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order. MADAM City clerk. >> Thank you, Mayor. Councilmember Rogers, I can remember Councilmember Okrepkie councilmember MacDonald, Councilmember Fleming Air Councilmember Ben Willows Vice Mayor Alvarez present Mayor step here. Let the record show that all councilmembers are present. >> Thank you. I'd like to announce the consent consent items. 13.4, 13.11 13.12 have been continued stalk JULY 8th 2025 regular meeting. And then I would like to also announce item 3.1 are closed session item. Conference with legal counsel pertaining to existing litigation. We will open this up to public comment for any member the public would like to speak on this item. Seeing none. We'll close public comment and we will recess in a closed session. Welcome back, everyone. The time is the time is 4 o'clock me that. >> It was had those soda. >> Sorry I need to be put into interpretation Channel Place. Thank you. We'll do one moment. Thank you, Mayor. We are good. You see is now in the Spanish Channel. >> Thank you. Right. It's time to time is 4 o'clock and will reconvene in open session. MADAM City Clerk, would you please call the roll? >> Thank you. Mayor Councilmember Rogers as crappie. Councilmember MacDonald here, Councilmember Fleming. Council member of n y Los Vice Mayor Alvarez present Mayor step here. Let the record show all councilmembers are present. >> Thank We will move on to item 6.1. Our report on or close session. MADAM City
Attorney. Sorry, I'm catching you as you're in transit k, thank you, MISTER There's no reportable action. I did, however, want to indicate that Crappie recuse from the closed session based on a professional relationship. Thank you for that. We will go to item 7.1. Our proclamation on lgbtq Pride Month. Yes. Are we all so proud to be here today to read really important proclamation? >> Whereas the city of Santa Rosa recognizes the month of JUNE as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and questioning lgbt q plus Pride Month. JUNE is recognized nationally as lgbtq+ Pride Month. A time to honor the history struggles and achievements of the lgbtq+ community. And whereas the history of this community's movement is based on grassroots activism here in Sonoma County. The active this activism demonstrates the resilience, courage and determination of many who have fought continue to fight for equality history. Rich in triumph over oppression serves as an inspiration for the lgbtq. Communities both for the present and the future. And whereas Santa Rosa is proud to be a diverse, welcoming and inclusive community that values dignity and the worth of each individual regardless of sexual orientation, gender or gender expression. And whereas lgbtq individuals have made invaluable contributions to
the cultural civic economic and social fabric. The beautiful city of Santa Rosa. And whereas the city of centers that commits to fostering a city everyone is free to live authentically live openly and thrive without fear. Now, therefore, be it resolved that on behalf of Marc stab mayor of the city of Santa Rosa on behalf of the entire council in recognition of our community does hereby proclaim JUNE 2025. To be lgbtq+. Pride Month. And encourage all residents to honor this observance. Of authenticity and love. And I don't think that there could possibly be the more important moment to stop and recognize. Communities here. So thank you for coming out today. Thank you, indeed. And we have joined us on in here to say a few words of after the group. >> Jori want as you head up to the podium up top. Yes. Thank you all for coming out. It's nice to see a large group. >> Hello, everyone. My name is Troy Besson in and I work with lgbtq connection. I mean at the cake carrying forth a mission for radical justice and celebrating communal solidarity. Thank you. Mayor staff in the sit in the Santa Rosa City Council for proclamation that declares June as Pride Month here in Santa Rosa. As a queer individual and a Santa Rosa native. It is my honor to be accepting this proclamation on behalf of the lgbtq+ community here in Santa Rosa. This proclamation means more than words can say it reflects a commitment to equality, respect and safety in this city. This proclamation honors our queer and qt Bipoc Elders. We'll fight against injustice and update the way for queer youth and adults. The younger clear generations will continue our clear elders
legacies. This moment is for all of our clear community members and the allies who defend us. As we celebrate as we celebrate pride, we must acknowledge the intersectionality is that exist within our community. Queer Trans Black, indigenous and people of color in compass. Some of the most marginalized members of the lgbtq+ community. Qt. Bipoc individuals face multiple forms of oppression, racism, transphobia, xenophobia, and queer phobia. Indigenous understandings of sexuality and gender have been widely embraced under a colonial and imperialists lens. We must not forget the monumental role that Cutie Bipoc individuals have played in our community. Cutie Bipoc individuals have contributed immensely to transformative justice and make it and make valuable change for our community and beyond. We must recognize that cutie Bipoc voices are rather silence than uplifted. To the bipoc individuals need our continued support. We should be amplifying their voices representing them and providing inclusive spaces for them to threats. Lgbtq+ community is an extraordinary spectrum orientations and identities as their comprehension of to bipoc identities expands. I hope our efforts to serve our community members well as well. There's a collective hope that the city of Santa Rosa can recognize and acknowledge the ongoing struggle for liberation for the lgbtq+ community and persist in promoting equality and inclusion for all. Thank you so much. And happy Redmond. >> Joy, thank you so much. And in just a minute, we wanted to a photo with the entire group down front before we do that. Are there any other members of the public would like to speak? Seeing seeing is did you raise your hand? Why don't you make your way to the to the top podium cern and the
microphones, all yours. >> Good afternoon, everybody. This is my second time speaking here. So I'm not really familiar with. All the procedures, but I'm at my wit's hand. My neighbors. Our crack to have aches. Serviced for public comments just for this item. Well, we asked anybody wanted to speak so. I should I should have been more clear. Alright, we will. We will have you back in just a Seeing northern members of the public who wish to speak. >> What everyone who's here as it's part of the group coming out in front of a little quick photo. Thanks again for coming out. Thanks again for making way here tonight. We will move on to item 8.1 our summertime construction update. Can. Hennessy is handling this one come on down. Transportation public Works Department >> here to do a very brief capital improvement update. As we just recently started construction season and have a number of items that either had just kicked off or are about to. So I'll be back in AUGUST on a less busy council day to do a more complete overview of the capital improvement program northeast. And but just 5 provide an update items that you'll see shortly our residential pavement maintenance program will kick off in the coming weeks. With a number of streets on the west side of town. You see the section between this MARCH acts and Fulton Road and north of kernville south of Pine or residential streets that will be getting a slurry treatment to prolong useful life of those streets. That will
continue to the north of Greenville Road up towards Jacqueline, an elementary school and along San Miguel. You'll see that work happening in the next week through JULY. Encounter with and that I should that approval of that contract is on your consent agenda for this meeting. You also see, Shirley, this is what work likely to get started in AUGUST on arterial streets and the same general area. The city on Steel Lane, Dunn Avenue and College Avenue similar to what we have discussed in the past. These are opportunities not just for payment treatments, but also for review of safety improvements. Crosswalks bike lanes and other intersection improvements that need to be made at those locations. So there are a few complimentary improvements at those locations that well, the part of those pavement maintenance projects that work is anticipated to be done in AUGUST. We've just close bids on additional work in the Roseland area from the county on the top. There you see South Avenue that will get repaid next month on the bottom. There you see Western Avenue west of Stony Point Road that's also slated to get improvements and a South Avenue has been a point of contention with a number of we do a lot of debris pick up there. We're hoping that kind of additionally to the infrastructure improvement, the aesthetic improvement that corresponds with the payment will also help lift up that area. But that's all done through annexation agreement with the county. For parks. We have just to construction contract for Dash 4 park. That
notice to proceed has been issued. We're waiting on an insurance agreement to come in and then you will see work happening out there. We have a bit opportunity coming up later this month for Aquinas Springs Community Garden on the South side of Colorado Springs. And then at South Davis Park, we just had a big opportunity close there. And we look forward to getting a contractor out there later this summer, too, turn this green space along the freeway into a playground with some other park improvements. There. We also will have the power park and Gallon Park tennis court and pickleball court improvements kicking off later this summer. And looking forward to getting those out to bid and the next couple weeks. Right now under construction, fencing has gone up and notice. Proceed has been issued for the Colgan Creek Project that this council approved 2 meetings ago to creek Restoration Trail improvements, a new bridge over the creek. But team JULY is out there. They fenced off the area and they have begun working in and around the creek for some of the mowing and landscaping has started. If you have an opportunity to go out there and see it, that will compliment this sections to the north where the trail and the creek meet. I run into the area where the current community hub will be and then to the west where there's been recent development along Done Meadow Road and Belleview Avenue. Other projects that are in progress. The hoist projects that this council help fund year and a half ago, that contract has been approved. That notice to
proceed has been issued again, waiting on insurance agreement from that contractor. But they're ordering the equipment that will be there at some of the site prep work has been done. So that is moving. Our free division is very excited about that. And then just as a broad overview as of with your approval, but their potential approval of the contract today, we will have awarded more contracts in 2025 and we didn't all of 2024 with the contracts that we have stated for the rest of the summer. We will meet the number for 2023 2024 combined by SEPTEMBER. So real pickup and construction and capital project delivery activity and the last 12 months. Our team excited to see a lot of this going to construction and are contracting partners are a lot excited to see a lot of forward. Before we wanted to so we're transitioning from the transportation portion of passed measure am to go cinema. That Ctca has asked us to submit applications for projects that will be part of that. I'm using the privatization criteria that we talked about last year. We have 10 projects up there on the screen that 5th, the criteria prior station criteria that we talked about being projects that close to schools close the parks benefit kids on the high injury network, supportive of economic development in the city. Part of our climate resiliency and our our wildfire protection so some of these are safety studies or safety improvements along corridors. Couple that I did want to highlight, we have on here a shared use path and joint fire break on the Farmers Line extension area where we would propose to
build a path that would be for walking and biking. But that could also be used in turn emergencies for you. There. Emergency access or for evacuations. So we we know that we're not able to fund a full roadway section through there right now, but we could build a with the support of the sec t ca. So we're looking for any feedback you have about these priorities. If there's any changes from the priors. Ation discussion that we had last summer through the fall really excited about these projects. They're they're at the top of our list, an active transportation plan and the pavement maintenance plan. They serve a number of goals. So was not hard to come up with this list of 10. But if there's anything on your minds, then we'd be happy to take that feedback. As we finalize those applications, you'll see those in early AUGUST before we submit them to the cdc. It. With that. I'm happy to answer any questions. Thanks. Director Hennessy. There was a lot of that stuff and they're bringing it back to my colleagues for questions. Vice mayor which kicks off. >> Thank you, question. When did you see that the construction would start on on a single something sweet. >> And that would be the pavement. And so that was that would be in late JULY and AUGUST. Perfect. Thank >> Thanks for the presentation. I just had a question on the firebreak portion of this. So you see that you have one over here by Bennett Valley and one is springs. Are there any others planned specifically on the east side of town where we know that we've had fires fire issues before. Do you do you have any money or funds for
that or do we have any other locations? We have locations. So part of the active transportation plan is noting additional trails or >> pieces of asphalt or concrete that can act as fire breaks. So there's no dedicated funding for that. But where aware of that? And that's part of those plans so that we can use that to ritize and respond to grant opportunities, things like that in the future. So with your with your love of flashy slides in big numbers, you did not include a slide showing our capital expenditures in 2025. Wouldn't. It wouldn't equal 2023 plus 0.20. 24 to I hear that correctly. >> Our number of contracts. Well, so the number of projects we've got out, I don't know about the total award amount. I can check that for you. Not bring up, bring full set of numbers next time I come. But give a rough estimate. >> think we're close. And, you know, to be totally transparent if we. >> Are able to bid the bicycle pedestrian overcrossing in the fall as we anticipate. I i somebody else will be doing We have in a knot. >> do. We have that commitment in the minutes. We have. All the approvals we need from pg we have all the approvals we need from Caltrans. We're waiting for one piece of paperwork from Caltrans to center mtc. And then we will be on the California Transportation Commission agenda in AUGUST. And that will be our final approval. We need we can. But the project town excellent. And in terms of a rough terms are rough. Dollar amount total for all the projects in 2025. Anything the ballpark. >> Is it 8 figures? 9 figures.
It's 9. It's low. 9 figures. Yeah. Are pumping 9 figures worth of where the worth of money into the local economy. At the same time as we're rebuilding our local infrastructure were were high. >> would be high 8 right now. If we did nothing else for the rest of the year. Excellent. MR. Rogers. It's not a question. It's a comment. I just want to thank you for your passion. >> That you have brought to the city of Santa Rosa. And with that, you bring it to your team. So thank you very much everything that you appreciate that. But I think it's opposite. Team does all the work and I get to be the messenger. So. >> Thank you for highlighting them. Well, your great messenger. And it's a good team to be a part of top to bottom. I just a couple of other small questions. Roughly how measure dd funds are we putting into play this year? That's a question. I have to come back. All right. I think I thought I saw somewhere that it's in the low low 7 figures. 2.7, something like that. MADAM City manager. All right. Why don't I will commit us to it. But just for that, for the public's the public was kind enough to vote in a couple of ballot measures in recent years, including measure Didi, which will be pumping eventually, if not this year around 2.7 million every year into the into road maintenance. And those pictures that you included in your slides very bravely that that she was the reason why. And then again, I measure the County wide initiative for parks that again, is going to bring some additional millions into into Santa Rosa to depart
parks, maintenance and locally. And with the changes that we made internally with your leadership and with the great work by the team, all of that money is being put into action, which is really exciting part of your report is that not only that are do we have funds in the door we're putting we're putting these out to bid and we're making improvements with our with our local infrastructure. All right. And let's go to public comment on this item. Are there any members of the public here who would like to praise our Department of Public Works team for the for the effort they're putting forward. Seeing none. Bring it back to council for any final comments, ok? My colleagues, Vice Mayor. >> All those not the repaving. Are there sidewalks going? It's that same street that was just booked. Well, at this our list of we need to get there Because I know we have aunts yet on the that on consent County where we have a grant from. We're a petition for I'm hoping that, you know, just keep telling thank you doing what you're doing, especially the Colgan Phase in the collection And then with these are streets in. These are places Davis and remembering the entire park. Those are things that I know of the district. Community looks at the icon. Places in the community to see the change there. It's it's great, especially think about the gun and the West Ave. And now point that she is to connect both sides of the the corridors. Good jump. Thank Thank you. Hear hear other comments. Final comments from the group. >> I don't know the actual
number, but there's a whole lot ok, per that's all I was looking for. Really. That's what I want to We're taking for that will add that to the minutes, too now. Dan, thank Thank you very much. Thanks to the whole team. This is all great news for the city. Move on to item report of settlements and active litigation. Thank you, MR. Mayor. I have one settlement to report that was previously authorized by council in closed session and was finalized in That settlement was in United States tax row. John Hendricks, purses, j and manufacturing Company Inc at all in that case 15 years ago, the city of Santa Rosa, along with 34 other public entered entities, intervene as plaintiffs in a false claims lawsuit brought against and manufacturing the world's largest pc manufacturer and its parent company. Under the terms of the settlement that is now final. The city dismissed its claims or will dismiss its claims in exchange for Jm manufacturing company providing the city with a 50 year retroactive extended warranty for all jm pipe paid for reimbursement the city for use on city projects. The city further agreed to treat jam like all other suppliers and remove language from the city's current design and construction standards. That preclude use a pvc pipe manufactured by Jm on city construction projects. Because the city was represented by outside legal counsel on a
contingency fee basis. The city incurred no attorneys fees and no litigation costs and connects in connection with this protracted case. Otherwise our caseload remains relatively constant. We have 32 current litigation matters. Many cases are currently in the discovery phase with trial dates assigned to most. If you are in the appellate stage. As always, we continue to try to resolve smaller cases at little or no cost to the city. And that is the end of my report. Thank you. MADAM City, attorney and city manager Smith did not mean to skip over Any reports on your end? >> I have nothing to report. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Moving on to item 10 statements of abstention refusal by council members. I think we have a couple statements of abstention today. Do we not? MR. Donald. >> Thank you, Mayor. I'll be abstaining from 2 parts of the budget. Adoption under parks and recreation due to a personal relationship. Thank you. Any other statements of abstention were queues MR. Rogers? I'll be abstaining. >> From a >> part for the homeless services program. The budget. All right. Thank you. Noted. We will get on to Stern pope's mayor. I will be recusing from item 13. Trying 13, 13. >> that item is a combination of many items, one of which includes an amendment to my employment agreement. And I'm going to hand the mike, the city manager. >> Thank you. City attorney. I will be recused recusing from 13, 13 as this is an employment agreement for the city manager. Thank you both. Are there any other statements of a stationary recusal, MR.
Rogers? >> Where the minute I didn't state, why was your choosing? And I am Rick using because I sit on a board that it not get paid to sit on. But in the past they've received funds from the city. And so I need to recuse any potential conflicts that MAY come up with thank you. We thank you for your service and that board. All right. >> Moving on to item 11, mayor and Councilmembers reports to any councilmembers have reports that they'd like to mention this evening. Can do the running. >> a good time was had by all on Friday as we open the brand-new Windsor station and we had our ribbon cutting out there and hundreds of people come out to celebrate this and we plan to go to Healdsburg and Geyserville and Cloverdale as soon as we can get there. So we'll hopefully adding MR. Hennessy's long list of of contracts that not executed by the city of Santa Rosa. But and the county of Sonoma and beyond. And then yesterday we had great chance to cut the ribbon a splash pad over at Findlay Park, which is really sweet. Right after that, Councilmember Ben Wills and I came to city Hall too, to officially open enhanced Infrastructure Finance district, which is a collaboration between the city and the county. It's going to get past the vote. Vo there is only one protest out of over 1700 potential protesters. So we consider that a pretty good job by staff in terms of getting the word out and socializing in and as for folks who don't know, it's
going to take a portion of future tax increment. Not going to raise taxes, but it's going to divert some of taxes mostly coming from the county would would would have gone to the county and some of would have gone to the city's general fund. Will be reinvested in the downtown where the money raised and that will. Ideally enhance our economic engine that would color downtown. So look forward to reporting on more of that as we get into our projects and and we start collecting revenues in the next year. Thank you. MISS MacDonald. >> Thank you, mayor. Just a couple quick things I'd like to appoint Aires Herald to the board public Safety and Prevention Tax Oversight Committee as my new appointee and think Miami be Lee for her years of service. She has asked to go up that committee, but I just want to publicly thank her. And then I attended along with some of my colleagues, the and I'm probably going to say this front that on us when they got a staff c okay, it ended. Those are words and I just want to congratulate all the a word winters am everything they got. Quit laughing at me. Mayor. Thank you. MISS Been Wales. Thank you, mayor. >> Just a couple I attended chamber advocacy meeting last week had really good discussion with the around the budget and economic development for downtown and probably go and visit them
again very soon. Yes, we also attended the Lowe's, the San Quentin Awards. Really, I also want to congratulate the winners, a particularly my from a colleague that go to Arianna Martinez and Francisco Vasquez, who also is a long-time mentor for us in the Latino community. And the other thing, of course, yesterday, the ribbon cutting at Finland Aquatic Center. I just wanted to thank staff and everyone that came out yesterday was so. >> It was just so so so many kids and so excited. You know, just a really positive thing for the community. >> And of course, for the 5th district. Thank you all. >> Thank you. MISS Been Willows. A few items for me. Was able to filling in for Ms Fleming on the Snow, Clean Power a couple of weeks ago. And it was a great discussion. There is the board. The board decided to give us a McLean powers executive team to go ahead to explore the possibility of opening up services in Lake County. So imagine that in Lake County right now are much of Sonoma, clean power. Electricity is produced electricity that we use. Those residents are not able to access that. And instead in the rural districts up, there are many cases they are burning wood burning, protein, propane using all sorts of not not very climate-friendly material to to, to heat their homes. And clean power is going to explore with various groups in Lake County, the possibility of opening up some clean power service there, which would save residents money. And also, I significantly lower their carbon footprint. And then on the Jennifer Burke, who is not here tonight are director of of Waters of Centers of Water. We attended the change of command ceremony at the Army Corps of Engineers in San Francisco, which was
fantastic. The Army Corps of Engineers has been a wonderful partner to Santa Rosa and Sonoma County on a number of big capital projects, including currently out on the lawn, a wastewater trunk line. And so we were able to say farewell and say thanks to the outgoing lieutenant colonel and say hello to the incoming lieutenant colonel who looks forward to coming up in touring our facilities and working closely with the city of Santa Rosa. On the 12th. We had a mayors and councilmembers association meeting, as you read as people MAY recall from our last discussion here, the mayors and the 9 cities were part of the mayors and Councilmembers Association. We are working very closely with the county this year on 3 items, first and foremost, homelessness services that also county resilience and then finally shared capital resources in the county. Mayor Judah, Chandler Park and I will sitting on an ad hoc committee along with we believe Chris Coursey and James Gore and and using that ad hoc committee is a way of working more closely with the county on behalf of all the cities and pushing some of these initiatives forward. And then finally, I want to say, I want to say thank you to both city and county staff for making the mlk Juneteenth community celebrations such a success on Saturday in the midst of the No Kings rallies, which was which were rightfully attracting a lot of attention locally. We had an eye yet another packed courthouse square downtown. There have been a lot of those recently. Juneteenth was a wonderful celebration. Thanks to the community groups, especially especially the North Bay Black Chamber who made that possible and was great to have the city
be a part of that. So thanks to all who attended. And with we will move on to item 11.2 point. Oh, actually, we have do public comment. I'm remembering this week public comment on that item. When a member the public like to comment on the mayor isn't common. Councilmembers reports. Seeing none. We'll go on to item a request for an agenda item regarding the hiring of an outside consulting group to complete department Estes for efficiencies, MR. Donald, I believe this was your motion last week. Would you like to say a few words? Either. So I can offer a Russian now a lot of times >> organizations are in deficit spending or going through any type of fiscal crisis is often a good idea to bring in outside consultants to look for efficiencies within the different I'd spoken at length with this with city manager. And so I'm pacing the motion. On the table once we discuss so that she has the authority to go out for rfp for this particular item. >> Thank you. And I will look to colleagues first for any questions or comments on this item. I would like to turn it my colleagues are considering that I would I would like to confirm with the city manager just the specifics in her mind with Rick with regard to this item. Yeah, thank you The question MAY or so. We've been talking about bringing in an outside consultant. Just the look at the structure of the organization. There have been assessments done several years from now. It several years ago. >> Some of those had not been implemented. So I have been working with staff to talk
about. You know, how are the department's structured? Do we have the right classifications? And some of this came on the heels of us doing a class cop study as well. So I was already in the process of working through an b to get a consultant on board. So we could have someone coming and then assess in addition as boarded, you know, a new economic development director, fairly new economic development director. The question came up. Do we want to continue to keep economic development and the planning department so. This was already under way. So I mean, this motion, it just really kind of, you know, solidified some work that we were already doing its operational. So it technically does not have to go to council. I do want the public to understand and to know that we are looking at operational efficiencies because there have been questions about, well, are you spending less? You know, it's it's like, yes, we're spending less. Can we be more innovative? Yes, we can be more innovative. But we still have a job to do so always helps when we can bring in outside consultant, you know, to to to, you know, assist us with some of his day-to-day operational efficiencies in question mean, you know, working with the department heads thinking of questions that we MAY not think about because we're in the work every day. So like I said, we were already moving forward with this. And I know and I don't know cfo actually wants to chime in as well, that some of the work we had started with this. Well, with 0 base budgeting so they look at this, too. So kind of already moving in this general
direction. You know, it's important for us including the cfo to move forward. And, you know, city attorney, I don't know if you want to chime in as well. You know, when we come in and we look at the organizational structure, it's just always helpful to have an outside voice, an opinion whether or not we accept the recommendation or not it, you know, you know, that's another thing, don't know if you want to add anything to that because we've had discussions as well. Yeah, I would echo the same comments that the city manager made. I think it's always helpful to have a fresh. I look at this. Someone who MAY. >> And have a new suggestion or something we haven't thought of in terms of how to do things. In a different way. They MAY create some efficiencies. So I would I would certainly supported other reasons. The city manager said I and and would supported entirely. Yeah, but get its operational. Doesn't necessarily have to come before council. You know, if there's not a motion to put this forward, you know, I do want the governing body to know that. >> You know, we are working towards efficiency and we will be bringing someone in despite you know what this motion is. Thank you for framing it that way. Before turn to my colleague, MISS Rogers just so that I'm understanding correctly. By by going through this process. Today making clear is that the county or that the council rather certainly stands behind the ongoing efforts of the city's leadership team. >> To leave no stone unturned in terms of looking at the efficiencies are internal efficiencies and then from public perspective today, like
the fact that this along with other initiatives are going on, I'm glad you mentioned 0 based budgeting process as we talked about in goal setting a couple of months ago. Now, there's a lot going on behind the scenes in the city with respect to how we are adjusting our accounting processees and making it possible for both our internal staff and the public to have a clear sense of where the city funds are going. That's a major operation that's going to take. That's going to be taking many months and having this kind of consulting work going on the same time as we continue our ongoing restructuring effort. That's right in line with with certainly our executive teams go goals and I suspect everyone here on council with that MISS Route responders enjoyed a question or comment. >> Echoing what he said, but also wondering if its operational in you having the opportunity right now bring it to the public in the way that you did, do we really need to? Put it on the agenda? I would look forward to seeing what the consultant have the results. But since you can already do, it, maybe that is a step. We don't have to take, which is to be my. Thank you for that comment. MISTER Donald. I understand the importance of operational and that this is under city managers jurisdiction. I think it's critical at this time that the public's aware that we're looking for fission seas. >> In addition, there could be additional funds needed. And since we're up at a budget adoption, the goal was to be able to put some things on the agenda today. So it would be part of the current budget adoption. They're for giving her the funds needed to hire the consultants. MR. Preppy.
I'm just curious from a >> but just 6 standpoint, if this is operational, do we have issues with this being a council actions since that is clearly? Defined within the charter. And secondly, if it's not, does it slow down your process now that we have to bring him back the council in order to approve this? I'm I'm going jump in and is clearly operational. But what is an operational is the source of funding. And so it. >> If the city manager needs to have some additional funding approved by the on what's in the budget that you MAY adopt today. That that I did that would need to come back as a budget appropriation. You know, when you're looking at an entire city that it probably not just, you Penny pinching here and there that then can be, you know, put to something else. And so I'm gonna lead to the city manager in that piece of it. But certainly doing this kind of thing is operational. You could you all can sit voice. Your desire that and hope that she would do that. But that would be something she would do operationally. But the funds you all would need to approve it. She doesn't have them. Yeah, that's correct. Thanks, Theresa. But I would need to come back with the appropriation requests to because it's it would be outside of my authority. >> So whether or not you approved it now, what I don't want to do. Is continue to pull unnecessary money from the reserves of the general fund if I don't need it spend it was going to be right now. So if you give me spend it. But what I would like to do
and I think you to do is to work with the cfo and some members on our staff to actually get the exact cost of the r b and then this bring it back. Either way. I have to bring back the contract for council approval. >> So my biggest concern of though, is that this is a future agenda item to discuss authorizing the city manager. >> So we're going to vote today to have another item further down to discuss authorizing what it did to me. It seems like kind of handcuffing and I do get the guy point of daylighting this and having this discussion, which I think is all great. I just want to be as efficient as possible. So. Right now for all on board and nobody has an issue with it. Then I think you can continue to do that and come back with a cost later down the line first coming back in a couple weeks. Maybe months to have a discussion about authorizing you to do that. Very same thing. I mean, that that works for cfo of thing that works for you. >> And we did not talk about the city attorneys I think they also want to be involved and also want to make certain we talk about bringing a consultant and then looking at the departments, you where we've already gone through budget cuts right and, you know, we've got some around building to do, you know, around these cuts don't want. Employees to be fearful to talk to a consultant, thank and they MAY be talking themselves out of a job when that is not the case. What we're looking for is to see fish and sea and innovation as we work through this process as well. All right. If I'm if I'm listening correctly, it sounds like we might have a consensus moving towards
pushing this off to a few to the future. When we have a clear sense of what the cost might be and taking is taking item up against up again then and looking for eye contact here. >> spicy head nodding. MR. Donald, would you have objection to to waiting until we have a bit more clarity in the future? I just want to be clear on the direction that the city council is directing city manager to move forward with her rfc and bring about a consent item that approves a budget to do this. >> Is that what I'm hearing from everybody and I'd be happy to not put a motion on the floor. That's what the consensus. And just to be clear, I think any she has already moved forward is that is that the case? Some of it as move forward. We do have a part to because we need to. Talk about the second stage of the hour are contract as well. So we'll bring all that back either in JULY or AUGUST 4 to ask for an appropriation. Perfect. All right. So we are already moving forward and then we are all in agreement that if it if there's a substantial additional appropriation that we need to come back to this body to to approve. >> All right. And I see add nodding. Anything else to do on this item. >> And I think the city manager in I can discuss offline along with the cfo about what funds but also be needed to make sure we're doing the whole organization. I'm including the city attorney's Department and we obviously would want the city attorney's office to be done. By those who are used to doing that kind of unique, more unique operation. It's it's a public law office. And so we just want to make sure we have
the race consultant for that. But that's a much smaller piece of all of this. So I think all that can be folded in. To that to one item to come forward. Thank you for that clarification. All right. Before you're on a list to public comment, would any members of the public like to speak on this item? >> MISS Carmen. I do want to clarify it will not include police and fire. They do their own strategic plans in their own staffing studies. So I do want to be clear, it does not include public safety noted. Thank you for that clarification. MISS Carmen and the floor is yours. You >> Good afternoon City Council city turning cleared manager. I have objections to this, particularly talking about it being the tourney the public attorney office. I attempted to find out how many attorneys say where with the city fairly recently like 2 months ago and I was told they And I know about the attorney that comes here, told the meetings. Just recently I'm finding out there's already 10 attorneys and 10 attorneys starting ad somewhere around 152,000 and going up 288,000. That's a lot of money. And that hasn't been mentioned when it's being discussed about the budget. So I really object to anything more right now being done with attorneys. And they're also advertising right now for litigation attorney. So it just seems that there should
be somebody in their group can already do litigation. And they should already have sort of streamline the attorney office for people that could handle various areas or districts of the budget. So the excuse me, not the budget of what they actually would be doing it in court. So I have real objection. Surround this. It sounds kind of wishy-washy and the finance meeting that I attended recently was more they were 2 of them. And it's very recently within the last month or 6 weeks, the cfo was talking a group of maybe up to 20 that we're going to be overseeing and making suggestions about what could be done about the city and the budget. And so that was not being accepted real well, but this is the first I'm hearing about something that's supposed to be a consultant and everybody knows consultants are expensive and there's not even agreements bring it back later. We'll go ahead and talk about it. But it's already in progress. So I have serious objections about this. >> Thank you, Janice. Would any other members of the public to speak? Seeing none? We'll close public comment. >> And we will move on to item 12.1, our approval of minutes. >> Are there any amendments are added to the minutes? Seeing none. We'll adopt the minutes as they're submitted and move on to consent. MADAM City Clerk. >> Thank you, Mayor. Item 13.1 motion contract award for the resident. Contract award for the 2025 residential slurry. Item. 13.2. Motion Hearn Community Hub. Phase one design, build contract cost Amendment action and Budget
amendment. Item. 13.3 resolution request for authorization for some middle of a safe grant, safe streets and roads for all federal grant for the Sebastopol Road multi-modal Safety Corridor project and the neighborhood traffic calming demonstration project. Item 13.4 resolution approval to enter into agreement with Golden Gate Bridge Highway and Transportation District for police of 6 killing hybrid transit bus transit buses. This item has been continued to the JULY 8th 2025 regular meeting. Item 13.5 resolution approval. General Services Agreement for Courier Service, career delivery service with Transportation Systems, Inc dba, Rapid Express couriers systems. Item 13.6 resolution, appropriations limit fiscal year. 25 26. Item 13.7. Resolution approving a concession license agreement between the city of Santa Rosa and Pony Klein assisted skills for youth. Item. 13.8 resolution, professional services agreement with more. Cuff goldsman incorporated to provide landscape architecture, design and engineering services for Rincon Valley Community Park play area renovation. Item. 13.9 resolution, administrative costs recovery lean against the real property located at 5, 1, 5, 5th Street. Item, 13.10 resolution, administrative costs recovery leaning against the real property located at 1, 7, to 7 Burbank Avenue. Item. 13.11 has been continued to JULY 8th 2025 regular meeting. Item 13.12. Has been continued to the the regular council meeting. Item 13.13 resolution. Approval of one amendment number 3 to city
manager's employment agreement to reflect that the city manager waived any merit market equities. Salary adjustment in JUNE 2025. And cost of living increases from JULY 2025. Through JULY 2026. And then number one to city attorneys employment agreement to reflect that the city attorney waived cost of living increases from JULY 2025. Through JULY 2026. And 3 modification to the documents shedding 4th unit, 10 executive management wages, hours and other terms and conditions of employment to eliminate JULY 2025. Market equities, salary adjustments. Item 13.14. Adoptions. Second reading ordinance of the Council of the City of Santa Rosa rezoning. The property located at 3, 1, 5, 0 Denton Avenue. Assessors parcel number 0 for 3 dash. 1, 3, 3, Dash, 0, 1, 3, into the I g General industrial zoning district File number p r j 2, 4 Dash, 0, 1, 9, >> Thank you very much. Bring you back to council any questions on these items. MISTER Crappie. Thank you, MR. Mair yet just a question on 13.3. >> For the city manager in the city attorney within your best of ability since it is ongoing litigation. Can you discuss how this process plays applying directly to the federal government or through organizations like Ctca. >> there there are lawsuits right now pending in this council at the meeting gave direction to me, too. Have the city join San Francisco versus Trump which is a lawsuit that challenges and that federal government from cutting off
federal funding to jurisdictions that the federal government has determined are sanctuary jurisdictions. It appears that the definition that the government is using for that is any government any jurisdiction refuses to assist ice. The federal immigration officers with their enforcement efforts, which is different than and is is the current state of law and particularly here in the state of California where such agreeing to do that would violate state law right now we are seeing that there are some requirements that it appears that the city MAY not be able to sign and still be in compliance with state law and the city's own policies. My recommendation on this item is to go ahead. And if you want the city too request the grand to go ahead and authorize staff to do that. Staff will proceed with the process. It is our hope that we will obtain preliminary injunction like other jurisdictions have that allow the city to move forward without signing that it will do things that it can legally say will do. And so at this point, well, we are not 100% sure. We will be able to complete all of the documents that would enable the city to receive such a grant. Certainly we can move forward with that process. And at the same time, move forward with the litigation and can and request that type of Limon area injunction that would preclude the federal government requiring that requirement because it is
unlawful under the U.S. Constitution set on several other statutory basis. Thank you. Any other questions. I I do have I have one comment on item, 13.13 by don't think the necessity that. Either of you. We've the dance. >> If it is a procedural question is not a question. It is a comment. Yes, we should go ahead in Lee. And we can just walk down over here and we'll come right back. All right. It won't be long. I just want to say it's my understanding that that we do have outside counsel on this item. Should that be needed? Is that correct? H r Yes. Okay. So if that is needed fee is available by Zoom. Thank you. I don't think we'll be meeting council. Vice count adequate. Why? A truce or other legal counsel? It's a procedural question. I don't have to. Move 13.1, 3, 2, a separate voting says they're not voting members of of the agenda. Correct? >> Correct. The suggested recommendation language would be to adopt the consent calendar items. 13.1 through 13.3, 13.5 through 13.10 13.13 through 13.14, but because they are accusing of stepped away, they are not voting. You can make that all in one motion. >> Thank you for that clarification. And I had not intended to add this much drama to our consent calendar. I did want to highlight that every department of the city has made large sacrifices this year and what's been a difficult budget negotiation. And I'm proud that our
executive team, including our city attorney and our city manager show that they recognize this with sacrifices of their own this consent item will confirm that they are both giving up conference calls. I'm sorry, compensation to which they were entitled by contract, but they want to show that they also have skin in the game during this very difficult time for the city. I wanted to call out their their actions, but in doing so also also call out the fact that every department in the city, all of our 1300 employees in some way made sacrifices this year and maintain the spirit of collegiality amidst against again, what was a very difficult budget negotiation and so on behalf of council, I'm sure that all of my colleagues will share in this. We want to say thank you to our staff and thank you for it to our executive team for really setting example of how difficult process like this can go forward. And with we can ask that our city attorney and city manager return. Thank you both for taking extra steps. And I look to the vice mayor for a motion. I move items. 13.1 through 13.1, 4 with the exception. >> Of items. 13.4, 30.0, 1, 1, and 13.1, 2 those have been moved to a future regular meeting and wait for the reading of the text. Thank you. MISS Rogers. We have a motion and a second. MADAM City clerk. >> I'm sorry. Every week, every week there's one. Let's let's to public comment on this item before we go to our vote. Would any members of the
public like to speak, MR. Flores, are you making your way to the microphone? Purrfect? Alright, Edina, you've got the floor. >> Thank you, Mayor Sop and my apologies to my apologies to interrupt. But I'd like to reply to the comments that were made by city attorney in reference to this being sanctuary city with pending litigation. That is 100% false, as you all know and are well aware you many e-mails that John Doe who was raped a boys and girls club was trafficked through the club and he was deported and killed himself. So this is not a sanctuary city whatsoever. So I do appreciate the verge singling please share the sure the what is happening here. Story is very unfortunate. And I will ensure that that young man receives justice. Thank you. And GOD bless. >> Thank you. Would any other members of the public like to speak? This is this is public comment for consent. Janice, just for this. Any other member of the public wish to make public comment on the consent items. All right. Now we do now we can bring it back to the vote. We have a motion. We have a second. MADAM City clerk. >> Thank you. Councilmember Rogers. Councilmember Okrepkie I Councilmember Macdonald, I councilmember Fleming. Yes, Councilmember Ben Willows. Yes, Vice Mayor Alvarez far. They are stopped. Yes. Let the record show this consent calendar passes unanimously. >> Excellent. All right. Let the record show that it is precisely 5 o'clock. And we're on the dock at our public comment from non agenda matters. We run a tight ship here in Santa Rosa. So with that, if there are any members of the public who would like to make a make like to make comment on any items not
listed on the agenda. This is the time Janice, you have the floor. >> want make a mention about the open art studios. And they've always been really effective people visit the public. This is people come from other places to see the studios and the art is really incredible and beautiful the well. I was art studio yesterday. I has no men Sunday I was told that the catalog that the city puts out is being discontinued. And I think that's a terrible disservice. It seems there should be something that can be traded off the sites that because it goes to the banks, it goes to the corporation's. It gets mailed, you know, all kinds of things. Maybe you don't have to mail. And I I don't know. >> it's a really booklet gives you the maps how to get there and who's doing the words and what awards they've won and cetera. It's amazing. And they've done a really good job with it for I don't know how long, 20 years, at least maybe longer than that. But anyway, I want to comment on that and I hope you will think, again, about stopping circulating that catalog for the artists. The other thing is most people because I talk about know 2 things happened to me before I ran for city Council. One, had clear cutting across the street from me and I've spoken to at least know it doesn't people here at the city about this and it was clear cutting I was told by a high up is now retired. Suddenly and I knew she was going to be going. Anyway, I liked and I'm sorry
she had the lead. But she had told me that, yes, it was illegal. It was top illegal because I was reluctant to use the word. I said it's unlawful. She said no, it's illegal. Okay. So moving forward on that, my driveway has been damaged. The sidewalk has been damaged. My house, the brick been damaged. I mean, I've really had a mess. It's been a horrible situation. The people that they're doing this, they we even named on a contract. There was nothing I couldn't get a hold of anybody to city. There was no zoning enforcement of anything to do with this. So currently I've 24 seconds left, but I also fell on city property and I haven't done anything else about this. But I now have a violation and they're talking about charging me $5,000 a day for the damage sidewalk. So anyway, I'm having a hard time finding the person that would be the connection to get this straightened out. >> Thank you. All right. We're going move on to do you and then rammed a lock. And then Peter Alexander Alexander, rather so Edina Europe. >> Good Evening Council. I am here this evening because I'd like to share concerns regarding years. City personnel board over the weekends. I brought to your attention by one of your appointees as Lisa Maldonado represents decision-making regarding important decisions about terminations or wrongdoing of staff. And I don't believe she is efficient
and not rule in that. And previous interactions online. She told me she is a wish. And I tell you, these screenshots, she said she's a witch who snorted and injected every drug. She then went on to ridicule my faith. She told me I'm a Fe Christian. She went on to really cool my race. She decided it for me. And I went on to also ridicule the way I dress and the way I speak. And I've never met this woman. She did this in her official capacity as a board member for k bb k Bbf bilingual broadcasting as a biracial woman, I 0 0 representation in this community yet I fight for everybody. So her comments were outright disgusting. I was I just referenced in my previous comment about the John Doe who was deported. There are over 40 Latino children at that club who were molested by the athletic director and there that just last week, one of them, a new John Doe came forward. Maldonado told me not to speak about this. She told me that I'm exploiting the unnamed on those by sharing their story. That was in the press Democrat. And so. I I'm appalled quite frankly. And I would ask for you to remove her from position. She obviously has. I don't know, because I'm Asian and European. If she has an issue with that. But her comments were outright disgusting. If it was as a private citizen. She came up to me in the street. Is that what's That's fine. But she did in her official role and the ladies, okay. Bbf work very hard and not as a poor representation for them. It's a poor representation for the city. So I ask you to how some words with her. I did request records of her comments and text messages and emails about
me and I will be publishing those. But I would like that to be addressed before it gets to that point. Thank you. And GOD bless. >> Thank you, MR. Flores is Randall here. Brando, just step up to the podium. Mic is yours. >> Yes, I'm here to talk about my neighbors. >> a good living next to a through years to with can think about Somebody do something. Please note a drug house code enforcement knows they won't even come and that citing its not even nailed violations. They won't even call out. Nobody will do anything. I And I can't tolerate my job either my family sold the House 50 years and we pay taxes. The other day on Sunday, one of started their car and left to run the first 7 in the front of the House. Now wouldn't be a big deal except he's got lot of pride exhaust and drama league runs to the House. It just gave me a headache. All pretty good day. And a cop. The police officers skews said he couldn't even turn the car off when he was sitting there with the windows open. I have talked today and that she has tried. Diana skews me to help me through code enforcement. I finally got a reply. The case has been going on for 4 years for that. The police have been called over 200 times. I don't care what she does in her house. It's a step out Iran. Houses are one inch and my window is foot. From their yard where they're constantly blowing this morning. 06:30am, in the morning and they were
blowing last night at 8.30. When I finally told them, hey, it's past time for blowers. When will somebody do something? Sorry? >> Thank you, MR. Rock, I think some even the city's going to speak with you offline. >> Everybody MAY have. Will go on to Peter Alexander and then Jeff Alonso. Peter, you're out. >> Thank you. >> Was the mother great Al says listen to the black Wolves. How? Former head of the cia said, we will know that we have succeeded when everything the public believes. Is a lie. I see the problem is joined Santa Rosa in suing the PRESIDENT. Almost everybody's political opinions are based on deceptions. For those that know. Operation Mockingbird has been since the 50's completely. They still have is divided against each other. So my message as to those who are true patriots, those who've taken an oath to the Constitution, our veterans and those who are otherwise tired of what's going on. That wish to fulfill the promise of who we are and what time it is. They keep jumping around in the media. They say all Obama deported more people. Then then Trump ever Who cares? Let me tell you the truth. The truth is. That in 2007 under Obama, they stopped importing ice stop deporting. There's now are 20 million people and the fema concentration camps, not public knowledge. Nonetheless, true. This end of it the the visible group just like occupy is nothing more than a cia kind containment operation. So
you can get your young guys out and make a lot of noise and go home accomplish nothing. We are the most powerful people in the world. I take the Constitution very serious. If it were the law of the land, things will be a lot different. We've been manipulated and pointing fingers at one person or another forever. To take a line out a vendetta who more than anyone else is to blame. Let's make it clear. You need only look in the mirror. There aren't sides. There's truth in love versus deception. Angry. It is time for the 40 day strike. 4.40, nights, 40 days. Everything in the financial world and the West Coast. This will free law enforcement. It will free the free law enforcement little for your politicians that wish to do the right thing. It frees the U.S. Constitution first time ever. It frees us into the promised land. We are standing right here on the true near Jerusalem. The promise land. The truth is real. It most certainly is not across the sea. The power is the power of love of not allowing excepting on any level. This greed and saying corruption. I said you hear it thank you. Jeff Linsell. >> This is the new Jerusalem. The promised chosen to grow the Gardens of Genesis and Turtle Island. The transition from where we are now to this beautiful place of peace for cars, elbow grease up on our part example, Petaluma has a very nice Baumgarten. How bird that are being 40 search
gardens in Petaluma be far more appropriate. Immigration, common sense and self-determination veterans, I believe should have one football field size greenhouse to grow greens and another for your veggies, gourmet greens and fruits. Every school. My you agree should have mouse of gardens and greenhouses. Well, teaching in the guard and sound sideshows. Einstein said you cannot simultaneously prevent. Well, you prepare and financially support Ward. Therefore it follows that bankers mortgages and pga both owned by whites, child supports war, all wars and bankers, wars and all wars are based and deception. >> Protesting from my perspective is nonsensical. The end of that in the visible group, protests are as effective as occupy competition. What many in the big activist group in the San Francisco Bay Area run run by cia else to do anything and everything. But the only thing that shuts down the monster war being the corporate store labor in taxes. The money for his friend, along with enthusiastic gardening Ventura, honoring both other cells and Luther Burbank. We're dry Cactus. Pete. For true for truly I tell you, deceptions are great and the illusions greater still for white supremacy is an issue. Then be clear. Religious exception of all colors and stripes be 1000% wars and Cubs are serious problem than be clear. Users bankers minions. The barman be 1000% were. Thank you. >> Thank you. Are there any other members of the public
would like to speak? Go go right ahead. That floor is yours. My name is Victoria >> And I live at 801, Street. Just right across the park here. And I'm active with an organization that has been here for a long time. Helping. Homeless people. That whole notion action, exclamation point. It's unincorporated association. Of concern, said Now. We had a meeting on Monday and it was decided. That I would be representing homeless action, exclamation point. At these meetings. At least for public comment right now. I hope to be. Up on the issues that you are deciding so I can remind you not to forget. 4 p ball. What we have a lot of poverty. And then these other grow out of that like to drive. Crime. So I work with a lot of homeless people throughout the years. I was very impressed when we asked them what they needed. The said jobs. And wouldn't it be great to be able to hire some people without an address? Mean, without any other use, got To participate in cleanup or other things that they could do for their own people. I'm very concerned about what's going to happen. Given this new administration. And would like the city not to forget. The very, very poor. Thank you, Victoria. Are there any other members of the public would like to speak seeing none. Close public
comment and we will move on to our main event of the evening item. 16.1, our public hearing on the adoption of the city of Santa Rosa fiscal year. 25 2025 26. >> Operations and maintenance budget and Capital Improvement program. Budget. And we have our our entire finance team here. After many months of difficult work. Welcome again to all of you. Director Alton. Actually. Well, they're getting set just for the benefit of the of the public. We're going to have a bit of of a dance going on here at the dance because of the recusals that were mentioned earlier. So this Rodgers will join us later, MR. Donald will step out at one point and it will actually be much 2 different, 2 different public comments taken and 2 different votes taken, even though this is all one discussion. Again, reason for that is just to legally with a with the recusals that are in effect. So with director, Alton over to you. Thank you. Mayor sep members of the City Council I have just a few brief comments before we get started here. The proposed fiscal year. 25 26 budget. Before you. >> As a result of a team effort between the city manager's office finance and other city departments. As part of that process, general fund departments were required to develop significant ongoing reductions to try to balance the General Fund budget. While this was not an easy task, as you can imagine. I appreciate the analysis and creativity departments used to put forward significant long-term
reductions. The initial fiscal year. 25 26 General Fund operating budget had a deficit. Approximately 19 million dollars. Over the past several weeks and months. We've reduced that number by 11 million dollars. So while we still have work to do, this is an achievement that should be recognized. Additionally, I would be remiss if I didn't call out the work of our budget in financial reporting teams, the budget team works behind the scenes to vet all the information before you a tremendous amount of work goes into ensuring that the city Council has accurate data from which to make decisions. Our financial reporting team has been responsible for helping us prepare the General Fund reserves slides. That are so important in highlighting the urgent need for reducing the general fund deficit. These employees and the rest of the finance team operate largely unseen. But they are very important. And it's a privilege to work with them. On a personal note. This will be my last budget. I present to the council. I've discussed this with city manager Smith. And more importantly, with my family and I have decided to retire on OCTOBER. 3rd. This was an extremely difficult decision given our current funding the fiscal situation. However, what made this choice
possible for me was knowing that there is a solid leadership team in the finance Department. And in particular, the 2 folks sitting with me here. Scott Wagner and Veronica Connor, exceptionally talented and hardworking professionals. And they will continue to give the city manager and the City Council. Solid guidance to move forward. The move the city forward toward its goal of achieving and maintaining fiscal sustainability. And with that, unless you have any questions and hope you don't I will turn it over to Veronica to guide you through the rest of the presentation. Thank you, Alan. >> As was mentioned previously, we're going to begin our discussion looking specifically at the budget for the housing and Community Services Department. A lot of the information contained in today's presentation is a repeat of what we looked at in MAY. So I'm going to be highlighting what has changed specifically from our previous discussion. So on this slide, we are showing 2 line items of budget reductions and housing and community services. The first are reductions to our homeless services programs of about 1.4 million. This was not included in the numbers we showed to council back in MAY. This was discussed as an additional consideration. But we have now built into the budget so we can see the effects of those reductions. The second line item is a reduction of our housing and community services, professional services. This is our legal aid contracts and our families first contract. And this was reduced and the number shown in MAY. So altogether, housing and Community Services Department is contributing almost 1.6
million of budget reductions to help close that deficit gap. The proposed budget for homeless services is going to be about 4.1 million for fiscal year. 25 26. This is an increase from last year of 3.4 million. So the question MAY be asked of how is their budget increasing year to year if we are coming forward with nearly 1.6 million dollars of productions. And that is because in 24 25 we still had arpa funds funding a good portion of our homeless services. So if we're not bringing forward these reductions, we would be seeing a much larger increase. And that concludes the discussion of housing and community services, homeless services. I'll turn it back over to the mayor. Thank you very much. As I mentioned, are going to do in the public comment and the vote in different sections tonight. >> So we're going to handle this this portion of the budget right now. I'm gonna bring it back to my colleagues for questions on the homeless services portion of our of our budget. Looking down the row. Seeing non I'm going to open it up for public comment on this portion of the budget. So we're talking homeless services if we have it. Never members of the public who wish to speak, please move to the podium. You have the floor, Peter. >> Thank you, I am Peter Alexander and Mid 90's with 80 beds. I started the homeless mentor program. And the concept of that was we thought wonderful. It was such a good idea that many of the hotels in the area gave us half have for price often their rooms
for participants. And the concept dealt with him. The city helping those to be in places to live exchange for 20 hours a week of work and that work would be in the form of gardens. It would be in the form of cleaning. It would be in the form of building a planter boxes. So Santa Rosa could have more roses per square mile than any other place in the world. Would be Helping take care of the many seniors and those with disabilities that fall between the cracks, not having the insurance or the money to pay for the services. They require. I believe that this is an opportunity still. I believe that the people more than anything else. Would love to have a true purpose. Under these circumstances today that are seemingly more and more difficult all the way around. Also regarding the budget in this city and any other, I would advise and consent. You consider look Naomi Wolf and what she says about finances in the cities. Is this budget even for the homeless? Is it based on the needs? Of the homeless or is based on the needs of law enforcement emergency services and the citizens welfare, all which is important or is it based on? United Nations agenda? 21, the budget can be fantastically added to because there's not anybody I know that would like to see the homeless program remedy. And quite frankly, in the hometown Luther Burbank. Well, it actually Petaluma the growing of hundreds 100's of gardens giving people something to do. That's healthy, therapeutic, positive, supporting the rest of the community would be a wonderful thing to finance and
let them whatever they can earn through with something that the city can find. So and those could be added on by the public because the question I would ask. To all those that were protesting on Saturday, many of which were homeless. Also realize that the very thing that they protest against. Is consistently funded by them. Paying the child. You use your dynasty by paying pg e which is owned by Rothschild and your rents and mortgages which ends up in their pockets as well. Let us now use these monies to fund thousands of green houses and gardens. Let's just open up the promise land as we are here to do. I am Peter and I'm committing. And so with the love of GOD. >> Thank you, Jenny, with homes. It's my name is Jalen Homes with Catholic Charities. >> We've been long partners with the city of Santa Rosa working to address homelessness. I've been working in this agency and with the city of Santa Rosa for over 16 years and over these years, I've seen a lot of changes in this field given his history. I want to share with you that in this current moment, this is the most progress I've ever seen and the area of reducing homelessness. City of Santa Rosa. We are looking at double-digit decreases and visibly while that is still there, it feels very different from where we were 5 years ago. 5 years ago, we had massive encampments and high tensions with our community, particularly in downtown things had improved immensely and that is directly tied to the hard work of the city and the investments that have been made. I want to take a moment to thank the staff of Hcs in the city manager who have been extraordinary partners in this
endeavor. With that being said, I certainly understand the fiscal situation that the city is an I am not here to task for funding reductions to be changed. We are in this with the city to make sure there is a long and healthy future. But while we are in this moment of having to redo services, I also want to know we have come so far and don't want to regress backwards in the hard work we've done to reduce homelessness. Reductions in funding for programs in Jose's homelessness and housing does not necessarily mean those expenses go away because the people in need are still there. Usually expenses increase in or transfer to other areas like our schools, public safety, emergency services and public works. Because of that, even with the significant reduction, our team has worked hard to ensure we can keep most of the services at the same level with additional funding strategies with the exception of the drop-in center and host, we've been able to do that. However, much of that hinges on federal policy and what the federal government does with Medicaid after next year. Let me assure you we are not standing idly by unrest in all of our hope on our federal government. So we are continuing to explore economies of scale and other strategies. I do ask for 2 considerations. First with the reduction of outreach workers and a 58% reduction in hours of the drop-in center, which you will include closing on the weekends. There will be impacts with more visible homelessness, particularly in downtown and other areas like the Santa Rosa Plaza. My hope is to partner with the city on proactively addressing those concerns. We continue to maintain relationship building. We work h# # # o# over the last 5 years. Second, given how significant these reductions were. If there are
more knowing that there is more to come, we will not be able to maintain levels of services like we've absorbed in this reduction. Homelessness will unfortunately become more visible and will affect economic development and strain other community resources. I again want to reiterate, we want to do our part to help the city. I mean, this professionally cafeterias partnership to address homelessness as well as personally and volunteer efforts to be able to help the city find new funding streams through other areas. I think you will and will continue to balance these areas and do what I can to help the health of the city and the community. >> Thank you, Jenny London. Thank you. Charities. Are there any other members of the public they would like to speak on this section of the budget. Homeless services. Seeing none going to bring it back to council for final comments in a motion. Any final comments? I have one in 4. There's no one else. I wanted to before we go to the to MR. Crept in and the motion I just wanted to underline again for staff, certainly for Catholic Charities and for the public. How significant the conversations are. They're happening behind the scenes right now with all the cities in Sonoma County and with think the county itself, obviously we have new leadership at Sonoma County, the Department of Health Services. There are new ways of thinking there in terms of how the county can partner with the city cities. There is no desire at this at the city level to be downgrading our services because our residents needed. Our unhoused population needs it and the same can be said for the unhoused within every other city in the county. We do need to do things differently. And that's where the bulk of the
conversation is taking place right now is working. City's working cleverly collaboratively together and with the county to say, hey, we've got this pot of money his genuine mentioned, there's some uncertainty around that because again of both the federal state level, nevertheless, there is a pot of money there. We've all got the same goal. How can we do what we need to do more efficiently and the conversations to date of unproductive. So please do not take the cuts that we're suggesting here or the constant Rohnert suggesting there are cuts in other cities are suggesting as being indication that cities are giving up or throwing their hands in the air. Quite the country behind the scenes. This is a constant this is a constant topic of discussion and we are going to find a way to continue to good work for the people in our communities who need it. And as again, a genuine underlined for the economic health of our of our of our community, without all turned over to MR. Copy. Thank you, MR. Mayor. I will waive reading of the text move to waive reading of the tax and adopt a resolution titled Resolution of the Council of the City of Santa Rosa Proving the homeless services program budget within the fiscal year 2025. 26 operations and maintenance budget. All right. We have a motion a second by MISS MacDonald. So we're going to vote on this section of the budget whenever our city clerk is ready. >> Thank you. Mayor Councilmember Rogers is recused. Crappie. I Councilmember Macdonald, I councilmember Fleming, yes, Councilmember Ben Willows. Yes, Vice Mayor Alvarez. I their step. Yes. Let the record show this resolution passes with 6 affirmative votes. >> Thank you. And we will invite Councilmember Rodgers back in. And we will be
patient as I suspect people noticed with culture of all on the on the day is this afternoon. Rodgers is recovering from from a procedure. This is a very regal procession. This is how every Councilmember Jean enter. The following. That's true. We should be carried. That's that's how we should be in the future. Lindsey, thank you very much. It's Rodgers. Thank you for your patience. With that, we will we will turn our attention to the to the next portion of our budget discussion. MR. Altman. Veronica, either either one had turn back over to you. Thank you, Mayor. >> And the next section of the presentation is going to focus on our proposed budget and primarily what has changed since we last met in MAY. There are a number of budget reductions that we went over in great detail. Some were already feathered into our budget numbers somewhere. Merrily proposals at this point. We're at that point. So today in the next 2 slides, I'm going to take through what has changed since we gave a presentation at our study session. The 2 largest changes or that we have removed the furlough estimate for staff and also removed the estimate to black out truck company for our fire department. These 2 items will the front the fire station blackout. It was very clear from counsel. This was not something to be supported her to move forward. So that estimate was backed out of our budget and the for a low estimate. It was determined was not something that could be moving soon as JULY 1st. That's something that if there is a future and that it will come back as a separate counsel item. So removing those 2 items, my budget is actually increasing our deficits, their savings that we're calculating back in MAY. And the remainder of these
items are smaller and they were things that were discussed that were not actually built into the numbers. For example, we have now added into our final proposed budget reducing to firefighters as well as the deputy fire chief and some services and supplies. My fire department budget. We are reducing our city attorney salaries by $12,000. This was not discussed in MAY, but this is something that was brought up between the MAY meeting and today of a way to realize some budget savings for the city attorney to forgo a cola. Recreation has increased their revenue estimates by $110,000 because they'll be able to raise some fees in the next fiscal year's to close the budget gap. And they are also reducing several staff members and temp staffing hours in order to close costs. And human resources. We have removed 2 positions that dei officer as well as a human resources technician. The police department back in MAY. We discussed removing a lieutenant from their budget, but there was some concerns about that. So instead the police department has come forward with police officer to remove instead as well as some services and supplies costs to help make up the difference. And our water department, they were able to determine that a small portion of our water Department of Storm water that is funded by the general fund and some of these operations could now be funded by our Enterprise Fund. So $17,000 of budget savings was realized from there. And finally, back in MAY, we also discussed our execs staff are going their equity compensation in the next fiscal year. So the items
on the last 2 slides total, 2.9 million. So this is an increase in our deficit. We came forward with a smaller deficit in MAY, but largely due to, as I mentioned, these first 2 items that are high dollar amounts that were large savings. We're calculating. We remove those from our budget. Estimates are actually coming forward with a larger deficit today than we did a month ago. So this table shows. The summary of all of the reductions in all departments in the general Fund. On the left-hand side, we list our departments and their 25. 26 proposed operational General Fund budget. So, for example, our water Department, 3 lines from the bottom. You'll see a budget of 745,000. That's obviously a very large department. But their general fund portion is very small. So this is just general fund operational budgets. When we started this whole process months ago in the fall, we asked departments to come up with about a 7 or 8% operational reduction. So our 8% target is the amount that we were hoping departments could get to by the end of this process. Council took action on our JANUARY 2025. Reductions back in JANUARY when council voted to remove nearly 4 million dollars worth of appropriations and our operational budget. And then the green column on the fire, right? This is what is built into our budget today. So these are the further reductions that are coming out of our operations today. So the department's with an asterisk and that are highlighted in green on the fire, right? These are the departments that we're able to
meet that 8%. When you take the JANUARY numbers and added together with that fire right column of what's coming forward today. So altogether from what was moved forward in JANUARY and what we are moving forward with today. That's totaling 15 million, $764,000 worth of budget reductions that we hire taking action on in the general fund. That's just shy of 7% of our general fund operational budget. So continuing to look at changes from the study. Sessions stepping back from the general fund. There's been some changes in our other funds since we last met. How specifically and Santa Rosa water. They're moving forward with a small reorganization to eliminate 7 vacant positions and add 11 new positions and their sub regional and local wastewater funds. This will cost to the enterprise funds about 770,000, but it is included in their new water rate model that has come forward. And similarly, our housing authority has that separate agency has received updated allocations from the Department of Housing and Urban Development. So their expenditures and revenues have both increased by about $125,000 based on those new estimates. And one additional change in the general fund. This has nothing to do with budget reductions but our planning and economic development department is opting to eliminate of Aiken halftime position and they're graffiti abatement program, eliminating this vacant position. We will take that funding and extend an existing technician and graffiti abatement for a longer term.
That position is currently limited terms. So we're just swapping the funding to extend one that is currently sold. So that less action concludes all the changes that we've seen since MAY. And in the next section, I'm going to take you through it. Many tables of all of our budget summaries. We've seen these before. I'm not going to go through the line by line or explain major variances as I did back in MAY. But I will be highlighting the changes of where we see the effects of what's happened between MAY and now and with the changes we are seeing take place. So this slide shows our city revenues fund. This is all funds. So not just general fund but citywide. We are estimating to bring in about 517 million dollars worth of revenue next year. The only changes that have occurred in the last month is our general fund revenue. Estimates have gone up by $100,000. Thanks to recreation, being able to increase their fees with very short notice. And also our housing authority. As I mentioned, they have those new estimates from hud. So still looking citywide, all funds, all entities. Our expenditure side. We are anticipating 553.8 million dollars of budgeted expenditures in the next fiscal year. Changes from study session include our general fund expenditures and that top line item of 216 million, these of increased by 3 million dollars since we last met. And again, as we discussed a few slides back. That's primarily due to taking out that for a low estimate and the fire department truck company blackout. We did add in other reductions, but it wasn't enough to quite offset everything. And similarly housing authority's expenditures have also updated estimates. This pie chart is just a visual of the slide. We just looked citywide expenditures by fund which shows that our general fund is
the largest fund we have here at the city at 39% of all operations. And we are going to go into the general fund overview in the next section. So today we are bringing forward a proposed budget and the general fund that has a deficit of 8.1 million dollars. This is an increase from what was proposed back in MAY. So expected. Shares have increased since we last met as summarized on the previous slide, but are transfer outline has also decreased by 1.4 million dollars. That is where we see the savings and the homeless services reductions. It is a bit confusing but homeless services is funded by a transfer from the general fund to the Homeless Services Fund. We don't see that in our expenditure line item. So by reducing those programs, this we're realizing the savings and the transfers outline. Still, despite all the efforts of staff and council, we are still seeing revenue and transfers in not able to cover our expenditures and transfers out that we've budgeted in the next year. So still looking at the general fund, these are major revenues by category. 215.1 million total is what we anticipate bringing in next year. We discussed in MAY the sales tax issue with our sales tax leveling off. And this year we are decreasing our budget estimate that has not changed since MAY. The only change we see is in the recreation line item of an increase of $110,000. And a visual of our previous slide again shows that sales tax is that largest funding source of all of our general fund operations. So when we are
seeing uncertainty with our sales tax that compounded effects throughout the operational budget. And moving on to the expenditure side of general fund expend categories. Again, we went through this in detail in MAY. So I won't be going through it line by line. But the main takeaway here is that despite all of the major cuts that we have seen back in JANUARY and in this proposed budget, our general fund expenditures are really only be reduced by 1.7%. And the reason we see a reduction that is not very high is because it is very difficult to compensate for the increases in staffing costs and benefits. And rising contracts. Not to mention our Calpers unfunded liability that no matter how many staff we reduced that amount stays the same. So it is a bit of uphill battle here trying to reduce the general fund operations that as much as we try to reduce and cut, we still see rising costs to offset any progress. That's Maine. Again, another visual, our expenditures by categories, general fund is largely people that salaries and benefits which makes it necessary in an environment of budget reductions to be looking at cutting positions. And still looking at general fund expenditures. This is just divided up differently instead of by category. This is by department. And the dollar change in percentage change columns. We see that nearly all departments are seeing a reduction year-over-year. And a visual of our previous slide. Showing police and fire as the 2 largest departments and public safety being a significant part of our general fund operational budget. The context here being that in an environment of budget reductions, public safety, it's it's necessary to touch a public safety departments. If we want to see any kind of
savings year-over-year. As difficult a decision as it is. And on the topic of public safety, we have here calculations for our public safety and prevention tax base line calculation. This is our maintenance of effort calculation that is required. To show that we are not supplanting anything from the general fund with our outside funding sources. So there was some concern this year that as we are reducing departments, we don't want police fire violence prevention to fall below baseline. But because we are reducing the general fund as a whole, that bottom line shows that police still nearly 5.5 billion dollars over baseline fire. 7.5 million and violence prevention about $40,000. So all of our departments are still within compliance. Our 5 year forecast now has the current budget built in. So the Redbox shows are 8.1 million dollar deficit. And we do see from fiscal year. 24 25 to 25. 26 that deficit getting smaller from all the efforts of council and staff. However, it does continue to grow in the out years. Projecting out our general fund reserves in the first column labeled fiscal year 2025. We've now built in this estimate of a deficit of 8.1 million. And we can see the effects in the out years. Points to note on this slide is that by fiscal year 26, 27, that is when our reserves fall under the council mandated Reserve policy. By fiscal year. 27. 28 reserves will be gone entirely. That assumes that there is no further action taken after today in
terms of budget reductions. Which is not the intended plan. The writing's on the wall pretty clear that staff will be back again, if not next fiscal year, mid-year to come forward with more reductions to correct the issues that we see here. The next section goes into a staffing summary. Typically a budget adoption. We've talked about staffing at length. So we just show a very high-level summary. However, today we're going to show you all the details again, the abundance of caution. There's a lot happening with staffing this year with budget reductions. We just want to be sure that we cover everything. These next 2 slides are a summary. These include all funds, not just the general fund, so all funds. We will see that most departments are seeing a reduction as we are making an effort to reduce our budget. However, fire the fire department is an anomaly through the implementation of Measure h the new tax measure and bringing on staff funded by that tax measure. They are seeing a net increase. Similarly with our water department. They are adding staff to do that re organization that is funded by their rate model through their enterprise funds. So citywide not just within the general fund a city wide within all funds. We are proposing a reduction of 31 Ft ease in fiscal year. 25 26. Moving into the details. These next slides for the tables are all in blue. This is just the general fund. Presented most of these I'm not going to read through them line by line, but I am going to highlight what has been added since we last
met. An hr and risk. We've added in that we will be reducing that department via dei, Indio officer and human resources Tech. Those were discussed in MAY, but they were not actually put on our staffing changes slides at that time. And in the fire department, we took out that estimate that called for blocking out a fire station and the staff associated with that in its place, we have out of the removal of 2 vacant firefighters and a deputy fire chief. Rec and parks. It was discussed in MAY, but not officially on the list yet on facility's attendant and 2 recreation specialists. Pws had no changes since MAY. And our staffing staffing estimate here. And the police department. We are no longer proposing the elimination of lieutenant, but instead an officer. And there has been no changes and the staffing detail for either ped or Siro. So the general fund position changes total. 55 Fte is that we are proposing to remove from our operational budget. A breakdown of that number is that 17 of those are sworn and 38 are non-sworn. And vacancies are a moving target. But I tried to get a good updated amount from hr. Thank you to hr from last week and they estimate that at this time of those 55 positions, 16.8 of them are filled. 38.2 are vacant. However, of those 16.8 that are filled, one will be eliminated upon attrition. 0.8, we anticipate will be vacant by the time action is taken to eliminate the position. 3 of those positions will remain in their current classification. And although
the positions are eliminated, there's a vacancy elsewhere in the organization that they can be moved to different program. Our department. And 5 people while their positions are eliminated, they will be bumped down to a position previously held here at the city. They have enough seniority that they will not be put out of a job down to a previously held position. 8 people will be laid off. However, one, we are making a concession to keep through DECEMBER in order for the department to allow time for planning and transitions and training, etc. The next 2 slides in green shows staffing changes that are not in our general fund. These are in all other funds as I mentioned, fire has their measure h that we are implementing this next fiscal year. They've received tax revenue in order to fund. A new new fire after new fire programs. And so these 20 ft East will be added with our fiscal year. 25 26 budget. And similarly water. He's doing very org where they are adding several positions and any positions we see eliminated in the water department are vacant. So in all funds other than the general fund, we are adding 24 positions. So between the 24 additions outside of the general fund and the 55 reductions in the general fund, that's that net total of 31 position reduction, citywide. So that concludes the presentation of our budget adoption. Our recommendation is that the city manager and the fire Finance Department. Recommend the council approved what we are now down to 5 resolutions. One has already been voted on to adopt the operations and maintenance budget and capital improvement program. We also
have an additional resolution to amend the public safety and prevention tax implementation plan for 25. 26. Happy to answer any questions. Thank you again, so much for that presentation. And we can't we can't state enough. >> How much work has gone into this over the past several not only from the county and finance team, but but from all the city departments as they waited on this plan, I'm gonna bring it back to council here for questions on this latter half of the of the budget. Looking to my colleagues for any questions. Anything. Please, MR. Donald. >> Thank you. Mayor have a few questions for clarification on slide 9. I wanted to just double check. How much does a water enterprise fund take out a general fund? I I thought that it said about $750,000. Is that correct? Yes, I believe our storm water program is funded through the general fund. It is somewhere between. >> 7th 745,000 was their proposed budget of the General Fund fund portion of it. And 25 26. That is not the exact amount anymore. Once we factor in budget reductions, but it's within the ballpark. >> Can you tell me if it's mandated that we pull that from general fund or because it's a enterprise fund, should that be coming from Water Department's directly? >> Good Mayor staff members of Council Scott Wagner, deputy director of finance. Out of clarifying point. Your question, Councilmember Donald, thank you for the question. In that the Santa Rosa Water Department oversees the storm. Water function, but it's important to differentiate when we think of water. What I think of Israeli
wastewater in water function of delivery. This is really separate from that. And storm water a long, long time ago was a general fund operation fully and a long time ago, we went through a process of of Presa placing charges which the council approves each year to cover the storm. Water activities of the city. But there was still a remainder of those activities that remained really what the water department does is they oversee that general fund portion. So when we see Santa Rosa water on this slide. My mind always goes to enterprise fund. But that is not the case here. It is truly a general fund function. Is that hope it is very helpful. Thank you for clarification on that. >> Under the special reserves inside 13 14. I just want to quickly go over. It says Special Reserve spend and there was a large increase and then a large out go. Can you just tell me briefly what those Special Reserve funds are contra? My believe their taxes, but I just I make sure that it's clear to the public. Thank you for that question. The big jump there, Frank can find it. >> It's the revenues by phone >> special revenue funds. Sorry, I said Reserves. I apologize. Special revenue funds goes from 34 million to 44 Million. A 30% jump. And then on the following slide expenditures also almost equal the same. But I just want to make sure we're clear where it's coming from. >> Great question. It's the measure h it's implementing measure h the county wide fire measures. So that is a special revenue fund. As we've talked
about. We've made sure to separate that those revenues and those expenditures away from our general fund in accordance with the measure. >> In the future to see you could even put like a cliff note or something of what those funds are for. I think that would be helpful just because it shows an increase when we're showing everything else is a decrease. And where that's coming from from the public measures that they passed for safety. As far as the vacant positions. And I'm not sure if this is the time my understanding or maybe I'm just going to say it doesn't matter if it's time. My understanding was a direction from council specifically under public safety for police officers that we were retaining one of the positions. And I see an additional position put here. And as I've been pretty clear, I'm not favor of any cuts to public safety, even through attrition. I'm not as happy about them, but there's a 9th position that's being recommended tonight. So is that something that was added after what I understood his council direction to retain that increase the deficit. And when was that decision made? >> through the mayor COUNCILWOMAN MacDonald. So the question on the table would have to deal with the lieutenant so myself and the chief behind the scenes to see if they could come up with additional exchanges instead of the lieutenant. So they did. They they didn't want the lieutenant. So the chief and I went back and what he proposed with some I think there was some vehicles, some other supplies and another officer. I did ask the chief and said, can you find any other savings
within your table of organization and the supplies, any travel. So what he could come up with was a 9th officer. So that's why that is being proposed at this time. Well, I think appreciate explanation from new city manager. I guess my >> concern or my confusion is my understanding was that we were not making an additional cut that we were going to be increasing the deficit that percentage and that we would not be going back to that department for additional cuts. So lieu of that, and I don't think it's the appropriate time to we go through things. I will be making a motion tonight to not have that reduction of the 9th officer. Would change the budget at the but we'll go forward with discussions for now. But I just wanted on the table that that's coming from me. >> Looking to colleagues for any additional questions. I've got a few my own. Minor pretty big picture and it would be a budget conversation if I didn't try to do some some back of the envelope math. So think there's a few important points to underline for that for the public. And one of those points is the scale of cuts that the city has made last year. With the proposed cuts this year, assuming that they go through in something like their current form and with the scale of cuts that we are likely to have to discuss next year. I that slide. That lays out the 17.1 million dollar deficit that we're still going to be facing next year, even if we make the proposed cuts this year is an important number. So I did a little addition here. And if I remember correctly, we had 4 million in cuts last year and straight contests, not including the one-time funds that we clawed back in order
to cover deficit. We're talking about 11.8 million this year. Potentially talking about 17.1 million in cuts next year. That's this needs to be discussed. Needs to be voted, but it's on the table. Hypothetically, if you add those numbers together over the course of 3 years were talking about making a total of 32.9 million dollars in cuts, which based on my maf is roughly a 15% cut to our general fund budget. I'm I'm looking for nodding heads from accounting and finance because sometimes they make mistakes with my my my quick math. But in mind, the ballpark there, we'll put a lot category. But yeah, I think Yes. And and i will add, mayor, if if you will, please allow me. It's that that's a critical measurement point because I think >> where I've seen that math go wrong. Sometimes is taking the city's total budget persons, specifically the general fund. And that's where our focus is. That's where our structural deficit is. So thank you for that math. >> All right. Good. I'm glad I'm in the because I think it's good. I know we have that. We have our chamber of commerce in in the house. I'm sure the press Democrat is watching with members general public watching. And it's gonna port important, emphasize that this figure going forward. City is making making the changes that we need to make. >> But again, so many other organizations locally are making right now are of made in the recent past. But the city is doing its work to cut to cut our expenditures. And assuming that we do our job this year and assuming that we
do our job next year, then in in combination with what we've done in in the year previous, we are making a 15% cut to our general fund budget, which is sizable for any organization. It is never pleasant with. All of us would prefer to be adding here, especially public safety. But that's not that's just not the fiscal context in which we're living right now. My second question is just a reiteration of a of a point to be made previously because it's a point that comes up a lot in public discussion. So where we are shrinking down 1276 staff direct that. Remember that correctly? 472, what's what's what's 976.1 5. There we go. Even more and more specific. At our peak at the city's peak, which I think was in 2008. What was the staffing number? I've got a round, a rough, rough number of I had in mind the ballpark there as well and don't need an exact number. It's about 13, 2013. So we're talking about being 5% down in terms of staff count from 2008 from 17 years ago at the same time as we're cutting our budget again, proposed proposed cuts through next year of 15%. While at the same time our city population has grown 15%. Plus since 2008. So we have more people that we need to serve more services that we're providing flat night flatlining revenues and we've got fewer staff and which didn't wish to do this with. That's going to be a guy. Picture for the city to understand. And I know that many of us on the day as have
already been active in the in our in the community. Educating our our fellow residents about the reality of the situation here. And that's going to important. That important thing for us to continue to do and looking and looking at Ananda. I'm putting her on the spot because we're gonna need the chamber or any of the business community. Help us with that with this as well. And so many of our community groups of already lead an and to our press. Democrat reporters watching online. Thank you all ready for that for the education that you've been doing. We're certainly could be talking more in the future as well. But those numbers, the numbers that we just walked through, I think are particularly important. One bit of good news from again, the POWs actions that we're taking here today comes from that the charge, the very nicely designed chart that goes through the minimum reserve them in the reserves that we have over the next few years. If I read that chart correctly, it looks like that if we if we go through with the proposed actions today, then we've achieved the goal that we discussed during our budget study session of giving ourselves an extra year an extra year to put ourselves on a stable financial footing. Prior to this prior to these cuts, talking about having only 2 years at most reserves that we were able to utilize. Now, it looks like or up to a 3rd year, at least giving us an extra year to to to put ourselves on on more stable footing, do by my reading that correctly. I would agree with your characterization. Thank you. Yes. All right. Well, that's again. That's that's a win for the city right now during this difficult time. And it's a bill. A big part of
the conversation are having here today. A big part of the goal. Final question for me. What are the next steps in terms of evaluating the actuals in terms of revenues and expenditures, expenditures that are coming in against us against our proposed budget. What are the next steps in terms of when this when we were we doing future budget study, sessions, future evaluations at the council level. Obviously we are not going to wait 12 months to review things. Again, this is going to that we are regular drumbeat of discussions in the months to come either from the city manager or from from cfo Alton. What's the what's the trajectories? You see it over the next next 6 to 12 months? Well, I can give you the excuse me. Thank you, mayor, for that question. I knew the the rough timeline of where we are from a financial statement standpoint. So we'll start. >> Closing are books and through JULY and AUGUST into SEPTEMBER. >> That'll that will were will complete our financial statements. >> Get those to the auditors and be able to be back in OCTOBER. So we're looking at OCTOBER 4, a study session where we go over the those year in numbers the meantime, are. Our budget process has has moved from 6 months to sorry, 12 months, essentially as we go through different things that the city manager is talk about in terms of of how we structure our budget in and our organization, an end, how all that gets fit into the
the 26 27 budget that you'll see next so short, you have will go through the process of closing. The book starts. And in JULY the results of that will be in OCTOBER in study session here, depending on those results. And we we have an idea of what they MAY look like. But it's always good to to rely on the numbers that come back from the auditors as we as we finish that process up. We we MAY need to come back with a mid-year item to either make reductions, then or make reductions through a 26 27 budget. >> Yeah, thank you for that, Allan. And in addition to that, so we will have the Budget Advisory Committee. We are actually working on the applications now. I will be working with Sierra and hr will have a working group they can for the labor. Labor either participate on the citywide, the external working group are we can have an internal working group. I know Labor's already stretched working class Compean. Some other things, but we'll have several internal working groups and then I'll have a separate working group just for the directors themselves. But when we go back as well, the directors will begin again, sharpening their pencils looking for efficiencies. And as we work with the consultant to find some innovative ideas on how we're structured. And Steph, so we will probably start getting start working tomorrow. Thank you for that. Could you highlight again the
budget advisory group and how important that is with respect to bringing in community voices. >> Yeah. Thank you for You know, the purpose of the budget advisory group is to be transparent. One of the things that we've heard is that there's not enough transparency, whether it's the budget process, whether it's in the process and we want to make certain that the community has some input community using a lot more ideas than we do. You know, businesses and other entities operate a little more different things. Government does. So we want to give them opportunity to bring some solutions and suggest suggestions to the table as well. And we also want to open up our books for the community. A lot of times, you know, often hear COUNCILWOMAN MacDonald's say, hey, it's not driven down to the line item right? And we see all of that behind the scenes. So we think that that's important for the public to understand and to see what we see. And we also want to continue to open up the books and be able to more detailed for our union partners. You know, we've heard them loud and clear and we do want them to be a part of the solution as well. Thank you for that. All right. No more questions for me. Let's open it up to public comment. On this section of the of the budget discussion. And actually we have a few. We have a few names already when we start with Matt Finn again and then Patty Stephens not a sweet. Mayor councilmembers. Matt Finn again from Teamsters, local, 8, 5, 6, >> I help represent about 600
of those 1300 or so employees. I want to go over a couple of things and I'll probably run out of time here. But these aren't just fte Placeholders we're talking about. These are the members of the Union. These are hard-working people who work for you with the city and work for the community. So I want to actually tell you who they are just by name and where they work. So Sonia who's a deputy emergency preparedness coordinator. She's going to lose her job. If you pass the budget as it's proposed. Sean, Cara is the 0 waste, coordinator. They will lose their job if you pass the budget as proposed. Jen Santos, deputy director of the parks. She will also lose her job. If you pass the budget as proposed. Lu Kirk, the assistant building official will lose his job if you pass the budget. And now there's all those are just the people who are going to lose their jobs outright with the way the budgets proposed. There's a whole collection of people who are going to be demoted because their jobs are either eliminated or someone above them job was eliminated. So therefore, they have to be bumped back or go to a position that they previously held. And so Jennifer do with will be demoted. Tara, tell Monte will be demoted. Carrie Wilson will be demoted. Melissa Hughes will be demoted. Doug Williams will be demoted. And Catherine again where will because also demoted. So I'm running out of time, but I got to tell you
guys. As were meeting over these budget cuts and laying off people, you are hiring people in the same departments that you're laying people off. So I would propose to you. That doesn't make sense. And I would say through my experience representing people all over Northern California, that's not normal, right? That MAY be part of the 0 based budgeting idea or theory. But the very first thing you need to do is stop hiring people before you start disrupting people's lives and eliminating their jobs. Joe, what I want to ask you to do pass a budget doesn't include Elaine off people who are going to lose their job for my union. That's news. First 4 people. The other people I'm sure would rather not be demoted. That be great, too. And there's a couple other people that changing departments and whatnot. I think it's very easy for you to take those 4 people and not eliminate their jobs. And I would ask you guys to do that today. Also want to mention we don't even know exactly how many vacancies and people are being hired at the current moment. And I would ask whatever you do when you're eliminating any of these people's jobs that you give them at least 90 days to find a new job and not implemented in the next 60 days. Thank you, Matt. >> We're going to Patty Ananda and then Kim Hawkins. >> Good afternoon. Mayor stabbed Vice Mayor Alvarez Council members and city staff. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today and for your continued service and leadership during these challenging budget
discussions. My name is Patricia Steffensen. I service the PRESIDENT Of the Santa Rosa Police Management Association. I'm here to respectfully urge the council to reconsider the proposed elimination at the 9th police officer position. A position that is currently unfilled solely due to last year's hiring freeze. This is not a redundant or unnecessary position. It is a critical resource that if caught we'll have a real and immediate impacts on public safety in our community. If we are not allowed to fill this role, the body will have to come from somewhere and the consequences will be felt citywide. It could mean pulling from our special enforcement team which is already taken over. Taken 42 illegal firearms off the streets just since JANUARY, more than they did. All of last year. Each one of those firearms. Is a potential shooting or homicide prevented. It could mean further reducing our downtown enforcement presence, leaving our core and surrounding neighborhoods more vulnerable to safety concerns and blight, particularly related to the unhoused population. It could mean fewer dui investigators in motor officers in our traffic division increasing the risk of deadly collisions on our street. Or it could mean leaving additional patrol beads. Unfilled vacant, leading to longer response times and reduced services for our residents. Citywide. These are not abstract tradeoffs. They're real impacts on real people. We understand the difficult fiscal decisions he face. But we asked you,
prioritize public safety and allow us to keep this vital, very important position. Thank you again for your time and consideration. Thank you. Not to. >> Mayor stabbed Vice Mayor Alvarez Council members and city staff. My name is a nod to sweeten the ceo of the Santa Rosa Metro Chamber of Commerce. I predominantly want to acknowledge the countless hours that city staff and council have devoted to this process weighing difficult tradeoffs, recognizing that there was no responsible or alternative option to significant cuts and no possible outcome that could satisfy everyone. The personal toll and gravity of those decisions have not gone unnoticed. And I deeply appreciate the care seriousness and compassion. You brought to this process. Also appreciate your strong desire and commitment to focus on economic development. And I want to emphasize that these budget cuts can open an opportunity to unite around a more effective and prosperous future. Thank you, MR. Mayer for acknowledging your comments about the opportunity and need to work with the business community in the Chamber of Commerce. The center is a Metro chamber stands ready to work with you in partnership to stimulate inclusive economic growth, laying the foundation for thriving new and existing businesses, a vibrant downtown increase local spending and tourism dollars and a diversified tax base. All key levers to strengthen our community's resilience and to build a stronger, more vibrant Santa Rosa, thank you. >> Thank Kim. And then Jenny, when did you wish to speak again? All right, with can. And then Tommy. >> Hello, >> my name is Kim Hawkins. And this is my husband, Chad. We have owned a small business in
Santa Rosa for over 20 years. This was our sole source of income as we raise for boys living here in Santa Rosa. We're located off West 3rd Street a couple blocks from downtown over the last 5 to 7 years. We have struggled with the unhoused and mentally ill population. The constant influx of people lighting fires in our parking lot, leaving trash human waste, stealing our electricity and water, destroying our property has cost us thousands of dollars. We needed to put great summer scar skylights due to people on the roof of our building. Putin metal roll-up doors to protect the glass storefront at 9 Putin cameras and security lights so we can keep an eye on things at nights and on weekends. Put cages and all our exterior, electrical plugs and water spigots, replace signage due to destruction. And repaint parts of our building due to tagging and graffiti want to pull times. It has created times where I felt unsafe to be at my own business without my husband present with the expansion of the downtown enforcement team through the Santa Rosa Police Department. We have seen impactful change. We have had someone we get called to help us remove these unwanted guests. It has reduced our cost of weekly cleanup. It has created a presence to keep unwanted people away with the reduction of this team or a reduction in the police force in general. I fear our ongoing issues will increase once again. We feel your action in reducing officers is counterproductive in a time where you need to be focused on creating opportunities to help businesses thrive. You are
reducing their support. You already have an issue with many commercial building sitting vacant. People don't want to start new businesses when the no they will have to deal with these destructive issues when it's already tough enough to be a small business owner. You should be doing everything in your power to support existing businesses and encourage new businesses to want to set shop in Santa Rosa instead of your mindset being cut, cut, cut. Let's figure out a way to build and grow. We want to be a city that thrives. We both feel that any cause to first responders are ill-advised. The community has seen far too many violent events over the last several years. And the first part of this year we've low income housing structures being built consistently to in our vicinity. It is unfair for you to expect the people that live and work to continue to invest in the city. If the city one invest in the community. >> Thank you. Cam Tommy. Thank you, mayor. Step and members of City Council. I've been a public servant for the city of Santa Rosa for more than 2 decades. My family and I have a vested interest in the city. The police department has been a team player in everything we've been asked to do even to the point of our own operational demise. We constantly do more with less. It has become a motto, our previous staffing studies have outlined this. You are faced with a difficult decision tonight. The police department is slated to lose 8 police officers, possibly a 9th police officer. These cuts can
not all be absorbed in the patrol division by those officers answering calls for service in answering calls in progress. These cuts will affect the investigations to bureau. Also known as our detectives with the cuts of 8 officers. I will lose a detective. That detective will likely come from our domestic violence and sexual assault team, which is already one of the busiest detected teams. When in terms of call outs in volume of investigations, should the police department be asked to cut this 9th police officer? I will have no other option but to collapse our proactive special enforcement team. Which has already eclipsed the number of firearms it sees last year. And it's only JUNE. Due to the team size and supervision. Making cuts elsewhere is not safe or efficient. Our community is safer with these investigative teams, including the Special Enforcement team. As I mentioned, the special enforcement team has already exceeded the number of guns seized last year. And that to statistics from 2024 reaffirm their success. 69% crackdown on illegal ghost guns with 129% rise in seizures. 59% reductions in shooting events. 71% decrease in homicides overall with 0 gang-related homicides. 55% increase in firearm seizures from juveniles. 56% reduction in calls for service involving shootings. Please do not cut the additional 9 police officer. Let us be team players and state would be agreed upon original proposal of a police officers and 4 professional staff. >> Thank you, Tommy. Are there any other members of the
public would like to speak? All right. Gonna bring it back to council for a final comments. And then I believe in a certain point, this MacDonald's has to pass to vacate for the vote. City of Medan City Attorney. Am I correct about that? At this point meant Councilmember MacDonald should go ahead leave you all can discuss the recreation and parks components. Okay. Take action on those items. There are multiple resolutions. And then when you're finished that part, we can invite Councilmember MacDonald to come back. Thank you for that clarification. Thank you, MR. Donald. So let's let's start with Rec and MR. Creepy. Mayor. Cannot We do 5 minute recess, please? Absolutely. Let's take 5 minutes will reconvene at 6.30. Thanks to everyone for their patients. We will reconvene here. MADAM City clerk, do we need? We still need to call the rule, correct? Or let's color own every of a moment. Thank you. Councilmember Rogers. Cookie here, Councilmember MacDonald has stepped due to her recusal, but is present. >> Councilmember Fleming Air Councilmember Ben Willows Vice Mayor Alvarez wasn't step here. Let the record show all councilmembers are present. >> All right. Again in this segment and process, we brought it back to to council for a motion that any final comments about the rec and park portion of the budget. MR. Gripping. >> Yeah, thank you, mayor what
we have thing for the listening public. 6 more motions to more items here. But before we take take that that involved. A reduction in force, which is and I just wanted to make comments about what that actually means for people in their lives. You know, we say reduction force, we say layoffs, but the true that we all know is that that means that we will be sending people home >> you know, just a few weeks who won't have jobs here with us and it's a loss for them is a loss for our family, for family's loss for us here at the city. And I just wanted to acknowledge here that that I take this really seriously that I know all of my colleagues take this really seriously and that I'm committed to looking for ways that we can both stabilizer budget and reduce people that comes to operationally. But moreover, for the families and individuals that are impacted that this is something that we take really seriously that we care about deeply and that we wouldn't be doing if we had any other good options. I know that can help much, but I just figured it was important said rather than to to not acknowledge the seriousness of the situation. Thank you for that been one those. Thank you, Mayor. I really want to second what Councilmember Fleming said. >> None of this is taken lightly. I a so appreciate all the work that's been done by staff. And it's been this has been really, really difficult. And what what I would say is having even in my own work colleagues who've who've let go and going through this process. So I've watched a lot
of people cry and I. I just want to say, I really feel for all of you that MAY be affected. I'm hoping that they'll be other opportunities for folks, whether it's with the city or even better opportunities with other organizations as councilmember Fleming said, you know, this is if there were another way to do you know, I you know, I would welcome it. And I just want to say. I do feel deeply, not because I've been through it myself. And I know this is really hard because it affects your life so much. So just to say this is not. Hopefully them, you know, I think know this sounds horrible. One door closes. Another door opens. I really do believe that that can happen for a lot of folks. So and that is what I'm hoping for. So I don't go into this lightly. I know none of us do. But I do think that there MAY be other opportunities in the near future because so many of you are so talented in and in so skilled at what you do. So thank you. MR. Rogers. >> I I repeat it, but I think that it the same for all of us is very difficult. You you read the names because they are people and I know that they have families in. We knew that before we came up here tonight, but it's still in a different way when you, you know, the names. I can just say that I think we're going be making, sir. We are going to be making some some cuts tonight I hope that we can start to restructure things
and do things a little bit differently. Not saying that we're doing them wrong, but just saying that it never feels good when we have to lay off people. So that is a commitment that you have for me that we will start to really not leave any rock any stone unturned and really look at ways that we can be more efficient here at the city. And in what we do so thank you, mayor, for that opportunity. >> Thank you all for making those comments. All of us here in the day as have have worked with the individuals affected for None of us. None of us want to be doing this. We all want to get back to to time when we're investing in the city. When growing. That's the goal of Alright, gonna take us a few years. But we're going to get there. And with that, turn it over to MR. Crabb game. All right. I'll move to waive reading of the tax and adopt resolution. Tiled resolution of the Council of the City of Santa Rosa proving the recreation and parks budget within the fiscal year 2025. 26 operations and maintenance budget and capital improvement program. >> We have a motion and a second by MISS Rogers. MADAM City Clerk. >> Thank you. Mayor Councilmember Rogers, I Councilmember Okrepkie Councilmember MacDonald has recused Councilmember Fleming. Councilmember Ben Yes. Vice Mayor Alvarez Mayor step yes, but the record show this resolution passes the 7. The firm part me 6 affirmative votes. >> Thank you and medicine attorney. I think we can invite Councilmember MacDonald back into the slammer. Think we have one other another
solution that pertains to recreation and parks from which he would be recused and then once we have a vote there than Councilmember MacDonald can come back and thank you for the clarification. All right. I'll move to waive reading of that accident the resolution town, a resolution of this council, the city of Santa Rosa, amending the city salary plan and schedule for recreation parks by eliminating reclassifying or adding positions. >> authorizing the city manager to implement these changes include the fiscal year 2025. 26 budget subject to the complete completion of the meet and confer process. Second, we have a motion and a second to get by this Rodgers. Thank you. Councilmember Rogers. Councilmember Okrepkie Councilmember MacDonald has recused councilmember Fleming. Yes, Councilmember Ben Willows. Yes. Vice Mayor Alvarez. >> Mayor step yes. Let the record show this resolution pass of the 6 affirmative votes. Thank you. >> Now I believe can write Councilmember Donald back in. Is correct. Thank you, MR. Mayor. She arrives without a procession this time. MR. Creepy, back to you. A move to waive reading of the tax and adopt resolution entitled Resolution to the council. The city of Santa Rosa approving the budget for the city of Santa Rosa for fiscal year 2025. The capital improvement. >> Program budget for fiscal year 2024. And establishing reserves for the 2025. 26 fiscal year. While also removing the 9th officer cut. We have a motion a second by MISS MacDonald.
>> I'm sorry. What was it? The point of clarification? 8. So you're bringing it down to 8 officers or you're doing 9 officers. >> Removing this. The recommended 9th officer. >> You're moving perfect. Thank you. Thank you. >> Through the mayor can ask for clarification, did you say through the cip budget? Did you read the title? Of the resolution? I don't think the cip budget has a officer. >> This has approving the budget for the city of Santa Rosa for fiscal year. Com of the capital improvement budget for fiscal year and establishing reserves. So my presumption is that. Would also include. Those positions. >> There is a additional resolution that includes the full-time equivalent positions. Believe it is on next resolution that you're going put a motion on the floor, but wouldn't it have to be both both the funding and the position? Yes, the I the my recommendation is that if you're going to eliminate the cut of the 9th officers to keep the 9th officer, you would need add that language in both the motion you just made. >> And with respect to the next resolution. Maybe we should a state that more clearly general public. That is our goal here. We want to add back that 9th officer we have we have heard public safety loud and clear. And so that's the intention with that change to the motion. >> So we do have a motion and a second by MISS MacDonald. >> Thank you. Councilmember Rogers, I Councilmember
Okrepkie I Councilmember Macdonald. I councilmember Fleming. Yes. Councilmember Ben Willows. Vice Mayor Alvarez, step? Let the record show that resolution passes unanimously. >> Number 5 of 7, I will move waiting of the reading of the text and adopt a resolution entitled Resolution. The Council of the City of Santa Rosa amending the city salary plan and schedule by eliminating reclassifying are adding positions and authorizing the city manager to implement the changes include in the fiscal year 2025. 26 budget subject to the completion of the meet and confer process while also removing the recommended 9th officer position. >> second. >> a motion and a second by MISS Rogers. Thank you. Councilmember Rogers, I Councilmember Okrepkie I Councilmember Macdonald. I councilmember Fleming. >> Councilmember Ben Willows. Yes, Vice Mayor Alvarez We're step yes, that's a record show. This passes unanimously. >> All right. I to waive reading of the tax and adopt a resolution titled Resolution of the Council of the City of Santa Rosa sitting the stormwater utility budget in determining the amount of available funding that has been received from the flood control Zone. Benefit assessment in fiscal year 2024. 25 in based thereon setting the storm water assessment for equivalent residential unit for the fiscal year 2025. 26. Have a motion a second again, Rogers. >> Thank you. Councilmember Rogers. Councilmember Okrepkie. I Councilmember Macdonald, I councilmember Fleming. Yes, Councilmember Ben Yes, vice Mayor Mayor, stop. Yes. Let the record show this resolution passes unanimously. >> And then the final motion is I will move waiving reading of the tax and adopt
resolution entitled Resolution of the council. The city of Santa Rosa amending the transaction and use Tax Implementation Plan for Gang Prevention, Intervention Services. Second, it motion and a second MISTER Rogers. >> Thank you. Councilmember Rogers. I Councilmember Cookie, I councilmember MacDonald. Councilmember Fleming. Yes, Councilmember Ben Willows. Yes, Vice Mayor Alvarez. Step yes, but the records show this passes unanimously. >> Thank All right. We will move ahead to our final try to retain her final public comment on non agenda matters. Are there any members of the public who wish to comment any items not listed on the agenda this evening? Seeing none. We'll close public comment and we are officially adjourned. Thank you, everyone.