around the Bay area. There's some good. >> Good examples to follow so
affirming my support for the focus on ice free zone. No use of city property for any ice activity that goes above and beyond. You know, a judicial authority. However, what in my mind seems to be missing or perhaps might be considered for a greater emphasis is. Within the ordinance. Very prescriptive from direct. Language restricting the sharing of information and data with ice. Because ice. As far as many of us a view, are really starting to rely. On municipal governments and the sharing of that data to a cyst and they're enforcement, repressive enforcement activities. So as a community member here in Sonoma in Sonoma County, a field to say So rest resident look to include language on non sharing and collaborating >> thank you, Scott Mary and then Michael Dunn. Gloria. >> Mayor. Vice Mayor. Members of the city Council and staff. My name is Mary and Michaels. I've been a resident of Santa Rosa for 45 years. I currently live in Rincon Valley. And I a member of the Sonoma County Sanctuary Coalition. When I filled out that yellow card. I checked the box that I support the ordinance that you're considering. I support first clause where you establish the civil immigration enforcement
not a city purpose because I believe that that is a statement non collaboration with ice. I support the second part prohibiting use of city property that would disrupt city operations or discourage access to city services. Because I believe that any ice that occur on any property in Sonoma County are by nature, disruptive. Create not only for those in countering in the form of being arrested for anyone who has to witness Finally, I want to add a clones designating schools, hospitals and places of worship and ice for reasons. That would be a new addition. And I think it's a very important one to create a healthy community support system and safety that we all seek to provide. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mary Ann, Michael, Gloria and Alana. Hey, everyone, my name is Michael. >> I live in district 2. I strongly support the city banning ice officers from public property. This current ordinance as written, I don't think is strong enough. I what's lacking is it needs more language around addressing non-cooperation with ice. That includes not sharing any information among other types of non-cooperation. Think that that's super important in addition, I think that really needs to be direct and it
needs to federal agents, ice, dhs, cbp from public property. I don't think it should been everybody because it's going to be selectively enforced. It should be really clear. So it's a not MISS Enforced so that it affects the wrong people. For the part people who weren't intended to be targeted. So I I strongly support a more direct ordinance. It's stronger and that would yeah, maybe maybe have a little bit more broad reach and not necessarily just kind of a general policy that that people can't be on city property without like a city permit. Thank >> Thank you, Michael, Gloria Elena. And then Linda. Thank you. Thank you very much, Gloria Elena, Linda and Renee. >> Hi, my name is Eli member of the Sonoma County Sanctuary Coalition. And I guess and hearing all this, thing that I have to say I want to hard strong know. No cooperation with ice. No collaboration, no cooperation. We're seeing the death tolls like not seen before decades. I think we 32 deaths in 2025. There's already 23 deaths this year. It's very hard for me to hear. We have to let ice do their job. Doing their job. So I feel that this city we are moral city. We're better than that. So I would like to say. A very hard any cooperation and more than I even care about property. I care about the beautiful people. They're destroying and I'd like to give the rest my time to my
colleague. Thank you, Linda, Renee and in Socorro. >> Good evening. Thank you for still being here with us. Hi, my name is Linda Evans. And I've been a resident of Santa Rosa for over. 25 years. I very much appreciate the ordinance that you have before you today prohibiting immigration enforcement operations from using any city property or utilizing city resources. >> Thank you for listening to the community and our needs. But we want you to go further with your policy. We need you to be bold and to take whatever actions you can to stop ice. And it's terrorism. We need you to protect immigrant people in our community. In addition to today's ordinance, we need an ordinance that will number one strongly state that Santa Rosa will not cooperate in any form with ice or other immigration enforcement. Number 2, provide training and guidelines for city employees in case they encounter. I sat there city job or in the community. Number 3 prohibit any city employee from sharing information with ice or other immigration enforcement. Number 4 require clear signage. That makes private or employee only areas on all city-owned property. And number 5, very important to provide clear guidelines for the rule of city police during
immigration enforcement operations. We don't want something to happen here. Like just happened in the San Francisco airport. We have submitted an ordinance m model ordinance to the city attorney and the Sanctuary Coalition looks forward to working with you in creating additional ordinances that will take needs into consideration. Thank you. >> Thank you, Linda. Renee Socorro and Isabel. >> Renee so said, though, with the Sonoma County Sanctuary Coalition at your previous meeting, I was very happy because you all unanimously sub poor did 2 pieces to this new ordinance. One prohibiting ice from using city property and to know collaboration or information sharing between city employees and ice. >> As written now, this ordinance. >> Does not address the know collaboration aspect that you supported in this last week in your last meeting, you must be clear and use direct language if you do not pass than on collaboration portion, then immigrant parents, families will continue to fear. In accessing certain services because it could lead to being reported to ice. Fear of police fear of reporting crimes, fear of taking their kids to school or the doctor when they hear reports that ice MAY be present in the city or nearby. The message that
you are sending, if you don't include the clear and direct language is we don't care if you don't feel safe in our city. In these times of anti immigrant hate and repression, ice and our airports. People need a clear commitment establishing that civil immigration enforcement is not a city purpose is not clear. Santa Rosa still having discretion on whether to prohibit the use of city property is not clear if you have to be clear and direct, please amend this current ordinance to add noncooperation by city employees and be clear that city property MAY not be used. >> Thank you. Renee Socorro is about one page and let's be a little careful with our snapping. Let's keep the noise to a minimum so we can we can get through to score efficiently Socorro Isabella Page, please. >> coach. We have not and has numbers according the what? It look at condiments and is killing us. >> One of the moment we have to we'll have to get our translator. Lo Siento one moment. Okay. >> Lauren, can you please facilitate the interpreters coming over to assist crows public comment? >> 2 s or Claudia? Could you please raise your hand if you're available to come over? Wonderful. We're bringing Claudia over now. We should. >> And the speaker. I just need speak or people pass. An interpreter can interpret it
step by step. Thank you. >> Is he MAY the mean, can do this with this team on you. She political to do not post You like their Bundle up. A couple Knesset will not up with a single to just going his side of the >> Number as little bs beside them into the mechanisms flooding. He is the addition of moment. >> My name is a Korean Ts and I am a member of Senatorial Collission. I am also in agreement, ok, still get they want to. >> So that's one of the clinic at got on that. The is going Good will come. But they listen. I meant that means Us could try the idea and company that. >> I am in agreement with my colleagues are saying and I want to share with you the message always hear every day in my community. >> Give me a look at it most of time they get the inning me able to study that was added to this issue. That is a bus to Cusco Compassion. Me that this was a whole social medians. >> The fear Gross by day people are in fear to go outside of their house just to see for the basic needs to buy food, to bring for their families. >> You come with that and we get into the mostly a and people in looking at money that is testing the end-all. But the accidents my mask use and that is not many as the company gets you >> Assawoman minority of color. Not foreign to me to see all that is happening through the communication in the in the media, in old injustices that we're hearing. >> Got it and schoolchildren side. He's got look at the enemy of those that give up a on news given and got upset. But I This is by the U.S. Because even Monday reason
notice. >> Every day I hear messages specially about children who might be separated from their parents. And my concern about minor children. >> The sentiment to I said, whatever Mccammon said, can look at it. Most. But I see ice. No good in most comforting for my You know, kitten was. Since yeah, the ice in a sauna. Can do this on >> We're just want to share that. I don't want to share information with ice. I don't want to see a corporation towards. Don't want to see the ice prescence in the county of Sonoma. >> In this see that is up at the scene the gun that had put us on East bc of those. Is that puts a minute and think is it been going up and accordance was system is going out on them. Is that bodies seeing I'm going spend U.S. By that out. Then it could set the But the look, a step assembly. >> I want you to consider this petition. I wanted to touch her heart. Some of you are you know, some people whose ancestors were immigrants and, you if they had to go through what we're going through this day. >> Which is something Thank you so much for your attention. >> Thank you, Sir. Caro Isabel Page and Tiffany. Good as quarter. >> No, this is the Seminole with the seat to a coalition, a Sonoma County from district 3. I'm here to also an agreement with my colleagues requesting no color, no collaboration with ice. And the added on to the ordinance. This is that time rate. It's
also just like the last issues is also a morals And it is time for you guys to stand up. >> For to protect our immigrant community. Thank you. >> Thank you. Isabel Page. Tiffany in Dallas. >> Good Evening. My name is Page and I am a resident Santa Rosa here representing myself. >> I want to acknowledge that. >> There were many more neighbors here at the start of the meeting who weren't able to physically state for 5 hours. I urge the city to adopt the strongest possible ordinance to keep ice out of Santa Rosa. The legal risks that individuals in our community are currently carrying are very great. And I hope. That you can do so here tonight to help with the lift. Thank you. >> Thank you. Page Tiffany and in Dallas. >> Yeah, I don't know why we're even hearing this. Ice has no place here. And ice isn't even playing by the rules. And they have been shown to have lethal consequences throughout the country. This policy honestly or this ordinance, rather feels like too little too late. People feel unsafe now and police shouldn't even be humoring collaborating. We're trying to injury and worrying about their own legal status. Thank you. >> Thank you, Tiffany, Dallas. Good evening Good Evening Council dollar's I am an incident detection engineer. I work at a cybersecurity firm that takes care of councils like yourselves, different companies around the United States. One of the things that we most often times identify threat actors finding their way into companies into councils in 2 cities and doing
damage is footholds that are based on policy and procedures that failed to hold up. Data is one of the most important things that we have available to us out in the world. Now it changes our lives and it has the impacts to change the lives of the folks that are inside Santa Rosa. We need to adopt ordinance and we need to make it in the strongest way possible being able to limit exposure of the residents of Santa Rosa through on collaboration through on that data sharing and the strongest policy possible limit, the foothold limit, the threat and limit the exposure of our residents. I agree with Michael that this this ordinance is just frankly not worded strongly enough. We need to adopt as much protection as we can to protect the residents that are within Santa Rosa. I also agree with Scott that the data sharing and collaboration we need to limit as much as we can with working with ice. We've seen that there is lethal consequences. We've seen that wherever ice has a strong presence that things tend to go poorly. Ice has reported that young women and girls are, quote, testing positive for pregnancy in the ice detention facilities. That sounds like some soft wording for they are abusing women and girls that find their way in there. We do not want have exposed the folks of Santa Rosa to that either. This is about building a foundation of trust and safety. Everyone here in Santa Rosa deserves to live a life of dignity. And while ice is PRESIDENT, we do not have that for all residents and everyone deserves that. Thank you. >> Dallas, thank you very much. Are there any of the
members of the public who wish to speak on this item? Seeing none? We'll close public comment. All right. Please make to the podium. And if you are just speaking waiting by the podium. Thank you. >> My name is Bree Perkins and I've been coming for this council. For over a year Just cautioning this council on the increasing violence that we're in our communities, not just locally, but also globally. And I just want to echo a lot of the sentiments that you're hearing today from my other comrades. I won't double down and add too much to that other than I will say that Santa Rosa is the local municipality that all other local municipalities will be looking towards. So like you referred to San Francisco and other. Other agencies and other municipalities in California. Other cities around in Sonoma County are going to be looking to Santa Rosa to lead the charge in this. And so we want to see stronger language and stronger restrictions and less cooperation and insurance for our community members that they won't seek cooperation between. >> Anyone in Sonoma County working alongside Ice. Sonoma County doesn't just need to be non cooperative, but it needs to be a place that is inhospitable for ice and any ice activity. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Other of the mers, the public, please go ahead. >> Hello, residual and I'm member of the hoop of an early
try. The and Iraq. And I. Forgive me. I have adhd and my medication has long since Mourinho since I first got here. Going to be a little Scattered rains. I'm not coming here to ask you to do something. I'm not. Coming here to demand. I e. And here to remind you, Councilmembers, Mayor. We are in a very desperate time and we've been headed towards a desperate time. And you are in a very difficult but extremely fortunate position. Stand up against us. Horrible things that are coming. You are very lucky to be in this position. Please. Do everything you can. Thank u next podium. >> Hello, my name is Nick. I'm a new resident of Santa Rosa. But longer resident of Sonoma County. I want thank the staff of the council for putting together this ordinance so quick. I just also wanted to. No call back to I think about a month ago when this was initially being discussed, both community input as has been echoed today even council members saying. I'm already does not always equal legality and yeah, interesting take that into account as much as possible for this. I think ordinance would be adopted, but I think it's just a first step toward in terms of what we can do to help combat ice. Thank you. >> Thank u next podium. Hi, Good evening, Jason Sweeney. I just I'm so I guess I just want to say I want to read. Also lend my support to this ordinance and that you find ways to strengthen it in the ways that have already been suggested. And I'm happy that you're doing something and heard some great commentary this evening about community the importance and the role of
community. And not excluding. And I just want say yes, more of that, please. And for everyone. For everyone, because we've been some of us have felt excluded by body from your previous silence indifference. And so thank you for doing something. And let's keep it going. Thank Thank you, Fred. >> Fred, all buck, I'd like to support the comments of Scott Johnson and Dallas. Thank you. >> Thank you, Fred. Are there other members of the public? All right. Go ahead. >> And my and comfortably close enough. Yes, and he numbers Ling Also a member of the Cuban tried. That's my just very quickly wanted to say my husband and I those numbers. Strong dot com and when they went way beyond what we ever thought it was going to. People are reaching out to us and they're looking for suggestions for people who are going to do something. And that's growing massively. People are desperate for leaders that are actually making real change their desperate for somebody to take her of the people who need to be taken care of here. Which is a number that's growing. Just putting that out there for you. Thanks. >> Thank you. Are there any other members of the public wish to speak? Seeing none? We'll close public comment and professor, a motion on the table further discussion misspent He would mind. >> with respect, I do want to point out that there is a small clerical correction on section 7. That is just one more that needs to be amended. It was the use of implantation when to shut up and implementation. And so I just wanted to know that for the record and as the motion is
put on the floor. Thank you for that clarification. And i will I will further clarified that is in Section 7. >> Of the ordinance. It's the environmental determination and it's in the second to last line. Okay. Let's see. >> In I moved to introduce the ordinance as amended with the clerical correction as specified by staff and section 7. >> So we with it. Was that a second? I heard MR. All right. We got it. We have a motion and a second by MISS MacDonald. Further discussion. Vice Mayor. >> Clarifying question in regards to non-cooperation. Correct me if I'm wrong and I could it's been a long night, but doesn't the individual city resolution as well as the state? Sb? 54, thank you. Dictate that. Yes, that's important matter to make sure it's clear for the record that there's actually 3 foundational pieces. So first is the individual city that we passed or the city council did in 2017. 0nd is Senate Bill. 54 in Senate Bill. 54 specifically prohibits law enforcement cooperation and sharing information with ice under a very narrow window in that narrow window is being arrested or convicted of serious or violent felonies and those and those specifically listed out in the penal code section, including murder, rape, child molestation, kidnapping, and those ones. Those are the only ones that under the state law and then 3rd is our department policy that we have. And that's our immigration policy. Its policy for 20, it's listed both on our website both in English and in Spanish with
outlines us following that line, limiting our cooperation in any type of sharing information with ice that are outside of that very narrow window allowed in state law. >> So I guess for me if it already exists, I see no problem. Making inch putting it putting in stronger words within this ordinance will maybe not this ordinance pass this ordinance that on a weight on this ordinance but work on one of those surgical amendments to it going forward so we can get this implemented just to codify within this. >> My suggestion would be if you want to make either put it a different format or updated that it actually would. It would be in a different place. I wouldn't. And then this ordinance and it doesn't slow it down because either way you have to do it through 2 I think if there is a desire to. Fed up, they mean we do already have it. That is it is a resolution that governs what we will do. It is appropriate to be a resolution. And you do already have that resolution in place. And again, we don't we don't do that cooperation at all. Except in those very narrow circumstances involving violent crimes. I'm just thinking of being very clear what our intention is at this point in time by codifying it by compressing those 3 into one action for our body to consider. >> If my colleagues would agree with that going forward, that's I would be interested in that. What I would not be interested is I understand the difference sometimes what's moral isn't always legal, but
we've seen ice kill unarmed individuals. I am not willing to request or ask or expect any of our staff or a specially armed police officers to interfere in any way, shape or form because I don't think there would be any further discretion from ice. And we've that we've seen already, which is almost none so I'm I'm not willing to go beyond That's already been discussed. An a# # . Our staff, whether it Parks, staff stepping into 3rd stage at a park where police officers to interfere and put themselves their family, their livelihoods at risk. Donald. >> So just for a couple more points of clarification, couldn't we amend the ordinance tonight and our give clear direction to include the language of us. We 54 what our current for 20 policy says under law enforcement and also that some of language from the Indivisible City resolution, if we were trying actually get through in 2 steps, first is coming back and doing a whole. Long-dated process some of my concern along with the community members is this is the thing that's giving us some teeth on how we're doing business. The thing that I'm hearing is that law enforcement doesn't comply unless those very specific, narrow areas. But potentially i think there's concern that maybe other departments could could give information or share information if they were approached. So I think for me, it's not just about what law enforcement's very clear in what 54 says and what we're able to do during policy and
police. But what do we have in place to make sure none of our departments are ever sharing information? And I I want to make sure that information goes or that goes into this. Please. This ordinance. So the urine Divisible City resolution that was passed in 2017 applies to all city employees. Okay. >> It includes police officers but it's all city employees. It's not just the police department and the resolution is clear. 2 employees. That's how we'll business in the city. Correct? Okay. Not for their their nation for the community as Stan okay I do see where Councilmember Okrepkie was saying it's not a bad idea even site that we do have these other things like at the end >> term paper. You're citing some of the things we already have in place so that when a community member reads this ordinance, they can go back and say these things are already in place in the city. And this is where you find that information for the protection of the community. But just to make it cleaner, we could just add that into the ordinance now who cares if it's twice, it makes people feel safer and better and easier for us to understand. why don't we just make it's our own policy. We do. We want actually so. >> I >> think some of the questions, chief that I've heard, too, is would have some of these actually committing a crime. We've heard about ice agents using children as bait to get people to come out of their buildings. And I think that's where some of the fear
comes to er parents not wanting to send their children to school for fear that someone will intervene and grab that child. So if that's to me, that's you go kidnapping a child for What would we do in that instance? If that came about because that's not an instance where you're, you know, going toe to toe. But mean, just for our communities now. >> Yeah, this is an important question that comes up a lot in community conversations as well. The law that's the most specific is assembly bill. 26 and that was passed in 2021. And that talks about a law enforcement duty to intercede. The thing, though, to be very clear is the duty to intercede is a narrow window of when you see the loss is clearly unlawful. Are excessive force. So that's what the Senate sits contained. If that you're a police officer and even if you see one of your peer police officers doing with clearly unlawful or except excessive force. You have to actions that your by policy and by law, you have to take your duty to stop that. The interceded it and second to report it, both of those are required by policy. We build that into our training. With that it becomes more complex when you're talking about and I saw per ation and doing federal agents in and cause you our officers are never going to be working side by side. 2 will be getting a call after the fact like that. Hey, we we saw some type of suspicious behavior. We get those now of like a kidnapping in Santa Rosa with the 2 and go out there. That's where it becomes more difficult. But officers are able to each one of those evaluating on a case-by-case basis. If our officers were able to see unlawful behavior, that it's occurring here are j# # #
# . Ocean that our officers would take action with it. But the one that's the most specific is the assembly bill. 26 on the duty to intercede. And we talked about that at the previous council session that an officer were to see that and be able to see clearly that it was unlawful behavior, that buyer policy by are training. They would act. I think that's also another. >> Nice piece of legislation that we can cite that we have these rules in place and so that the community's aware because I know you've said it, I've asked several times, but it feels like he's living in so many different places. I think the more information we can put together for communications and on our website so that our community obviously translated in both English in Spanish and other languages. It also, I think in beneficial when it comes to this. And while the language on. You know, not allowing ice Pacific on our sites is more powerful. I think this is clever way of actually making sure that there's not some sort of target. We're not. You know, we're putting on our community that this, you know, we're we're excluding an ice agent were saying if you don't meet our purposes, then you can't be on our property. And that gives us opportunity to actually stay a little more stealth, in my opinion, as opposed making a lot of toys. And that's not a bad thing. When we're looking at dealing with ice agents were saying you can't come there, we're not going allow it. But instead of saying straight out on the language, I see why you do it that way for lots of different reasons. And some of its just to protect the city,
maybe legally, but also to see how we can actually, I think it unintended consequence of Quincy. More. We call people out for says if we didn't stay under the wire on that, we still get the result that we want. But it doesn't put a target on us as much. I don't know if that was the justification of why you did that way or if we should just straight call it out and say no ice on on our properties. Can you give me a reasoning behind that? Well, certainly, you as we talked about before, ice does have some ability to come on our property and making sure that we are complying with legal standard. So that that this an enforceable ordinance. >> I'm understanding a goal. We want an ordinance that will stick and that we can actually use if we are in the situation where we need to enforce that, we would be able to go under the under the facts that presented the able to get an injunction against that use that violates the ordinance. So making sure we're following those standards and complying with. The legal requirements, was certainly a goal in how we crafted this. So making sure that really we're focusing on any use. Hear that would disrupt city property that the city purposes in the city's mission. We want to make sure that anyone who comes that their use of our property. And again, we're talking about. Not just used as any member of the public MAY, but use that really takes over a piece of
our property. It's only done when it really for there's a city use and there's authority to do that. And so that's a that's a neutral standard. And it's a standard that would apply to really any use. And and it specifically applies to eyes because we are declaring for all of the reasons that the assistant city manager said earlier. Of this presentation that ice use of city property is runs afoul to our mission. And so that's why it's crafted in this way. And I think we could really reaffirming what we do in our Indivisible City resolution as part of the latter parts of the ordinance, we could add that piece. I think it MAY be a good idea to create a website where we have all of page on our website where we have links to all of the things that we've done so community members can understand that there are things that live in other places. But I think as to the non-cooperation we could make reference to are Indivisible City resolution and what that means engagement which which worth noting city attorney that you help. Included that in the existing ordinance. >> So for the people who are watching a presentation tonight, you saw snippets that were their work cut out to make it digestible in in in this format. But if you take the time to go and read the 3 page ordinance or so it clarifies where this new ordinance actually fits within ecosystem of the anti ice protective city ordinances. So there MAY be ways to strengthen that language. But before we talk about that
further, I wanted to throw it over to city manager Farrow who might have thoughts on this on this subject. >> Thank you, mayor. This question is for the city attorney and staff in terms of strengthening this ordinance. If the council wants to go in that direction, would it be possible for us >> 13. 41, I'll call Uses city data. With that help too. We would have to explore what categories of data for there's information that the city hasn't. It. And Want to restrict from collaboration unless it is consistent with the penal code for the most violent crimes and that there was concern about flock cameras and things like that that have come up and then. Also clarify, use of of local law enforcement. That's a way to make it clear that with sb 54 and other and Divisible city ordinance, we have a non collaboration stance and then it's all contained in one ordinance. I don't know if that's clean. If that would be the way to do You know, I defer to you, you know, the ordinance and the codes much better, but it could be a way to encapsulate it all by saying no use of city property. No collaboration with local law enforcement on this for violent crimes and no use of city data. If those are the categories that the council wants to consider, I'm not sure if that's all of the items that you want to look at that perhaps that's one way to do it. >> We I think would need to look and I'm looking back to Chief Assistant City Attorney Adam Luna, who among others that I'm going to think at the end of this presentation because there there quite a collaboration of folks jumping in on in the city attorney's office. But we would
definitely want to look at weather. It is it would live at that particular chapter. We'd have to look at your code to figure out where it makes the most sense we could bake it into this ordinance. I think the question is can we get all of that to the finish line for you on this 7th or whether you want us to come back. It is it is to come back with a subsequent piece of legislation and let this one go as it is. And MAY make some sense to let this one go and do a quick amendment after. A question on that point because I think it was covered earlier with with sb 54, the city's individual ordinance are we are already in place. We covering data. >> I'm in awe of what I'm trying to. I'm trying to discern what changes that we're talking about. Here are substantive changes as opposed to just sort rhetorical strength innings. >> Yeah, I think I can answer that question. I mean, it is specifically covered an invisible Sonoma. Our individual, a city ordinance, and then also with the Senate bill. 54 and with our department policy. So those 3 things cover this very specifically and limit only under those serious or violent felonies as prescribed in Senate Bill. 54. >> so my gift is my understanding, correct? That we effectively have now what many of our public commenters were interested and we discussed in the day as in terms of noncooperation on data sharing, it is it is spread out in a way that sometimes can be confusing for the public. But it's and and and were were discussing how to make it clear to the public that we already have these
things in place. As well as what date with the addition of this new ordinance on what this new ordinance brings to the table. Mayor, if I could chime in, I think as city attorney Stricker mentions the potential of being able to collate all of this into one place. >> On city website, I believe our current website actually has done that. And it has already incorporated all of the resolutions or ordinances and actions the city has taken in an effort to the PRESIDENT In this discussion. So what we are doing that right now and we have the ability to continue to post in those spaces and provide additional information as we start bringing them forward. >> All right. So look at looking to council. Then we've got an ordinance on table now which provides just clear a path for a clear statement of how the city's number property and importantly, a clear and forcing mechanism. That's and that's an important addition. Future wordsmith, thing, education that can be done. The question is, do we want to do it on the dance right now do we? I'm saying I'm looking, I'm seeing I'm seeing head shaking. >> Nobody wants to make the sausage on the tapes. I mean, I understand we just don't want to do that. But I think for me is that we might know what we have been in place. The Reno are adopting tonight. What I'm hearing from the community is it's not clear all the things we have place. If we could put it on the website and do it more clear or cited in the ordinance or make something easy. I don't want to delay the adoption of the ordinance tonight because it still is giving us the teeth that we want to have in
place for the use of our properties. But I just want to make sure that there's a way that it's accumulated in this race so that everybody knows what we have in place. I think that's important, Lewis. >> I kind really like what the city manager suggested hearing from the community that the ordinance is not strong enough. I've heard that actually before the meeting and now and I agree. I I think I said this to the city attorney earlier today. It's not strong enough and I understand that we have bits and pieces here. Yeah, it's a visible and sb 54 and you know, all of that. I think it needs to be all in one place. And so I really like her idea of just adding those things and strengthening it and be more clear about what we're trying to convey because here's the thing that bothers me about this whole thing is that I know we're trying to keep from being anything happening with the Justice Department and all those things because if we break the law, we are held accountable. But when they break the law, they are not. And that's the reality that we're dealing with. And so with that in mind, I just think we need to be as clear as we can and and put it all in one place. Not just for us, but for the public. So I'm I'm reviewing the end. A visible city resolution it actually doesn't have that provision in there. So I do think there is room. >> To think about how to apply that 2 other. 2 other agencies. Am going recommend that. So when we bring something back, it's thought out that we do it in 2 steps
that you move this one forward. We don't have to wait for this to go into effect to amend it because the second one won't come until it will come into effect later. So we could then bring you another ordinance that addresses this, whether it's an amendment to this code or housed in a different place that makes more sense. We would. We will look at that internally as staff to make sure that your code is making some sense. But my recommendation is because I don't think it's just adding a line here we want to make sure that we capture and in a way that it is workable for and then meeting all of our obligations everywhere. So that my recommendation is to go ahead. It's the non collaboration peas that feels like he's missing week and we'll bring that one back to you. And we'll do it is as quickly as we reasonably can. It's been one those, the minimal that. So we've got a plan for the future. And right now we can. We can we feel comfortable moving this one We've got a motion table and a second. >> Leicester's further discussion. We're ready for the vote. MADAM City clerk, whenever you're ready. >> Thank you. Councilmember Rogers, Councilmember MacDonald, I councilmember Fleming, yes, Councilmember Ben Willows. Yes, Councilmember Alvarez, Vice Mayor Okrepkie. I mayor step yes. Let the record show that passes unanimously. >> Thank you all. And thanks to the community for coming out tonight. Thank you for your patience. But the fun is not over yet. If you stuck around this long, we've got
water price increases to discuss. And and inclusionary housing review. And as always, there are seats open in the front. If you want to move closer. Otherwise I'm looking at staff right now. The number and the number of staff in water versus planning, which everyone has more has that has the distinction going next? Who isn't? This is the planning department here. As Sonoma Water. Another agency. I'm I'm tempted to make county jokes, but I don't know if I can. All right. Heart rate who's going to be faster? How fast? Even to me? Is a county drag its heels. You had like 26 lives and that Dak. Are you going everyone? All right, fine. All right. Water when water wins the day. But this it better be quick. Yeah, I thought. MR. Mayor, I'm a graze. So want to thank assistant city manager Jason, not for extending appreciation to all of those who worked on this. >> There are a couple of people I wanted to add to the list I we had 3 assistant city attorneys that also contributed in one shape or form to this. And I just want to extend gratitude to assistant city attorneys, Ashley Crocker, Jenica Hepler and Hannah Ford Steal a who actually is. As of this week, a newly promoted to Assistant City Attorney. Outstanding we know is a team effort. Yes, thank you, Jason, thanks to thanks. The entire attorney's office. >> All right. And with that,
we are let's see. This is this is 15.1 right? Are Sonoma County Water Agency proposed fiscal year 2026. 2027 water transmission budget and rate increase. Given multi-year histories rate increases is only right to the city of Santa Rosa to make it makes you wait until that point. This late event, point justice. Welcome back. Know we have to have at least a cursory presentation showed are doing our jobs. All right. Who would like to kick us off? >> Thank you. Mayor stepped in members of council Nick Harvey, deputy director administration with center is a water were here today. Tonight's to talk to you about the proposed fiscal year, 26, 27 water transmission budgeting rate increase. So every year, as you know, center is a water in conjunction with the other contracting purchase, wholesale water from Sonoma Water undergo multi step collaborative process to to approve the proposed rate increase each year. That process started this year with the tack. The technical advisory committee from Sonoma, Water's of Finance Subcommittee. Approves. The proposal recommended it to the full technical advisory committee who then subsequently approved it then went to the board public utilities at the MARCH 5th meeting where they formally recommended the proposal for council's consideration. And at the end of this item, our hope is that councils ready to give instruction to its whack Councilmember Rogers, 2. Suggests how the council would like her to vote at the the a walk vote on APRIL 6th. It will then be considered by the county board of directors on APRIL 28th. I apologize little tired and trying to get my
thoughts together here and in in full disclosure. I think I think I MISS Rogers is delegated need to be at that meeting. So counselors to twist my arm for that for that vote. >> That is I know why. All right. There we go. Thank you. I just wanted to point out before handing over to MR. Spalding just want to point out there is one difference this year. >> With the probe with the re proposal bit we haven't had in several years past and that's that we have returned with our 24. 25 rate study. We have returned to the pass through >> rate aspect because we started to see several years of unpredictable rate increases. So we return to the pastoral. There's a slide later in the presentation which I'll explain the estimated net impacts to Santa Rosa rate pairs. With that, I will hand it MR. Spalding. All >> Thank you, takes balding on the financial services division manager with Sonoma Water. And then the sake of time, I'm gonna give you a very brief, very high level overview of our 26 27 proposed budget and rates. Then at the end of the presentation, I'm happy to answer any questions that you MAY have. So real quick, you know, little bit about Sonoma water. We're not just the wholesale water provider. We also do flood control and wastewater services. We have a very water transmission system includes all kinds of infrastructure that you can see on the slide here of note, you know, we have 3 different Aqua Ducks and the contractors are located on one of these 3 aqueducts and they pay the rate associated with that. And
I'm just saying that to say not everyone pays the same rate. So this time the cities obviously served by the Santa Rosa Aqueduct, which I'll get into the rates in a minute. Nick pretty much cover r r Transparent. Our collaborative process that we have every year. So I won't really go into too much detail here other than to say, you know, we do start in mid JANUARY. It is a collaboration with all the water contractors. We really do appreciate that collaboration and wanted to thank Nic, Jennifer and Peter as well for all their help in the process. That does allow us to then come to all the cities and councils and districts give the presentation and then get to our board before the end of APRIL. Little more about the system. You know, it its multiple funds. They all have their own budget and Then there's a composite rate that everyone pays. And I'll show you those rights in a minute challenges young. New here. We've talked about this in prior years. You know, we have aging infrastructure that we have. You know, costs have been increasing on that, we also have the need to replace a lot of this infrastructure. We also have, you know, the fact that we have a fully volumetric rate which puts pressure on on rate increases deliveries aren't increasing. Also, you know, we're vulnerable to natural hazards which we've talked about before, particularly earthquakes s# # # # . Those are some of the challenges that we're dealing with. You know, there also are a lot of achievements and collaboration that we've been going through. And I know you guys recently
had a presentation by our a chief engineer on our our cip program. So I won't go into these but, you know, we're always seeking offsetting funding to help reduce the rate increases to the community. And, you know, we're focused on resiliency, whether whether be drought to earthquakes and also things like education for local youth on water. So the fight everyone's actually interested in, you know, what are our proposed rates for? 26 27. They range from 8.2, 1 to 8.9 7 for the contractors served off the 3 main Aqua Dots. Santa conduct is the cheapest of those 3. Its proposed at a point to one percent and just wanted to point out, you know, that a gallon of water delivered through the system costs about a half a cent. Thanks. Checking all. Just jump in. Real quick to explain the estimated customer impacts for center is a water rate pairs. >> gets a little complicated, too. >> Explain how the rates affected when we have 2, 2, pieces of being affected. We have the piece of our rate that's affected by Sonoma Water's wholesale increase increasing Bay point to one percent. The part not affected by the Sonoma Water, wholesale rates increasing by 6% per the rates that were passed last year. So becomes kind of a weighted average. And so for the average customer in Santa Rosa, the average household of 4 based on average summer water use. He's about 8700 gallons a month for 4 and a half for 4.4 thousand gallons as the sewer cap or what we refer to as indoor water use. We differentiate between our tears as tier one. We're for choose indoor tier 2. Outdoor.
Just because of how he sewer caps, but basically. If we do the mask, it comes out to an estimated about $5. $0.33 impact or 6.4 net percent net effective rate impact for the center is a customer's I that's obviously only on the water side, not the suicide of the bill. >> So real quick, you know, I've listed on some of these slides, some of the projects that are in the budget. You know, we've got 3.5, 5 million for hazard mitigation projects. About 7.4 million dollars for other resiliency projects. So our total capital projects budget is about 10.9 million dollars. O and m side we're proposing roughly 49 million dollars in projects listed some of the higher priority ones on this line. And, you know, note on some of these, you know, we're trying to get a better understanding of the needs of the system so that we can better plan for the future. And what those needs are and what rate increases in the future will be that with our long-term, a financial plan, some of the projects you see here are really going aid in that process. You know, we have things like the Asset Management program as well as comprehensive master plan, which is going to better inform those future decisions. We also have the 4 main sub funds that have budgets associated with them. These fun things like the biological opinion, water management plan and water conservation. The total budget for those funds this year is about 10.1 million, which is an increase. What you'll see on this next slide. And that's really due to the fact we got issued the new 2025 biological opinion in APRIL of last year. So we are complying with the
requirements of the last biological opinion and some new requirements. So the costs for the compliance has gone up this year. You know, of on this slide, which shows you that our total budget is going to be 78.4 million dollars is, you know, it is actually a reduction of the budget from the prior year about 3.6 million dollars less than the prior year's budget. You'll also see on the slide that the capital program shows a big decrease. That's not actually a decrease in the amount of work we're doing. It's really a reflection of the fact that most of our capital programs are multi year projects. Last year budgeted for a lot of very large projects that are going to get awarded in MARCH and also in JUNE of this year. So the team is really busy, but we didn't need as much additional appropriations for capital projects in this budget season. This slide just shows you, you know, kind of a breakdown of where costs hit nothing. 2 big here. You can see operations and maintenance is our biggest category, followed by capital projects and then the sub funds and debt service. And we showed a slight every year and I'm going to breeze through it real quick. But basically what the agreement that we have with the water contractors says is that our rate is fully volumetric. We divide the cost of operating the system by the amount of water sold you the last 36 months of the last 12 months last 12 months, actual is or 36 months. Annual average. And that gives us our right. And this is just a, you know, an example. It's a simplified version. The amount of deliveries used this year is the 12 month Actuals. And that is actually 1.5% less than the amount we used last year. So that's putting some
pressure on the rates. And this slide just shows you a more of a breakdown of how the rate is calculated. You can see the difference sub funds in their charge in the capital charges. One thing we do point out on this slide is that there is this discretionary charge that heat, one of the contractors elects to put on them self and it acts as a rate stabilization tool and also allows them to build up fund balance for future capital projects on the different Aqua Ducks Santa Rosa and others on served by the center the Aqueduct elected to keep that charge the same as it was the previous year. So that $11 charge has not changed. And then, you know, looking into the future, we are required to budget annually. But we do to long-range financial planning. What I put up here is an example of what we think the next 5 years MAY look like. We do plan out for the next 20 years. But what we're showing you here is we are estimating that the next 5 years ago in average about 7.6% annually. There are some persons going into this. There's not a lot of growth there. So, you know, if we had more growth and we're anticipating here, rates would come down. There are also 2 very large bonds in this five-year window to fund some of the capital projects that we have in the out years. So that is putting some pressure on the rates. Of note. You know, when when we showed you this slide last year, everything was about one percent higher than it is in the slide. So in doing some more planning and pushing out some projects with sequencing. We have been able to bring that rate down. And then, you know, every water system is different. So this isn't meant to be an apples to apples comparison. But just on a
purely, you know, dollar per acre foot perspective. You know, we're just showing here that Sonoma water still does have relatively affordable water to the other wholesalers in the area. And key dates. I think we mentioned these before. The whack is plant planning on voting on APRIL 6 and then we'll take it to our board for adoption on APRIL 28th. And with that, I'll pass it back to Nic. And with that, it is recommended by the Board of Public Utilities and Center is the water that the City Council by motion consider Sonoma Water's proposed fiscal year 2026 27 water transmission budget and proposed rate increase. >> And provide direction to its water advisory committee representative for the 4/6/2026 walk Vote on Sonoma Water's proposed. 26 27 water transmission system. Budget Andrey increase and happy to take any questions. >> Jay connects thank you for that. Smooth persuasive presentations, spite of all the all the headwinds, bring it back to council for any questions. Seeing I will. This Rogers go for it? >> Really quickly, I'm sorry. I know we all want to go home. So $5.33 is not a lot to me. But there are some people many more nowadays that are struggling to survive. I specifically I'm thinking about some of our seniors that are out there. Are there programs that are available to help support them? What rate increase. >> Yes, councilmember, which we we have currently have the help to others program or the h 2 a program Santa Rosa Water. Unfortunately, it's it's pretty fully spoken for
at this point in terms of the revenues that were allowed to use. It's tricky providing financial assistance because of the restrictions of proposition 2.18, but we are working behind the scenes with You know, our team and advocacy team doing a lot of work, especially at the state level working on proposed legislation and hopefully the legislation. Some something comes through, that's more workable and remains compliant with that with those legal requirements and we're also looking for opportunities to enhance non repair of knew that we could use to fund that program and help more people out. But unfortunately, just from a legal perspective, we are somewhat hamstrung, but we're always looking for opportunities. Thank you. >> I just also add, you know, we do have the Sonoma Marin, water, saving partnership. They do offer a you know, water efficiency, things sell things like new toilets, more efficient toilets and stuff. So there could be savings there by implementing something to reduce their water use. >> Thank you both. Any other questions. And will open up to public comment or over at the public comment. Are there any members of the public like to comment on this item? Seeing? Am tired right now. All right. Bring it back to our to council for a motion Ms Rogers. >> I would like to make a motion to approve the Sonoma. Water's propose 2026. 27 water transmission system, budget and rate increase in direct the director, mayor or my soul. That's going in the city's water advisory committee whack. To vote
according to vote. Yes, at the last meeting on APRIL 6, 2026. I kind of said everything in our it you might. We have a motion and we have a second. Any final discussion. >> Alright, MADAM City Clerk. >> Mary did not hear who made the second. >> but the mice. Mayor, thank you. >> All right. Councilmember Rogers, I Councilmember Macdonald, I councilmember Fleming. Councilmember Ben Yes, Councilmember count Vice Mayor Okrepkie. Mayor step Let the record show this past the 6 affirmative votes in Councilmember Fleming. Absent. Thank you very much. >> All right, Jake, thanks stick around as long as you as long as you did. And Nick and thanks to the old team and we did notice the decrease in the rate in a project or rate increases in the next few years. Thank you for that. Alright planning, can you improve on that? All right. Let's see it. Item 15.2. This is our general plan and inclusion rehousing annual review report for 2025. Take it away. You also have 23 sites this week into a direct time comparison. >> This is this is not an auspicious start. >> Thank you. Good evening, mayor. Stop and members of the the item before you tonight is the general plan. An inclusionary housing and you'll review for 2025. >> The annual review report informs the public and decision-makers about progress in implementing the general plan and achieving city goals also includes the annual
review of the inclusionary housing ordinance. >> This is a requirement by the state Office of Land use and climate innovation as well as the Department of Housing and Community Development that Present this report to you as well as planning commission and submitted to them by APRIL. First each year. Council policy, 201 requires that the Council and Planning Commission hold a special joint study session for this. So we are also requesting today to waive this council policy and allow council and the Planning Commission to review them separately. Last JUNE, the council adopted at the new general Plan 2050, which describes aspirations and identifies started. For managing growth, preservation change this general plan provides policy framework to guide decision-making despite decision-making and funding of public improvement projects, including parks and streets. This updated at the new the new general plan 2050, now contains 7 chapters which spanned numerous elements and cover several goals policies and actions. And for the housing element, I will hand it off to a meaningful son. Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Mayor and council members. Just a quick note We saw a slight population increase JANUARY of last year compared to the previous year. And so there's been sort of an upward trend. The last 2 calendar years for senators as population following several years of decrease right around
the time of the Tubbs Fire in 2025. A total of 847 residential units had building permits issued the majority of those were for multi-family housing units and a smaller percentage were comprised of detached, single-family dwellings as well as accessory dwelling units. This chart here reflects the city's progress toward achieving its regional housing needs allocation. Otherwise known as Reena. And the Rena objectives. >> Are shown in the lower green bar last calendar year. There was some pretty steady progress made toward the very low and low-income categories, moderate income units continued to be a challenge for the city to produce. And the above moderate category as Really the bulk of the units just to kind of put a percentage on where we're at in the 3rd year of this reena cycle. Word about 31% of achieving are very low income category. 60% of our low-income category, which is very positive at 12% of moderate and 98% of above moderate. So keep in mind, we still have 5 years left in the housing element cycle. Just a quick note on the city's inclusionary housing This ordinance requires that we report out on an annual basis on its implementation. Summary for last year is that there were a total of 23 on-site affordable units that were provided by way of this ordinance. And that is not inclusive of all the affordable units that use on the previous slide. And that's because projects that are
entirely affordable are not subject to the inclusionary housing ordinance. So we saw a much more than 23 units last year. About 1.4 million dollars in fees were collected as required by the inclusionary housing ordinance. And so this is money that the city's housing authority can leverage to pay for new affordable developments as well as the rehabilitation or preservation of existing developments. Pass it back over to North. The report highlights several residential projects that are either under construction or in the building permits stage or in the planning review stage. >> And so here we've highlighted projects that are currently under construction right now. One of those is phase one of land strive, which has some very low-income units and the other is Casa Roseland up, which is a part of the here. They rose us masks, master plan and that is 100% affordable in. There are also non-residential new developments as well as policy projects that are either completing or are currently underway. One of those is the South Center is a specific plan which you all saw earlier today. The Stone House and is currently in planning review. It's an addition of 70 room hotel building to the existing historic said Stone House site Dave and Buster's New Arcade restaurant Bar at the Santa Rosa Plaza. Finished construction and opened its
stores this JANUARY. As well as the Ceres Community Project, which provides medically tailored meals to those in need construction took place throughout 2025 and they just opened in FEBRUARY. There were several I economic development initiatives that took place throughout 2025. 1 of those as the completion of the United Soccer League usl Market Opportunity Report a step in that direction toward 2 make Santa Rosa into more of a top sports tourism destination. 2025 staff also began exploring options for entertainment zones in downtown too. Further, strengthen economic vitality of downtown. Staff to care began process developing. Conditional use permit streamlining ordinance, which would reduce permitting requirements for several uses in order to encourage encourage business growth throughout the city. And the economic development team has undergone a created several business service programs that support various types of small businesses and entrepreneurs and micro entrepreneurs. The economic development team also implemented ongoing surveys and quarterly economic reporting to monitor district level trends, business challenges and service gaps. They established the downtown enhanced infrastructure financing. District has a long-term, a tool to fund infrastructure investments to catalyze private development and enhance walkability and sustainability and they for partnerships with small biz. It with the Small Business
Development Center and go local. The circulation elements covers both topics such as the transit network and the active Transportation plan. So last year there was the pilot transit maps and science and Signs installed to improve wayfinding between the transit mall and the downtown smart station. Transit also saw the continuation of the successful youth, unlimited rides and unlimited ridership programs. And in JULY of 2025, the council to adopt at the active transportation plan. And since then, the Transportation Public Works Department has already taken on several transportation safety projects throughout the city. And in 2025, the Red Book, Redwood Bike Share Program also launched has. Increased its. It's number of hubs throughout the city since its launch. Ok, moving into our open space and conservation elements last year. The construction started on the final phase of the Colgan Creek Restoration Project. >> And the city's creek team continued to partner on the Creek stewardship program. And this is a a program that helps too cleanup and enhance the miles of creeks within the city's urban growth boundary. Greenhouse gas emissions are really woven throughout the general plan. But there very focused and the open space and conservation chapter of the general plan as a council recalls the Greenhouse gas reduction strategy was part of the general plan which was adopted just last JUNE. And since that time staff has been working diligently to implement that strategy by way of programs or policies last year, planning and water
staff. Work together to set up a process for displaying all of the work that's happening behind the scenes to the public and to decision makers with the goal of launching that this summer. The general plan also includes several optional elements, including historic cultural and tribal cultural resources. Some examples of how these topics further implemented last year include the Cannery a railroad square project. This development was able to retain the historic cannery walls. And it's great feature of that project in our downtown. In addition, staff was able to partner with the historical Society of Santa Rosa to relaunch some walking tours within 4 of the preservation districts. And these are now and Google maps formats makes a little it be easier for people to move about the area and then finally, although it's not always publicized, staff works very closely with both local tribes for both capital improvement projects, as well as private development projects before they come to our city's review. Authorities. And so that ongoing collaboration and consultation continue throughout last year. And the general plan also includes an art and culture element. Last year we saw the installation some temporary public art projects, as well as a temporary art walk in the downtown and the launching of
an arts round table. To encourage further dialogue. Safety is a mandatory element of the general plan and it has a lot of overlapping content with climate resilience. So when we're talking about climate resilience, we mean how prepared is the city to respond in the event of a lot of natural disasters that are exacerbated by climate change. As you heard earlier this evening from our fire marshal, the fire department has been doing a lot of work related to climate resilience in safety and updating the wildland-urban interface boundary as well as update to the community. Wildfire protection plan. Staff also completed a public draft of the hazard mitigation plans to this ensures the city is eligible for as much reimbursement money as possible. Following a disaster and continue to work closely with fema on flood mapping. And strength and emergency preparedness. The public services. I lament of the general plan. >> Lays out several goals, policies and actions related to police protection and fire services and 2025. The new downtown substation Open at the Santa Rosa Plaza to enhance presence in the area. This was in coordination with Simon benefits both the mall and the general downtown area. That's apd also continue to oversee the in response mental health. So support team program. And as our response time to priority one incidents and 2025 representative a 5% improvement since 2024. Santa
Rosa Fire Department did increase. Did experience increasing volume of calls for service approximately 12% increase over the last 3 years. And the fire department currently has a standards of cover and community risk assessment underway. And in 2025 fire station that. Completed its construction. Water, use efficiency programs and state and local or requirements. I have resulted in a 50% decrease in demand for potable water over the past. 35 years, which represents a change from 177 gallons per capita per day to 88 per day. From 1990, to 2025. And the Laguna Treatment plant is undergoing upgrades to the disinfection system, which will bring that peak flow to about 70 million gallons per day once completed. There are also goals, policies and actions related to health equity and environmental justice. The city now requires health impact assessments for large nonresidential projects that are located and equity a priority areas in order to address potential health impacts to those areas. The city also has now implemented a tobacco retail license program which caps the number of tobacco retailers. So we're currently not giving out any more of those licenses and the conditional use permit streamlining propose changes that I discussed earlier also include reduced permitting requirements for grocery stores. For that meeting,
general pans goals guards to public health the city partnered with the regional childcare agencies in order identify barriers and created a guide to help residents launched their own license home base, childcare businesses, which supports both families and work for stability. And the violence prevent it. Prevention Partnership developed and launched the Street Outreach and Christ Crisis Response team in JANUARY of 2025. As well as the team. Culinary job Training pilot program in JUNE of 2025. The Parks Department has several renovation projects such as the Dutch Florida neighborhood park in Northwest Santa Rosa and renovations to the courts. How Earth and Calvin community Parks. Martin Luther King Junior Neighborhood Park Master plan was approved I counsel and FEBRUARY 2026. And the initial segment of the Roseland Creek Trail. Pathway was installed, which improved bike and pedestrian connection across future. The future rose a community park site to access nearby schools. The planning and economic Development Department recommends that the council by motion one way of the council policy too. 201 requirement for a joint study session with the Planning Commission to review the status implementation of the general plan. And I do want to add, I forgot to mention this. We do have planning commission is scheduled for this Thursday. So we will be doing this same report item with them. And to review and accept the general plan. An inclusionary housing annual review report for 2025.
If there are any questions. Last time I checked, we had other staff available on Zoom. I'm not sure thank and thank are tempting me to test that. But >> thank you both for the presentation and all seriousness. This is a walk through how much the city has going on. I think some a ticket to planning aggregating all this data, but just to the city in general you know, having this many interesting, complicated projects underway wants so bring it back to council for any questions. If it were 2 hours earlier, I beat Hampton. I don't think I can work of the energy right now. Having said that in any many members of the public here was to make comment on this item. Seeing no members of the public wishing to make a public comment. I'm going to bring this back to MISTER Craig Key for a motion. I move a motion to one way. The council policy, 200 Dash 0, one requirement for joint study session with the Planning Commission to review the status and implement implementation of the general plan and to review. And except the general plan, an inclusionary housing report for 2025. >> a motion and a second by MISS Rogers. MADAM City clerk, you can call the vote whenever you're ready. >> Thank you, Mayor Councilmember Rogers asked for comments, but I'm gonna give you mine anyway. I would really like to thank staff for the hard work in collaboration that you guys continue to do to make our city a great place to live. >> Work in play is definitely appreciated. I know we all want to go to sleep but I couldn't pass up the
opportunity to say thank you. >> Councilmember I councilmember Fleming. Councilmember Ben Willows. Yes, Vice Cookie. Mayor sap. Yes. Let the record show this passes. 6 affirmative votes and Councilmember Fleming absent. >> All right. It says. And a sincere thanks again for the presentation for sticking around is as long as you didn't team. And with that, we are not done yet. We have more. Who wants to stick around for the minutes. I do. Let's pop back. So the fun never ends. Let's pop back to item are item 12 approval of minutes. Were there any looking at my colleagues any edits to the minutes? All right. Any members of the public wish to comment on the minutes? Then we from adopt the minutes as submitted saying no to the Members of the public wishing to comment on item 13 consent. We had 2 recusals of him or if I'm recalling correctly, I think we had Ms MacDonald from item 13.1 and MISTER Crappie from 13.5. Was that accurate? Oh, I'm sorry. MADAM City clerk, I do have minor clerical correction that was identified on on the item from water. There was language that was incorrectly a dollar amount on the item. >> That was incorrect on the agenda. But it was accurate in the resolution. Upon review. It was a difference of $303.50. So. >> just pull that from Jennifer's budget. How do we resolve that? >> You know, it was correct on the resolution. So there's no need to correct Santa Rosa Waters budget. And this is just at substantially compliant with the Brown Act. We just wanted to bring it to council's attention that the adopted resolution does have a different dollar amounts. I
did. Thank you for that clarification. >> All right. So back back to consent. We have the 2 items that were we have reached recusals on looking for a motion and that scene was MR. Over Yes, mayor from Brees, I like make a motion that adopt consent items. 13.1, 2 through 13.3 with vice mayor of creepy. We're squeezing item 13.5 and council member Mike always using recusing herself from item 13.1. And with the correction stated MADAM City Clerk on 13.1. And we further reading of the text. Said motion work. MADAM City Attorney. All right. Perfect. And we have a second. All right. Our second by motion, a second by MISS Rogers. Oh, yes, doing numbers. The public wish to comment on consent. Always forgetting that. All right. Senior members of the home of the public wishing to I think we're good for the vote whenever you're ready. MADAM City clerk, I do want to correct that. The item that had the minor clerical correction was. >> Item. 13.9. It was 13.9. I believe councilmember offer as a 13.1. >> I did. And I correct myself and stating there should have been 13.9. Thank you. >> Okay. Councilmember Rogers, Councilmember MacDonald, I Councilmember Fleming is absent councilmember. And while most yes, I Vice Mayor Okrepkie I mayor step. I let the record show this passes 6 affirmative votes and Councilmember Fleming absent. >> Thank you. Alright, we'll
pop ahead. You. I am 18. Our last public comment tonight on non agenda matters the evening. Are there any members of public who wish to make comment on items not listed on the agenda? Brees, the floor is yours. >> Mayor, how much time is being allotted for the speaker? >> 3 minutes front. Thank you. >> Hi, my name is Lindsay Guy came up here. I think it was leaked. AUGUST, but I think is more like SEPTEMBER OCTOBER, discussing the fact that I was risk factor for children I believe I did at the end of the meeting and that was silence. Afterwards. As I said, I Now was a victim. Now I am now a pedophile and thank you. Thank you. I might add for you guys. Absolutely saying nothing. Because now I've got a problem. Months later and you've got a rehab. Not promising to be sober, but, you know, hey, you can go with women and children because I admitted that I had a problem because of the victim. And now I'm asking you guys what you would like me to do or would you like me to return to a cage? Or I could not move on with my life and not have to worry about it. I don't mean any disrespect, but I'm going to talk to the risk management office tomorrow. Also, then city attorney. But to this point, I'm unable to function and I don't need to respect quite frankly. No one said a word and I've asked almost. Multiple police officers and booking and did some minor research in library. But I'm a homeless drug addict now prostituting myself up for dope. Because I don't have any desire to become clean. Now that doesn't make me a bad person. It just makes me a drug addict right
now. I'm not thinking that's the worst idea considering on the drug addict that was worried about it. So I'm gonna Excuse myself because I get a little nervous, but I will come back probably tomorrow, sometime within this week. To ask what you like me do. I would like a tattoo. For some kind of marking this like now. And so I don't have to make this. Hi, I'm Lindsey. I don't say my name is that high. I belong on the list. Keep your family safe. I avoid parkside point schools. Especially during school hours. And if I'm the around children, I generally try to say it. It's been months now. I know what else to do, but I'm not going not say it, but the minute I don't. It's probably the minute I'll get in trouble. And is really what you want? You need to help me protect me. Protecting your kids because that would hurt me if I hurt them. Excuse myself. Thank you. >> Thank you. See, you know, no other members of the public here. We are adjourned. Thank you, everyone.