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negotiators. And with that, MADAM City clerk, MAY you please conduct public comment? Mayor, there is no one in council chamber. Therefore, there is no one providing public comment. >> Thank you very much. We want recess into closed >> Hello and welcome back, everyone to our 2 over a 2024 Santa Rosa City Council meeting. It is now 2, 3, and we will be resuming army saying the corn city clerk Lee, please call the roll. Thank you, Mayor Councilmember Rogers, you're Councilmember Okrepkie your councilmember MacDonald. Councilmember Fleming, you're Councilmember Alvarez. Vice mayor, stop here. Mayor Rogers PRESIDENT, let the record show that all council members are present with the exception of Councilmember MacDonald. We will now proceed to item 4.0. 4.2, our study Sessions for the day. MADAM City manager. Good afternoon. Mayor members of council item 4.1 is the senior housing combining district for mobile home parks. >> So I'll turn it over to the team and have them introduce themselves for the record. Good afternoon. Gave Osborne director of planning and economic development. >> Good afternoon, Amy Nicholson, supervising planner. >> Good afternoon. Christian Canary. A city planner. Ok? Thank you, council. The purpose of this study session today is to provide the council with an overview of our existing senior overlay district and to talk about a process that would involve annexing or rezoning properties that are existing into that district. And before I headed over to the team to go over the really nuts and bolts of what we're looking at today. There's a few important points that I wanted to bring forward in the beginning that hopefully help frame the

conversation. The first is a overlay district or a planning overlay is really specific for planning purposes. And in this particular it controls the use and a senior over late in particular terms controls that age range in which the individuals can occupy rent or own the units. And it's typically 55 or over. It is generally a certain percentage of the units on site. That's been the very typical senior overlay, our existing senior overlay was a product of a new development that the senior overlay was adopted with the development. And it was really an elective of the developer. So the developer knew going into it that the senior overlay would be on top of the parcel in a case when we are rezoning properties without permission into an existing zoning district. It creates a different element because in some situations the property owner MAY not want that. There's more community engagement goes into that, a better understanding of how that impacts the parcel. So that's really the difference between our previous senior overland. What we're dealing with today and anytime we go through this, other jurisdictions, have we have seen similar actions from what's being requested from the community here from Petaluma Cotati. They are running through the course of that. And think it's really important sometimes to understand the legal challenges or constrains around that. And that will form some of our recommendations today and much of that. And in some situations to be a wait and see to help guide how that policy looks moving forward. This also does not control rent. That's a really important point. This is specifically about the use of

the property that's done through other means. It also doesn't control formal affordability and that's done through a separate process as well. So this is specifically about a zoning overlay on the use. So with that, I will hand it over to Christian who will work us through. Walk us through the sides. Excuse me. Good afternoon. I'm Aaron Rodgers and members of the council. >> Going over the senior housing combining district and how it would affect mobile home parks. So the project description would this is a community request to add the senior housing combining district related 12 mobile home parks, which currently operate as senior parks. The background and OCTOBER 2012, this was a result of litigation from the city and adopted an ordinance amending the zoning code to create senior housing combining district and Mobile home Park. Residents have attended several city council meetings to request this for the mobile home parks. Also wanted to mention that this item is not typically noticed. Study sessions. So this was noticed to 60 mobile home parks in English and Spanish due to the large amount of residents and owners that could be affected. Some of the general comments that receive from public comment would to add the senior housing designation to protect low-cost senior housing options. Adding overly MAY not be the best approaches that MAY lead to an increase in rent or closure of parks. The overlay does not contribute affordable housing and mobile homes are lower income housing option for seniors who otherwise could

not live in center. Is that? So this is a map of the mobile home parks in the city. Green isn't for 55 pass in the blue is the all-ages parks. And then here is a list of those. And green would be the 55 age parks. And then this would need to be verified if we move forward with a senior housing overlay on these sites. Senior housing combining district, this distric change the zoning of the parcel from mh time. 8 stocks h. Existing mining district is for. The requirement is to have 80% of the units to be required to be occupied by at least one person that 55 or older. And then a senior housing regulatory agreement is required with the housing authority. Then there is biannual verification of occupancy. The following. I come from the 2023 to 2021 housing element that was adopted in FEBRUARY 2023. Has 3 goals about affordable housing and for senior households. And then there are 20,000 units occupied by seniors over One-thousand district to the part of units for seniors. For some general information, the senior housing overlay would restrict com of the homes to be 80% occupied, but at least one resident of that is 55 and over. It would keep a low cost for mobile home units available to seniors. And then any additional sentence that would need to be added would be at the request of by council. And that would be in zoning Code amendment. Would be a zoning code text amendment. So the process for staff. Prior to council action, this will be largely

on the planning and economic development department. So this would consist of that recent residents in Mobile home park owners, additional research into the topic drafting amendment and then drafting the code text amendment if required. After the council ordinance would largely be on the housing and Community Services team. This would be for the initial age verification. Residents, the senior housing regulatory agreements recorded against the property and then the biannual verification of occupancy by all residents. There are some considerations at play here. So for the benefits preserves units for seniors really nuts that are generally available at lower costs. And then for challenges. There are the short term staffing as stated before. This would be a requirement for the planning economic development department. Then there's long-term staffing impacts for housing and community services. And then property owner concerns for compliance and regulatory agreement and then limiting for development potential in the event of a park closure. That's of sites where rezoned. There are currently cases happening in the area and city staff is currently tracking both of provide update when it becomes available. The request for City Council to provide direction for a study session is exempt from see quiet. And is there a possibility that the action will have any effect on the environment? It is recommended by the planning economic Development Department that the council hold a study session to provide direction to staff and whether to proceed with the senior housing combining district for 12 existing mobile home parks pending resolution of related local litigation. Okay. I apologize. But if I can summarize really

quickly with the areas where I think feedback would be useful to the process, Christian mentioned, the next steps moving forward or development of a policy that would bring those parcels so we can accept any feedback based on that. Our recommendation >> would be to wait in better understand the legal climate around that really happy to accept any feedback regarding policy direction. We comprise more clarity on what that would look like. But just game where the council stands. Firm recommendation standpoint on policy direction. Moving forward. >> And with that, we will bring it back to council to see if there any questions. And we'll start with Councilmember Okapi. >> Thank you. MADAME Thank you so much for that presentation. What forsman of this look like? So what happened are we able to proactively prevent anyone 50 50, 400 from moving in what we have respond to someone. >> Being under the age limit. But generally we have director passenger here joining us today and making can talk a bit more about the process. One would go through to verify that the age restrictions are met. >> I think in simple terms when you have a violation of that agreement, you're looking at whatever enforcement tactics are identified in the agreement when these requirements are invested in the zoning code, it can be a code enforcement action. If there's an identified violation of that affordability agreement or a violation of the code. But happy to bring Megan down. If there is any additional questions about the agreement process and how that would be enforced. >> Yeah, I think my biggest concern would be, you know, we

have a a affordable have affordable units as a pre verification to move in there. The rentals Beaufort about 70 per to sing property. That's where I need a little more clarification. >> Good afternoon. I'm passenger director of housing and Community services. So in response to your question, the or the city code which specifies the senior overlay. It doesn't prevent ownership of the unit, but occupancy. So the verification process would require that 80% of the overall occupants meet the 55 or older threshold and just one individual in the unit needs to be 55 or older. And if one of those units is not have somebody, that's 55 older. >> So we would look at the park as a whole as it applies because it's 80% of the units. >> And then there are remedies. We would need to go through with the park because they should be working with the owners or the renters prior. The moving in and executing leases for those spaces. >> If they're not the says ownership. Again, the park should be notifying those individuals before they purchased the unit of the requirements. But we MAY need to look at more specifics as it applies to mobile homes because it is a little bit different then with a rental property. So there MAY be some additional work that we need to do if this ordinance was to proceed. Messenger, think you >> maybe answered it. So if someone let's say I live with my grandma. >> But 20, my grandma passed away. And I have to move out. >> So again, it wouldn't prevent you from owning the unit, but it would depend on the park. So 80% of the units need to be occupied by

individuals that are 55 or older. So it depends on the average is within the park. And then also if there are specific park rules that are in place. So the owner has the ability to read If there is 100 units, they have the ability to 80 units to individuals that are 55 and older. >> And the 20 units not and if my grandma dies, then I have to get out because it would take them over the threshold. The way the ordinance is drafted. It's minimum of 80%. >> But again, I think as this applies to mobile home parks, we MAY want to look at some additional language because it is a little bit different. Then a true ownership unit where you own the land in the improvements or of rental where we're going through verification of age and income upon occupancy. >> And the reason why I ask is because it's already very hard families to have any ownership. Sometimes. And if it's an affordable unit in, they already live there for them to be displaced. It makes me a little skeptical because then where do they go? And then what can they afford? And I don't think my grandma would want that to happen to me. I'm just saying so it's like how do we put in measures to prevent it? Things like that from from occurring. So that's why I asked. Any additional thanks, >> Thank you. Thank you for the presentation you referenced the ongoing litigation in Petaluma Cotati. Could you provide a few more details about I believe I will defer to our city attorney on that.

>> So there has been litigation filed against both the city of Petaluma and the city of Kentucky. It's very early on in that light in litigation, there are challenges that the pleading stage, which just means that they haven't gotten into Discovery the parties are determining whether or not the pleadings are sufficient to move forward. There been a variety of state and federal claims asserted so again, it's it's fairly early on in that process. And we won't know for quite sometime what the outcome of that litigation might >> I remember correctly that? Because of the litigation was additional requirements that the 2 cities where potentially going put on the mobile home park operator operators. Which then caused the mobile home operators to threaten Park closure. >> So you MAY be remembering you MAY have more details about how they got there. But the challenges here are really limiting the mobile parks to being senior a lead to some extent and the claims that are being inserted are discrimination. Laws under state and federal law. Variety of them, whether or not any of those claims have merit. We will have to see, but that that is what the plaintiffs in those cases are surging against those 2 cities. Understood. Thank you. >> Councilmember MacDonald. Thank you, mayor and I apologize for my tardiness to the meeting. You MAY have covered this, but >> could you walk me through who gets the transfer tax when we're looking at the 10% right

now because that to me is really the crux of things. Are they already paying property tax to the county? And then where does that 10% currently go to the homeowner? The next homeowner pays it. So I I think that needs to be clarify. Councilor MacDonald's, are you referring to the 10% in place transfer that is included in the rent control ordinance? Probably if I could hear you correctly. I apologize. So it's the transfer tax that I'm looking at. Who gets that? So I didn't. I believe what you're asking is when we conducted the ordinance update for the Mobile home, Rent control. When the cpi was reduced to 70% of cpi, we included a 10% in place transfer. So when a mobile home turns over cells to a new owner, the space right can be increased by 10%. So it is passed on to the new owner. So in addition to the 4.9% that they're kept on raising that one. But 2 Guillory of the year, they could actually go up to 14.9%. That correct. I don't know. That's a correct calculation. But that's not directly address whether is going check me. I just want to make certain that where >> the topic that we're discussing, I don't know of director passenger was prepared to discuss this today. Not discussing about doing it study session on I'm sorry. They missed that. Okay. We're talking about the overlay zone. So as we the senior park overlay is part of the ordinance to include language on that. Okay. So then I would like to bring not back in the next study session that we look at that part of the ordinance because that

seems to be what we're hearing from advocates in senior mobile home parks at that particular transfer fee is. Causing problems. So these are separate components of the city code. And this is specific to the zoning of the property and the 10% in place transfer is related to the mobile home Rent Control Ordinance, which is in Chapter 6 of the city cut. And we're looking at the zoning comfortably. This chapter 20. Councilmember MacDonald I made try to help out here that this might be a topic that you could bring up. >> During the part of the agenda where you had request to have a future item. This is not really what this study session is about, although that we are talking about mobile home parks in both cases. But this is really about the overlay zone. Not about the transfer component. >> That's not included in this whole conversation. Now. Okay. I think the other thing is it's a study session to potentially do a study session. So that part of the language was a little confusing to me as well. So it's not to bring more items forward in the next study session. No. So we're looking at the overlay. Zoning. And if you would like to see that on future. Agenda for study session, then you can bring it up during your report. Are there any additional questions from council? I did have a clarifying question. I know how it impacts the seniors and I why it's important. The part that I'm not understanding is if it does not affect rents. How does it impact the park owners? Right? I did hear you

say that, right? It does not effect rates so having a difficult time with figuring out how it affects both. Sides of the argument. So, yes, happy to answer that. So generally with any zoning overlay creates an additional restriction on the property in some way, shape or form. And in this particular case, it is limiting the use of those units, btus individuals in a certain age category. >> So we're really impacts the operation of the park is in the event of redevelopment of the site. And I think similar but different as we saw journeys and unfortunately transition through the Tubbs Fire and they were processes where there was a park closure. This would still limit that even in the event that the park closure existed because the overlay would not go away. The only way to get around in overlays, really individual or a blanket rezoning of the property. So essentially rezoning parcels into the overlay and property owner can request to rezone out which would be a future council action. So it actually really just adds additional restriction that no matter how the use of the property changes through redevelopment, from the physical setup of the site, it's still retains that restriction under the zoning code. >> But in the case of journeys they still have the option to come to to give a compelling reason about why we. Should take that away and allow them to have other housing. Options instead of the senior overly correct. >> And that is a correct statement. They would have an option to come back to the council to request to get out

of the scene overnight. >> Thank you. So The answer to your question to simplify it for me is it just creates another step. For them if they want to redevelop. That is a correct statement. Thank you so much. Councilmember Rogers. Yeah, just want to dig a little bit into it because there's also the additional incentive that seniors are typically more stable. >> And don't move is often. And by removing that requirement, if you have younger people who are in there, you could theoretically see substantial increases because of that 10% that was mentioned before over and over again. And also, I believe in the mobile home, rent control law for California. I believe if there's a certain percentage of units that become an occupied or if folks are not. Living in them, that there is risk that you can evict additional tenants from other parts of the park and then redevelop it. So as want to make sure that that was clarified as well, that there are other incentives, not just for developmental purposes, but in terms of that 10%. And then some of the other parts of the mro. >> there any additional questions from council? Senator, did you have something to say? You you look like you are. Now's your chance now. I did not. So with that, I'll pass it on to item. To clear. Can you please facilitate public comment on this item? Thank you, mayor. We are now taking public comment on item 4.1. If you are in the chamber and would like to comment but have not yet ready to speaker card or your name.

>> Please make your way to the podium. You have 3 minutes and a countdown. Timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for public record. If you choose to do so. We already have a speaker signed up. Please note that there are podiums on both the West side and the east side of the chamber and you can please line up accordingly. The first public comment will be from. One moment. Jody followed by MAY. See then Theresa. Jodi. Please make your way to the podium. >> Hello, my name is Judy Johnson and I am from Petaluma. So I can first start by saying the reason you would do this is to protect the senior citizens from homelessness. They actually bought their mobile homes to live in peacefully age. Senior park overlay zoning is not only necessary. It's imperative for the protection of senior citizens involved, rubble, affordable housing that they personally own. In Petaluma know this firsthand as a resident and a senior park in Petaluma being used as pawns in bad actor investment park owners taking over the markets. We have daily been faced with retaliations, intimidation, suicide attempts, physical health deterioration since so much more after passage of our senior park overlay for all senior parts in Petaluma 5 s that our city made a priority to pass in 4 months. Secured the vulnerable senior citizens, senior citizens who

purchased their home to age in place and peacefully must be protected from predatory park owners, our same park owners and all the other mobile parks. I advocate for. Are here within your city. Having purchased multiple parks here as well. Their blueprint is protections that have been illegally voted in like rent stabilization, increasing what they can do ground rents, coercing people into long-term leases against ab 27, 82 and overlays. If residents stand up for themselves, the attacker course the residents into submission. They litigate apart litigate and yes, they did but there was emotion of dumb. Your which is even better than a motion of dismissal. And in both Cotati and Petaluma, the city's won 2 of those 4 parts and are appealing the other 2 parts. They're going against which is a part of fair housing, housing for older people. It follows through in our senior park overlay. We speak from experience that they disregard our senior part overlaid daily, removing signs selling to all age and suing the city. In fact, we have rules and regulations that have to be for senior citizens as part of a senior park overlay. Imagine what would have happened if we didn't have an overlay pushing seniors to the streets. Ultimately they have now applied to close 2 parks in Petaluma. Ours is one of them. The city did vote in a prepayment for the process to deter that moving forward as a hack on us because after a lengthy process, it will be

the city voting on whether to allow the closure. Seniors have earned the right to age in place to live in peace and protect their investment of ownership to live within their means. These are your grandmothers in your grandfather's your mothers and fathers who have left a mark on every community. They have lived worked hard and deserved to live out their life without fear as an advocate for over 900 mobile Park, residents in Petaluma. Every senior deserves the protection of us. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be MAY see followed by Theresa. The next speaker. We MAY see followed by Theresa. >> 3 fingers that microphone. >> Hello, a seaman for Lynn and I love it. That Square Gardens, mobile home park. And I'm and fortunately victim out there and judges. So for your sake and mine, I'm not going to speak for very long. I just want to state that I decided to move to Santa Rosa after looking for a year and mobile home parks throughout the state of California. And I mean, I looked every city that I could think of. Santa Rosa was the only place offered any kind of security that I could see that would make a mobile home, good choice. I was selling my home. It was going to a place. I'm going to have to put them money and live in for ever. And I really didn't want to live in some moving to something that was going to go away or change. And I gave you guys credit in knowing what you're doing. I believe Santa Rosa have my best interests in mind. So I picked you. So thank you for being. But you are in the city that way. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker will be Teresa

followed by Roger. >> Good afternoon. I'm Teresa Franklin currently residing so Quick Gardens Mobile home Park. I'm not prepared with a statement, but I'd like to say thank you so much for your consideration regarding this issue. That means so much to to all of us. The profitability of mobile home parks is well established and one feature that enables investor groups as is a trend throughout the country and specifically in the state of California. It is to change the parks to all age parks and do exactly Councilmember Rogers alluded to, which is and Councilmember MacDonald. Capitalize on the in place transfer fee and do that repeatedly with residents who don't have longevity options are multiple versus seniors having a limited income. So in 5 or 6 years that we've been there, our rent has increased quite significantly. And that does not it isn't commensurate income increased. So lots of folks end up behind the 8 ball and underwater attempting to stay there. Many, many residents are also having family members contribute to their housing as it currently exists. I really appreciate the research that was done. That demonstrates clearly the challenge is to profitability, rent increases and other members that make it a viable option for park owners are not affected by this. What it does is prevent park owners from changing it to all ages, which changes the quality of our life, the stability of our

life and the affordability of our life and increases their profitability. I'm not knocking making a profit. That's that's the American way. But we don't want to do it on the backs of seniors. I I was a professional. The community for many, many decades, a homeowner, a taxpayer, all of those kinds of things and the choice to downsize and drop into senior housing was a sacrifice on my part. So I could give a leg up to my adult kids so they could afford a home in Sonoma County, which is totally out of reach for most young working families as everybody here knows. So we ask that you take this seriously past the senior zoning overlay take up the issue of the in place, transfer and reduce it so that owners aren't incentivized to do a turnover help us secure housing as is stated in the element and the goals of the city. So we maintain diversity in population and we have a viable senior community. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Roger, followed by Bonnie than Rona. >> thing on. Good afternoon, Mayor Rogers and council, thank you that. And the students I MISS You at the barbecue out there in JULY. That's a nice Almost 6 years ago we came before you you were doing a stage win over Will go tell only asked for 3 simple things wasn't much got much more than we deserved. We didn't deserve that 10% in place transfer fee. We didn't deserve what staff did when they missed open. Part of us got charged. And For that part. We're not asking for

much here today. Seniors are large growing group in Sonoma County. Social Security, people only those only received social. No can qualify to get into our parks. The 10% increase price to You're good and ranch. 909 $30. They're going to have 3 times that income. They're not gonna call item. Sold her house. Have the money can qualify to get We need to preserve a senior housing. Russ. I moved to senior community 24 years ago to get away my kids and my grandkids. It didn't work. They do come home once a while. Would appreciate consideration. There's always the chance litigation. One thing to keep so much of away from Santa Rosa is huge Million Dollar Fund. To administer ordinance. We have security. We're going stop. Somebody can figure out just and say led to nba. Please protect our houses. From park owners when they sell to a corporation immediately. Thanks. Turns Gleeson everything they can. To try show their investors. We're making a big problem. It's not necessary. There's a whole lot laws from the federal government. To protect senior housing. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Bonnie followed by Dona and Joanne. Bonnie Rona than Joanne. I'm do. I do. Next body goes next. Around her I'm here. Nobody petty then Rona. Then Joanne o k? >> My name is funny. Patty and

I live in Santa Rosa in Rincon Valley and was a village mobile home park. I am also I am also co-chair of the Sonoma County chapter of the California Alliance for Retired Americans. And in that capacity, I was appointed to sit Sonoma County steering committee that developed the Master plan on Aging for the for the county of Sonoma. I spent a year and a half on that and hopefully some of you saw the front page article that we just recently passed was accepted by the county. It was an article in the press Democrat on Thursday, OCTOBER 3rd, the talked about at Master Plan on aging. I just like to give you a couple of things that were said that first thing I would like to say is that there's there's a statistic that says that the fastest growing demographic of homelessness is not drug addicts. >> Or the other, you know, whatever the fastest growing demographic homelessness is. Seniors it's because of housing costs and medical costs. So Mayor Rogers, I can appreciate your question about when your grandmother passes and leaves the home to you and I you would be a wonderful neighbor. I would gladly have you as my neighbor. However, what I have to say is that we really need to protect these places for seniors. Maybe you could sell the house and give you the down payment on another place. That's just my opinion. But otherwise, I would love to have you as my neighbor, but I would like to point out a couple of things that we found in the master plan on aging process. It was

really didn't to earlier. Currently, 28% of kind of county residents are seniors. By Twenty-thirty. It's expected that 35% of our residents will be 60 and over. And that's just a couple of years from now. The state overall is projected to have 25% of his population. At 60 and over by 2030, Sonoma County hit that milestone in 2015. We are light years ahead only growing more and more. And then the last thing I would say I would call to your attention a preview. The previous time that I was here of a Forbes article said that Mobile senior mobile home ownership is one of the most lucrative investments a person can make. It is recession proof and every other variation. It the recession proof and everything else is one of the most lucrative things. A person can invest in. So crime poor on this is I'm sorry. >> Thank you. The next speaker. Thank you. The next speaker will be Verona followed by Joe and then Lisa Marie. >> All ages park. It's Ben Ali, just for the last 20 years. >> The problem I have is I do not understand what will happen if the park does not qualify for 80%, which you want at this point. And if park owner is the one who is doing things spectrums to make sure there's a senior living in a 2% of the houses that's putting the wealth in with the sheep to protect them. Our park owner would have a great time. Just saying there's not enough seniors because then they could raise the rent and all the units. Because it would not qualified to a

senior park. Or rent control. So and there's another problem. Don't know what the other parks, but in cutting town, we're not allowed move senior into a house. If that's what you're thinking. We have rules in place that require the management to approve anybody who moves into a house and they would it would be a dad tend to just for them, does not approve any seniors, wouldn't it? So I don't get this. It looks like you're all ages parks, just going to come, not senior approved and the rents can go up and all of including all the seniors. I know I cringed a little soon, but that's really all I have to say. Thank you. The next speaker will be Joanne followed by Lisa Marie than Randy. >> Joanne, go ahead. >> Good afternoon. Mayor Rogers City manager Smith and council members. My name is Joanne Jones and I'm the PRESIDENT Of the Santa Rosa Manufactured Homeowners Association. It is critical to our health and well-being to protect the investments we make in our homes last year. Carriage court in Santa Rosa. Originally a senior park for many years was changed to a knowledge park. Then in JUNE of this year, the residents were notified of a $400 rent increase and pressured or bullied into signing new leases or face eviction. Last year. Youngstown in Petaluma as Jodi was talking about, was hit with a sudden $923. Rent increase little woods in Petaluma. A 300% rent increase and Capri Villa in Petaluma a $328. Rent increase. 3 of these parks are operated by Harmony Communities in

Stockton. And one is operated by 3 pillar communities in Los Altos. These companies go way beyond the reasonable limits of rent control and should be stopped otherwise rent control is useless and we are forced to fight until we run out of funds or our blood dry. I'm here to ask the mayor and the council to continue their support for the senior mobile home Park residents and to pass an amendment to the Santa Rosa zoning ordinance. This would apply to 12 senior mobile home or manufactured home parks that are regulated under the rent, stabilization Ordinance, which requires at least 80% of the space is occupied by or intended for one person who is 55 or older. We are asking the city that the senior mobile home park overlay shall be designated by the m h s on the city of Santa Rosa. Zoning map. And that the signage leases and rental agreements state that the park is a senior mobile home park. We do not have an enforcement agency to uphold the mobile I'm sorry. Mobile home residency law. In many circumstances, we have to enforce them among ourselves between the owner and the residents. So we count on our elected officials to do what is right. These are your constituents who MAY walk with canes or walkers or be isolated, but they deserve to be seen and to be heard and protected. Let them worry about when they might see their grandchild next and not about potential homelessness with no place for their home. >> Thank you. The next there

will a memory. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be Lisa Marie, followed by Randy. Thank you. And Mayor Rogers, we appreciate you taking the time to listen to us today. >> Obviously, we all have the same concerns in terms of advocating for the overlay in regards to our age, our health. I am a 63 year-old woman who is permanently disabled. >> sorry, I get emotional about this because I bought this home. To be safe. Rest of my life and am safe in my neighborhood. I feel safe with my neighbors watching over my home. We have very little crime. >> We have so many things that protect us. We do community things together. All these people are here because we talked to one another. It's community. And Santa Rosa is actually going to be impacted if this changes excuse me and also a health and safety way based on the fact that I live in the country mobile home Park, awful road. I don't know if you know what Fulton Road is like, but getting in and out of our park, there is only one entrance and one exit. And during the 2017 2019 fires, I I was not living there at the time, but I do know that many of you were and I've heard stories about how horrific it was. Can you imagine the impact on that road and getting in and out would be like if there were teens driving and mothers and fathers both driving their kids to school in and out different times of the day. We do not have sidewalks. We do not have protections for backing out of our driveways. Children would not be safe in an area like that on a daily basis. In my view. And I just think it's something that the

city should look at how it's going to impact the traffic flow. Sequoia, you have the same issue. You're on Fulton here. We're on Fulton here there. And I'm sure some of the other parks have the same issues. I just want you to take a look at all the parameters rather than just the fact that we are seniors that are crying for our own. You longevity in our homes and places to be safe. I would have never been able to buy a home if it hasn't been that it was a mobile home park that was an affordable place for for me purchase outright. I've been in Sonoma County since I was 18 years old. And I want to stay here. This is where my whole entire family is. And i'm sure all of these people that are here today are supporting that same situations. So please take a look at all the parameters before making a decision on this. This is what we ask of you. And we really appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker will be Randy. >> Randi, please go ahead. >> Just a on yes, okay. Just to let you know how long I've been here in Santa Rosa. My dads. Had to pay. Mortgage was $63 a month. So what he paid so I've been here all my life. And anyway, I was a mailman and I delivered to rent or could based on Calistoga Road. That's that's where I saw that mobile home and its. And so I could afford this one and then moved in. I wasn't 55 yet. So I had to pay 8 months. So it was over $4,000 and the only one that paid $4,000 to get into that park. It's a lovely part. Love all the seniors that are in there and as a mailman, sometimes the I help out like lady with her and care. I had to open up 12

things because she did have strength to open to break open the things but anyway. What I was saying, what I like about the park. It's a people are very friendly there. But what I don't like in the park is that there's drug use their there's 3, 3, mobile homes there that have truck there. And the police. We tried to get them to go, but they won't. Too busy doing other things and catching drug use in the in our anyway. That's the only thing it they come park. And then 15 minutes they'll take off the they take off and 15 minutes. They'll be back Anyway. My wife died 2 years ago and I thought, oh, boy, I'm going to get her Social Security. I'm thankful I have a pension, which get from the post office there. But my Social Security is $200 a month. So. Anyway, have been there 16 years. I just would like to see it kept is the senior things that. I joke with the people when I see several people there, they have their strollers going. So I says, oh, it's the races. So. It's just much better if you have a. Families in there, it's going to be more drug use in there besides just 3 houses. But anyway, I'd like to keep it all. Seniors. Thank you. >> Thank you. Speaker on the West Lectern. Please go ahead. >> It's good afternoon. My name is Fred, all Buck and I new resident of Santa Rosa and I moved from Sonoma Valley where everyone is a big fish a small pond. And so now I'm my small fish in a big pond. And

so I feel much more cosmopolitan in this room. Feels exciting to move to Santa Rosa. And I think that it's it's good that you that you taking this up and having a study session on this issue that shows that that Santa Rosa's caring about it and zoning change. Zoning is unknown. Waited to create, define and manage municipal space. And we know from single-family zoning. That's also known as exclusionary zoning and advantaged United States and history of the white middle class in the suburbs through zoning, single-family zoning. So senior overlay would be a form of inclusionary zoning away due to manage public space to include people who who have our threat of displacement and to protect lower cost senior options. Santa Rosa did protect wealthier seniors in Oakmont. And I think that what's good for the goose can be good for the Gander. And Santa Rosa can protect lower-income seniors in mobile home parks just as well. Milton Friedman, I did send comment today. I didn't know that I had to get in by a certain time, but I hope you have a chance to read my comment that I sent in today on issue. Economist Milton Friedman said that businesses job is to make a profit and government's job is to act as a backstop to market excesses. I think that what we're seeing in Petaluma is the market access is that need government

to act as a backstop for. And I don't think Santa Rosa needs to wait to take a more. And socially just stance for these legal outcomes. I want to ask the council please take off the gloves and provide all the help and protection you to all lower-income community residents, not just seniors. If the market takes its course. What happens is higher displacement and and we know we know what happens with the market takes its course is that people just keep getting ripped off. And and that's the way it goes. And see, I don't quite have notes in total order here. I think that's right to profit thing is is kind of a lark and that that that profit is the American way is also the American way to care about our communities and be good neighbors. And so it's not being good neighbors and being good Americans to rip off people for the least able to defend themselves. So I hope that you you really do work on this zoning in any and the other things that you can to help protect the vulnerable communities of Santa Rosa. Thank you. >> Thank u next speaker at the West Please go ahead on the West sector. >> Hi, my name Jane Drummond. And I live in Brookwood Park. Rincon Valley used to be in all each park and way back when I moved in in 2015. I'm not sure when it became a and senior park, but did notice in the MR. Rau. Think used 30 31 talk a little bit about this and in 1988, there was the Federal Fair Housing Act. But

in 1995, there was the older. Persons of the housing for Older Persons Act of 1995. Hapa and what they did is allow allow communities to become senior up until the year 2000. So I assume Brookly became senior park before the year 2000. I have asked myself why probably all these sometime back in that period became senior parks and now they're 70 75% of the parks under your jurisdiction. Our senior parts. So why did they go to senior parts? And I would assume because there's probably many reasons, but seniors were on fixed incomes. The rents comparable to apartments. Probably was a more stable environment for park owners. That was just my speculation. And but I just think it is important. I read an npr article few years back how seniors in mobile home parks are aging longer in the parks than they used to. So I just think it's important too. Allow us seniors that social environment that Fitz is best. That's all I have say. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker. Please go ahead on the sector. Speaker on the East lectern. Please go ahead. You please go ahead. Speaker. >> My name is Margaret stands. I didn't know I was going to be the last person after these good eloquent people. But I wanted to cut my husband and I moved here in 2005, We Live Inc gardens us in a very good place. I'm 76 and he's 85. And

if we had to move anywhere else, I don't know where we go. We live on his Social security and I work as a substitute teacher in all 5 high schools. And I do that. Well, I'm I'm glad to be able to do it and to be paid. But I worry about our kids. I used to feel like. That. I was the grandma of our district. There's a gang of us and we care about those kiddos and I'm grateful I can do it. I have a friend. I have a friend who lives in it. Another Bay Area County and >> her park was so today. >> a company out of Chicago and that ended her life. That's pretty much all they want to say. Thank you, council and Mayor and just sit, why spend money on low-cost housing when we have excellent low-cost housing in our senior parks. And community. >> Thank you. If there is anyone else in council chamber wishing to provide public comment on this item, please make your way to the podium. Seeing no one else approach the podium for public comment. Thank you very much bringing it back to council for our. Last comments. Come Thank you, MADAM >> In 1986, my grandparents moved here from New York, moved into the country mobile home park and live there live there until about 3 years ago when they moved out at 96 to 93 years old. So to Councilmember Rogers Point of more stable resident I can I can attest to that. I spent many a holiday. There are many summer in that pool playing shuffleboard playing pool. I know that place very, very

well on Salisbury Circle. So I So I'm very well acquainted with the importance of this because they were able to live there almost 40 years on Social Security and a government pension. I'm all for seeing this come would like to director massacre that I want to see more detail on what would happen with ownership. I I think our city has a good idea on what to do with when it comes to lease and rental. But ownership is something I understand will probably see litigation coming down the pipeline or possibly like other municipalities and agencies that have done this. But I like to avoid as much as possible to have a clear and concise enforcement policy when it comes to ownership again, having gone through this recently in 2021. Selling it is not unlike selling a house. It's not a very involved process with the park owners in things like that. So my fear somebody just buys it moves in at 33. And then now we're gonna have to unwind all of that, right? Because this overlay district. So again, I'd like to see this come back. And I think it's extremely important to her to our Asian community to have these kinds of places secure housing for the foreseeable future. >> Councilmember Rogers. >> I also want to see this come back as a count. That is, too. I know we need to get to 4. I think that's a really important issue. And I think that it's something as we've talked about many times, the last bastion of affordable housing for seniors that are living on a fixed income. Let's make sure that we protect that. Not just because it's the right thing to economically, but also morally, we need to make sure

that we have folks who can say in our community so love to see this come back for approval. >> Councilmember Fleming, thank you, Mayor. Thank you. All that coming out for coming out today and sharing your stories with us. I would like to see this come back and I'd like to see this come back both for the protective factors that it offers a seniors, but also for our own budget. A council. The fact that the market allows for seniors to be self-sufficient and age with dignity allows us here. The council to invest in affordable housing services and other areas just so grateful to all of you who've but in a lifetime of work in our continuing to maintain your communities and do all this. And I think this is kind of the least we can do it. It's kind of a no-brainer. Councilmember MacDonald. Like a pretty much just say ditto to what my colleagues have said today. You know, I want to make sure that we're addressing both things, the senior park overlay and my comments earlier and I can bring that back. >> When it comes to council reports around the 10% transfer It needs to be a separate item. That's fine. I do want to just say I councilmember Okrepkie my parents my grandparents lived in mobile home park as well. And they live on Social Security and they were able to live in that until they died because of the protections that were put in place. But had we not seen the growth that we had in Sonoma County. I don't know that they be able to afford to live there any longer. And so, you know, as a child, they were able to that they're in. So whatever we can do to protect our seniors in

our communities. And it is, as Councilmember Rogers said, one of the last things that we can do to protect senior housing. So I am for this coming back as quickly as possible so that we can get that protections in place that we need Thanks. >> And so I am definitely support of the overly I think it's important to protect our seniors and their housing. And I think that we should secure it. I am interested to see how the existing litigation is going. And I say that because I don't want to put something in place for our seniors and then we have to back out of it or it makes it worse for them. That is not my desire. And that's not something that I I think that we should do. Unlike Councilmember, ok, key in Councilmember MacDonald. My grandma did not live in mobile home park. But she did have to rely on her children to all pitch in for her to live. And so she wasn't able to live independently. How that must of felt for her to feel like maybe she was a burden on her children. And so I think all of you are doing great. I've had the opportunity to meet many of you and hear your stories and and you are wonderful people. You are a resilient. You're living your life. I think it's beautiful. You have wonderful gardens. You have a very wonderful place to live and we do want to see you maintain and keep that and like Councilmember Fleming said with dignity and your respect as you age. To state the obvious some of us aren't that far away from moving in next door to you. So I might be your neighbor after all. Do you need any additional? I think that you

received your 4, 5, To bring about. >> Thank you, mayor. That is helpful just to give clarity to the community. We will start moving this forward. Really? Our first steps are community workshops. A lot of the conversation today was about the existing overlay that we have in place and will have to better understand how that translates to mobile home. So we'll start working on that will also be mindful of the process of the legal action is going through to make sure that we're making informed decisions will work that into an overall timeline, understanding other priorities that the department's working on be able to communicate that. >> And because you're going to get email for me in like 2 seconds, I going to ask it now what happens when this does go into effect? Because I'm very confident that it's going to go into effect. What happens if a part has multiple ages? How does an owner come into compliance and is there a time frame that they have to come into compliance? Is the confusing part for me. >> So typically in the know hand this over to director Baston juror anytime we develop policy or procedures or zoning requirements, there's always the concept of grandfathering in an understanding with the transition plan looks like and that's really working directly with the park owners to understand the have if we create a noncompliant situation with the apa adoption of the ordinance, we usually allow time give the park the ability to get into compliance with that. So that's typically how we would bake that into the resolution. We but we have an understanding of what that noncompliance would look like before we would make that recommendation. >> Okay. That's a this both an email. Thank you so much. And with that, I think we will move on. Thank you so much for

being here and for your presentation today. >> And I will now pass it on to matter. City manager for next item. >> sorry. Ok? Actually. >> We're going to take a break until 3.10. So we'll be right back. It Thank you very much. We will now resume eating and we're at item for our second study session for the day. MADAM City manager. >> It didn't work, but I do 4.2 is vacant parcel activation strategies. Good afternoon, Mayor vice mayor and members of council gave Osburn director of planning and economic development. And joining me today is Scott Adair. And for those of you on the council that haven't had the opportunity to meet Scott, he is our new economic development. Deputy director. >> Using the working title of chief Economic Development officer. Also joining me today is Jill Scott. You know her well. She's our real property manager. These 2 individuals I think are really important to the conversation today from an economic development standpoint, there is quite the intersection between real properties and typical economic development Scott and Joe really have been partnering on the discussions today and some of the programs that are going to come out of that. So the purpose of today's study session is to go over some concepts and policies and procedures and a potential pilot program for the activation of vacant parcels. And we took a fairly global look at that. We looked at vacant privately owned parcels underutilized city space, underutilized city, parcels with a really a focus

on the downtown area, but also a concept of figuring out ways where we can expand that out. So the programs become fairly general. So we'll talk a little bit about some of the opportunities on the spaces and will also talk about a program that we've been working on that deals with pop ups and how we can encourage pop-up activity on parcels and connect the dots from the private property owner to project manager, as well as the permitting on the city side. So with that, I'll hand the presentation over to Scott and he'll go over a little bit of background. Thank you very much. Director Osborne. >> Hello, Mayor Vice Mayor Councilmembers, Scott Adair, deputy director of economic development for the city of Santa Rosa. And Nice to meet some of you for the first time and good to see the others again. >> Very pleased to present today on this item and working in collaboration with our real estate services manager Jill Scott. We've been working very closely on this item. >> The reactivation of an underutilized vacant space in our city really has staff focusing on 3 specific property types, those property types being vacant, parcels where there are no structures. PRESIDENT Vacant buildings or sweets within existing structures and also under utilized public properties that exist throughout the

city. This. Conversation that we're having today as part of this study session. >> And the proposal of the development of a pop-up program for vacant space. >> Activation and utilization actually aligns with the economic development strategic plan which was adopted by your counsel. The economic development, strategic plan specifies that the city and its staff identify opportunities to optimize land. Welcome new ventures into the community and support investing in a diverse community. And as I think many of us know it can create and cause a barrier to entry for businesses, especially disadvantaged businesses. When there are challenges to finding spaces in which to activate their business concepts. So we'll be talking a little bit today in this study session about creating more opportunities for these types of merchant locations. The goals of today's study session is really to explore together opportunities for activating both privately owned and publicly owned underutilized spaces and vacancies throughout the city to discuss what the type of activity could look like on these vacant parcels, which are either awaiting lease or sale or waiting development and to discuss and talk about what some of the options might be for providing additional temporary activation of these sites. We'll be focusing

primarily for today's conversation on our downtown station area. And I think that might be a few slides in. There we go. You can see pictured on the screen today, the downtown station area. The idea is to begin this program potentially as a pilot as the program is successful. And as we have measurable outcomes that seemed to indicate that the program is doing well. We could then potentially look to expand the program beyond this area. And of course, we're looking for input from council on how we define the pilot area for this program. The vacant parcels in particular. I'm gonna go ahead and turn it over to Jill Scott is going to talk a little bit about some of the opportunities and then I'll bring it back with a little bit more detail on what the development of this program could look like. >> Joe? >> Thank you, Scott. So we know from seeing another community is that there are so many opportunities pop ups not only 4 like activation, a violation of our downtown, but for retail food, music are you can see people have a You have an at home business and you want a chance to tester product market. This is a pop-up is a great place to do it. It's also great for the owners of the spaces that kind of shows what the activation can be and helps to lease them quicker rather than staying vacant longer. So there's a lot of opportunity for all types of businesses. Our public art program is another opportunity with pop ups. We have a great public art program that we've been building on asbestos, especially lately lighted art. And also window wraps can be

amazing for activation of the downtown. So it can take an area that MAY look blighted are run down or have graffiti. You can wrap it. You can show the opportunity and you can beautify the area. Some of the lighted art sculptures that are Our coordinator, Meredith is looking at. Our world-renowned. There's been some that have just traveling around the world that we're going to try to bring here to Santa Rosa. That can really just bring people to the area. So those are some of the things that we're looking at. Recreational activities. We've talked about this in the So things like play structures and pickleball are also possible they do come with. More significant challenges. What talk about the next slide. So with all great programs and things that worth doing, they come with challenges. And so some of the challenges are things like utilities are other utilities, available, water, sewer, electricity. What's the size of what you want to do? Is it going trigger ada service improvements? Some of those things can be one time expenses and can be manageable and other situations there that it's too much for a temporary program. So Scott staff and my staff will be working together closely council decides that they want to go through with pilot program to really figure out what areas can work and what is too costly to work. The other thing that will have to another things got to go over later that will have to work on a short-term leases. So for public space or for private space, we need to have leases in terms and and the costs of

those leases prep paired and ready to go so they can turn around in a really short time period. We're talking 24 48 hours. So on the city side, we would have those available and done and ready to go. And then we would encourage everyone in the private side. Also how the police in place that that works for you know, your terms and know your costs for a weekend for a week for a month. There are a couple other little restrictions that will need to think about not temporary use permits and the planning restrictions are for 12 months only so we'll need to work within those parameters. Next slide. And so looking at public spaces, some of the same opportunities and challenges for public spaces, right? We have some public spaces downtown that are city-owned such as Comstock Mall or different areas that we can also use this pop-up program to activate. Not only does it benefit the community in the city by less graffiti, less vandalism. It's really great for small things like small food, pop, ups or carts or push carts. We've seen that a lot. The East Bay and down in the and Southern California. And it's worked really well. There. And again, the challenges for us that we're going to need to look into and work through our the utility connections. Do we have utility connections to they need them? And are they available in those areas? They could be one-time expenditures that maybe you're too costly. That might be reimbursable through are recouped through the lease program. So staff Albee's gotten will be working closely going through that whole process. Thank you, Joe. Staff has been working to identify potential locations

and sites for this pilot program. >> And that is started with compiling and inventory of some of the available space that does exist in the market. We've been utilizing tools and resources such as costar to pull data on what those are, what that available inventory is and physically getting out into the community. Very fortunate that within my first few weeks here, our real estate services manager Jill Scott took me on many walks throughout downtown and we were able to observe and look at some of the opportunities that might exist for a program like this. It's important to also note that when we talk about potential reactivation of these sites and pop-up programs that doesn't have to be purely a merchant e news could be for art. Could be for entertainment. Could be for education. There are a lot of ways to activate these under utilized sites. And we've seen this being done in other municipalities and in other cities how this would work. There would be essentially 3 parties involved in this process. He would have the city. You would have the property owner and then you would have the the user, the end user or the pop-up utilize or of the site whether their retailer to an event based high pop up and the roles and responsibilities. Although we've laid them out loosely in this presentation would be further defined in developed if we were to move forward with the development of this program. But essentially the city would do act as a convener and a matchmaker and the city would work to bridge the gap between property owners and potential users of

the site to bring these 2 opportunities together to reactivate these areas in our downtown city staff would be available to provide technical assistance, both to property owners and merchants are other applicants looking to utilize these spaces promoting the availability of these spaces, which would likely entail the city housing some sort of an inventory list. And I probably the more complex part of this program would be too a temporary use allowance in this downtown area that we would designate as the pilot area for the pop-up program. Next slide. Please. Private property owners would be encouraged to work with the city. Obviously, it's a voluntary program. Some property owners MAY not want to participate, but city staff would be there to work with property owners too, sell the advantages and market the advantages of this program and how this program could be beneficial for their use. In some cases we've seen in other municipalities where these temporary pop-up users actually become long-term tenants are long-term occupants of these spaces. And we know that that's something that property owners are very interested in these. The individual property owners would need to work with our staff to understand how they can activate these sites quickly having processes that are pre developed. Oftentimes a pop-up user for space MAY not know until that Monday that the coming Saturday they would like to pop up and activate that site. And so we can work with property owners

so that they can create some standard operational procedures so that they have those in place ready to go to make it faster, more easier for the for the applicants. And also look at similar policies adopting those within the city for publicly owned sites are city-owned sites next slide. Please. And then the pop-up operators much like how we work with new businesses and entrepreneurs today. We will continue to have that same type of relationship with them working as applicant to help them to understand and navigate the process so that they can apply for sites that they MAY be interested in working with them to put them in touch with property owners but also teaching them as a temporary business or maybe a business that hasn't been licensed or permitted before with some of the obligations are on the business to comply with local regulations, licensing health code. It said drug and we would certainly then work with both the property owners, I think and applicants to track some of their engagement in their communities that we can understand measure the efficacy of a program like this next slide. Please. So there are various pop-up programs that exist throughout the state. We couldn't fit them all in one slide. Many communities throughout the state have and across the country have variations of this type of a program. Santa Monica has a pop-up grant program that's available for residents and businesses in community-based organizations. City of San Diego. They have a real robust sidewalk, vendor

entrepreneurial program for sidewalk vending the city of San Francisco launched their vacant a vibrant program. You can see in the slide here pictured on the right hand side is a map. Activation map of the pop up locations within the city of San Francisco. Our staff would utilize some of the best practices that do exist out there. We would look other examples like these reach out to our counterparts in those municipalities and those jurisdictions to really do our due diligence to understand the best components of these programs to adopt into a city of Santa Rosa program. Next slide. Please. So the next steps after receiving your feedback and your input today, staff would look to spend the rent remainder of this calendar year. 4th quarter of 2024 to complete essentially what I call the due diligence of this program, which includes reaching out to property owners to understand their needs better. Talking with other municipalities, looking at our zoning and permitting processes to see what types of changes we would have to make in House for in order to make it easier for applicants to activate these sites. At the beginning of the year, we would look to finalize program details and really put together the actual draft. Programmatic documents, the guidelines eligibility. Rick right area as cetera, so that we really have the collateral that we need to implement a program like this. And then by the following quarter, which would be cute to of 2025, the goal would be then to launch this pilot. We could bring

back a briefing at that time to council our report or a second study session. If there's desire for more input or just to hear from staff and what our findings are, and then we would look to work together. And as Joe indicated, our 2 agencies are looking to collaborate wherever possible to create prosperity for the city of Saint Rose and its residents. And we would then do final testing and launch the program. So with think go ahead and turn it back over to director was to bring us home. Thank you, Scott. And that actually concludes our presentation. So areas of feedback that would be helpful today is obviously we have the skeleton of a pilot program. So just getting general guidance about that from the council would be wonderful. >> of course, is there anything that we missed when it looks at this very broad category, if they can space and activating that they can space as we go through this journey, is there anything that we need to add to that to do list is we we analyze the options. >> Thank you very much. Looking to council to see if there any questions council member out us. >> You said this is Skelton and opposed to know what what deficiencies, what ideas or you might run into. I simply want to applaud your efforts and really trailblazing. So whatever problems arise. That's the beauty of it is shooting. The entrepreneur spirit. So keep going forward is what I can tell you and know that you have my support and making those connections with the businesses, the

property owners and the events or pop ups. And I did that. You're from up North and were pop-up. I have, you know. >> Councilmember Alvarez to Joe question. I guess I do now. When it comes to the health and safety, Shiite really do want to bring up issues because of so many that arise in program. >> Thank you. Trying troubling But if you do have a pop-up when when there's food involved, for a short period of time. How how do you actually? Get a prim and proper permit for short-term event, such as for food truck with food vendors. In a weekend prior to an event was with the short notice that you just mentioned as being a scenario. >> And that's actually really important challenge that we would have to address as part of this program, especially with food vending where you MAY have Sonoma County health in the mix and how do you manage other agency permits? I think the easy answer is you look to find blanket approvals for certain uses for certain periods of time. And if they're general in nature and especially with the temporary use permit, the broader it can be and the quicker we can turn that around to where we can be responsive to that he can improve the use. Now, I think the challenge is is there's a variety of different unique safety issues that can come in due to the uniqueness of that use. Those can show in the form of ada issues or other permit compliance issues they can show in the form of health. But I think if you set the framework up front and you understand that the universe is somewhat predictable and you try to address those with

blanket permitting. That's the trick here. It's a challenge to get there, but that is what will be placing the focus on. And with with that statement there. >> For the future. As as Rosa are the leaders of the North Bay. How do we encompass a strategy that are putting forth into our everyday private practice when it comes to permitting of businesses, evil storefronts. Hopefully that's something we keep in mind. Be more efficient as happened. Those issues. >> Vice Mayor step. >> Thank you, Mayor. Thank you very much for this presentation counties enthusiastic also, I think my head was going along with COUNCILMAN Or Alvarez to the to the food scene. Is there would there be some crossover with pop ups and the permitting for mobile food vendors? So when we have the fare every year, we We have a number of mobile food vendors who are parking their cars in front and there's questions about how to handle that in rose and in other parts of the city. There's a similar issue is, is, is it are we thinking of possibly designating certain spaces? It vacant lots and saying, hey, maybe there's a spot for the for, for Carter, for food, for mobile food vendors to operate and have and have those 2 problems intersect. Any thoughts in direction? I'll take a first step know that the team chime in. And I think that's an incredibly important point. And I think that's where we saw. >> a lot of people started businesses with smaller food carts. They grow the business to become some form incubator

and they move forward really where we are. And that standpoint is an education and understanding allowing people to get to the position where they can get the appropriate approvals for that. Really one of the challenges with the code and mobile vending is that it allows people to stay only for a short period of time. The roads and areas different because of some of the code language that was built as part of the annexation. So when we create special rules for those pop ups, it's very similar to basically food, car villages and things of that nature where they're more shorter term, understanding where those can go understanding the utility activation, the safety of it and how you permit that. Much of that is understanding what someone needs to have as far as business license as well to do that. So I think there's going to be a pretty significant educational component to find eligibility is part of that. But that's a wonderful idea and understanding how you take really that positive energy and funnel it into these areas where you can get compliance in easier way and allow people to really test out concept. And I think that's what a pop-up does. It tests out concept? If it's successful, we figure out ways to allowed to flourish and grow. >> I would agree the I would just add that this is one reason why we're framing this as a pilot program with the anticipation that there will be some learning as we go as we implement a program like this, there are some aspects to to programs like these,

which can be replicated and duplicated from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. But every city's unique, every business climate is is individual to its own community. And so there MAY be challenges that we have unforeseen yet. One thing, you know, conversation that we're having internally is with regards to how could this potentially be problematic from a a market saturation or a product saturation perspective. If we had 30 shoe top-ups occur around town, what would that do? A brick and mortar ShoeSource, for example. And so those are the types of things that will be thinking about. And as we continue to refine the program and we can bring updates either to this body or to the economic development subcommittee within continue to make minor modifications as needed or take measures so that we can address some of the issues like the one that you >> I think I'm thinking about food. Also. So my question is, I know you have available locations for people to activate we would like to activating go eat. So will there the advertisement and all a website or something that we can go to so we can know where we can eat for the weekend. >> I think looking at the city of San Francisco model, there certainly is a community. The attitude of celebrating these types of entrepreneurial activations of these sites and similar to how the city of San Francisco had a map available

or an app for consumers can download, you know. >> Where's the current, you know, hottest pop up today. What's happening? We can certainly collaborate with other community partners to do the chambers and our community improvement districts or benefit districts, etc, to help promote these types of activities and also to ask them, what are the types of activities or pop up activations? You would like to see within your community and how can we work together on that? >> Thank I don't know if you can tell that. I'm very excited. And council will make Thank you, The model that I've seen around pop-ups was added out of San Francisco. >> Where they have a special shop will come in sometimes open. They're local wineries and then they will have a huge event that attracts a lot of people. So I'm very excited to see this being brought forward. A couple things that I noticed was around the use of facilities for pickleball courts. So I know we have a lot opportunity, maybe in some of our parking garages. And I know Jill and I have talked about we've seen like Roof top pop ups where they have entertainment come in with deejays. My questions are around ada, compliance and bathroom facilities and an insurance coverage. And I'm sure that will be brought back to us. But those are like 3 things that just come up today. Want to make sure we protect the people that are trying to start their businesses, but the city as well. So anything we can do around that. And I know there's a lot of areas in the downtown that have 2 story buildings. But the second stories not used at all. And so that's probably a step

further than what we're looking at on this particular thing. But I think anything we can do to help the owners of those buildings to see what we can do on that. Second story for the use of the full building in the downtown area would be really beneficial. Thank you for bringing this to us is really great. Thanks. >> And there any additional questions from council and seeing MADAM For the clerk, me, please facilitate public comment on this item. We are now taking public comment on item. 4.2, if you are in the chamber and would like to comment but have not yet provided a speaker card. Please make your way to the podium. You will have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will or at the end of that period. Mayor there is no and approaching the podium for 4.2. Thank you very much, Brianna. Back to council for any final comments and we'll start with Councilmember Crappie. Thank you, MADAM Mayor >> well, for all of the expiration of pop ups and that entire concept. The one thing I want go to was the and are you under utilized public properties I when you're looking at something like courthouse square, it is used to its fullest extent. During the Rose Parade or center is a marathon or the winds at a market. >> But if you go on an average Tuesday at. 3.41, there's not a lot of use of it right now. I'd like to make it more friendly to families so that there's if you're going eat at a restaurant downtown or go shopping, you can come back and enjoy your time period there. I think there's a lot of room I I also understand that the mythical return of the Acela found is still out there. And there's space. It's gonna be taken up by that. But

I do believe that there is an opportunity for even a small play structure to make it more family friendly. And you know, yeah, I think you see that at that we need to have a full community or neighborhood park types structure with something small for for families to enjoy people, young kids, especially since as as I'm as familiar with Councilmember Rogers are House members Fleming's district there's a lot of families within walking distance to that area. And I'm not sure how many public amenities there are in terms of of play structures for for children, not many. My colleague says so. I think that's something that we could we could look into. That would be a minor investment with a greater return. Vice Mayor King about that point. We talked a lot about food during the earlier early part the presentation. >> But point talking about play structures, talking about the wraparound. I'm glad you had the image there. Jail of rain or snow tele that lot that we all see how much is begging for some kind of wrap around that fence? If not, if not, I, you know, some are going to use their. So thank you for that. And then on concluding with her a note, I just want to mention that I love the strong towns team and it's going to be continuing to recent presentations started by Dan. I'm assuming that was somewhere behind the idea of the pop ups. Please keep that comment. This is this is innovative. It's cheap. It's fast. It's everything the city should be looking at right now. So thank you for the great idea. >> Councilmember Fleming. Thank you. I'm in support of your proposal. I want talk bit about the public open spaces. Well, I think that we can all

wrap our minds around pop-up center. So, you know, fashion pop-up, serve food, pop ups, especially food, pop ups. Are the things about? Public spaces is we do need to have them be more active and more free frequently, active. I think that one of the things that I consistently hear from constituents who e-mail me is frustration over a lack of access to recreation. People do want more pickleball. They do want more activities. I would caution us against putting something permanent on courthouse square just because it does. It is. It's great playing slate, but we could do things like have pop ups, a Frisbee, golf or or temporary structures for people to play honor or something like you see the Presidio tunnels with large things that people roll around and play with that they can be moved out of the way. So so I'm in support of any kind of way to help people recreate. I will just say that I am interested for multiple reasons. I think this pilot program checks many boxes >> and so I'm happy to see the development of it. I Like to see possibly in the future after we have implemented this pilot program and maybe go into something more permanent. Where we entice or maybe where it's not optional. For some of the empty storefronts so they don't stay empty because there are a lot of risk with safety, vandalism. And I mean, the list goes on when we have empty storefronts for a prolonged period of time. So that will the additional.

Interests that I have in a program like this. All right. So with that, thank you so much for the presentation. We're excited to see what you guys do with >> And it is 3.45, which means it is too early for us to start our regularly scheduled meeting which starts at 04:00pm. So we will take a break and we will be back at 04:00pm. Thank you so much. >> told a twenty-twenty for Santa Rosa City Council meeting. It is now 04:00pm in. We will be starting our meeting. >> asking everyone in the back of the room. We will now be starting our meeting. Thank you so much. Seeing a Corum Adam City clerk. Can you please call the roll? Thank you. Councilmember Rogers Councilmember Okrepkie here, Councilmember MacDonald Councilmember Fleming there, Councilmember Alvarez here. Vice mayor stop here. Mayor Rogers. Present at the record show all council members are present. Moving on to item. >> 6 report on our air. >> Steady in closed session. Biden's MADAM City Attorney. >> Thank you, MADAM There was one closed session items are heard today. The others were continued to OCTOBER 22nd item. 3.4 was heard and there is no reportable action taken in that closed session. We did have to close 2 study session items that were completed just before the break. And both of the items listed on the agenda. That is the end of my report. >> Thank you very MADAM City

clerk, a new police facility. Public comment on these items. Thank you. We are now taking public comment on item 6. If you're in the council chamber and would like to comment but have not yet provided a speaker card. Please make your way to the podium. You have 3 minutes counting. Countdown timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for public record. If you choose to do so. See no one approached the podiums for item 6. Thank you very much. Moving on to item 7. We have some 0.1 7.2 or proclamations for this afternoon. >> I have the privilege of reading our first proclamation, which is domestic Violence Awareness Month. >> Whereas the city of Santa Rosa recognizes that domestic violence affects one in 4 families and our local community. And that nearly all of us know someone who has been abused the crime of domestic violence violates an individual's privacy, dignity and security based on the systemic abuse of emotional, physical, sexual, psychological and economic control abuse. And whereas established in 1976, ywca, Sonoma County is our community singular in vital resource for local residents experiencing violence in the place. We should all, bill, the most safe inside our own homes. Ywca operate. Sonoma County's only confidential safe house shelter. And Sonoma counties. Only 24 7 domestic violence

crisis hotline ywca is counseling, support services offers trauma, informed individual and support group therapy for victims of trauma in domestic violence, including the students that ywca therapeutic. Preschool serving one of our most vulnerable populations, children's ages, 3 through 5 years old and whereas only an informed community effort in the cycle of violence for local family members of our communities are encouraged to participate in ywca. Scheduled events and programs to raise much needed funding to support their vision for every family in Sonoma County to live healthy, productive lives. And be safe in their own homes. Therefore it to resolve that I Natalie Rogers, mayor of the city of Santa Rosa on behalf of the entire city council do hereby proclaim OCTOBER 2024. In Santa Rosa as domestic Violence Awareness Month. And I would just say, as I always to say, >> that domestic violence does not have face. >> It does not have a class. Does not have a race. The it can affect everyone. And I am a domestic violence survivor. So this means a lot to me that you guys continue to provide the services that you do in our community. So with that. If you can, please speak to the proclamation. And then MADAM City clerk, if you can facilitate public comment

after. Thank you. Absolutely. Good afternoon, everyone. And the honorable mayor. When folks share information like you have just done with us, we take a moment. >> And we honor your bravery and we appreciate you sharing that with all of us. So thank you. Behalf of the ywca, Sonoma County. My name is Madeline Keegan o'Connell. I'm proud to be the chief executive officer. Of ywca. I'm joined here today by members of my team. And I just want them to be recognized to give a little wave or shout out there. Also along with us Chief Cregan from Santa Rosa Police Department and members of his team. So thank you all so very much for being here. Safety planning and strategies to ensure relief are at the forefront of every call. We receive. And on average ywca, Sonoma County receives over 3,000 calls a year from individuals in need of trauma informed community-focused services. It is domestic violence Awareness Month and we're so grateful that you give us the opportunity to share our calendar of events one week from tonight of wonderful restaurant here in Santa Rosa. Home run pizzas, doing little fundraiser for U.S.. Funding is crucial to our ability to serve this community. And we're also having a fun run walk. It's our 4th annual. I know that you have attended in years past and we welcome you back. It will be at Spring Lake Park in Santa Rosa and Fleet Feet. Sports on 3rd Street is our primary sponsor as well as the county of Sonoma. So thanks again. We've been here since

1976. And we will be here as long as this community needs us. Thank you. Thank you. We are. >> now taking public comment on item. 7.1. If you are in council chamber room like to comment but have not provided a speaker card or your name, please make your way to the podium. You have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will or at the end of that period as you approach the podium, please state your name for public record. If you choose to do so. Mayor mc no one approached the podiums for public comment on this item. Do want to invite all this death and those that are accepting the proclamation down to take a picture with the council. But I will say to the staff, thank you very much because it's your faces. >> That allow people to be brave and actually come out and ask for Some people come one time and then they won't come again. But it's because of what you do. That allows the doors to be open for people to continue to come to be brave and to stay away from the people that are violating them. So thank you so much. And if you guys want to come on down and take a picture with the council, we would be honored. All right. Moving on to item the 7.2, which is our second proclamation for this afternoon. Will be read by their own vice mayor staff. >> Thank you very much, MADAM Mayor, and thank you for so many of you who showed up today. It's great. Such a turnout from center is a water. This is a this is a real pleasure. And do we understand correctly? That's it said Jennifer's birthday today. And that's why she's

not here. We Friday, but she's just celebrated a now we could to celebrate here together. But hope you're having fun. All right. Here we Whereas water is Santa Rosa's, most valuable resource. And without it, our community economy and environment could not thrive. And whereas we are extremely proud of the role Santa Rosa water plays in delivering reliable water and sewer service capture storm water to prevent flooding protecting our watershed and the environment. And whereas thanks to our highly skilled team of water experts, we are ensuring a reliable and resilient water water future for our community. And whereas our communities drinking water is regularly tested to ensure it means all drinking water standards. And whereas Santa Rosa Water operates and maintains over 1200 miles of water and sewer pipes. And whereas our team operates the Laguna treatment plant that recycles millions of gallons of wastewater daily and is nationally recognized for beneficial or using nearly recycled water annually. And whereas Santa Rosa Water maintains 340 miles of storm drains and care for 100 miles freaks. And whereas Santa Rosa's water professionals work. 24 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days. A year to monitor, maintain and modernize our community's water and sewer systems. And whereas Santa Rosa Water invest 166 million dollars annually to improve the resiliency Republic systems. And whereas the more than 275 Santa Rosa, water professionals are dedicated to protecting our community's future. Now, therefore be it MAY be resolved. The Natalie Rogers, mayor of the city of Santa Rosa on behalf of the entire city council, declares OCTOBER 5, 5th through the

13th as water Professionals Appreciation Week and extends its sincere gratitude to our Santa Rosa Water professionals. Thank you. >> For you here to accept the proclamation I am. All right. You like to make a comment? Absolutely. Thank you. >> Good afternoon. Mayor Rogers and council members. I'm Nick Harvey, deputy director of Administration for Center is a water on behalf of our director Jennifer Burke and the entire center is a water team honored to accept this proclamation for California water Professionals Appreciation Week. Our team of nearly 300 water professionals work every day to protect center is water future by ensuring the delivery of safe and reliable drinking water treating and beneficially reusing 6 billion gallons of recycled water annually by the Laguna treatment plant. Investing in maintaining our water infrastructure, infrastructure while also protecting our water resources and the environment. Throughout the week centers, water will be recognizing our team members and thanking them for their talents, dependability and resilience and ensuring the 24 7, 3.65, senator is the water is always on. This proclamation is a long way and not only recognizing the efforts of Santa Rosa water, all water professionals in the critical jobs they perform for our communities. Thank you again, the council for recognizing these efforts and many thanks to all our center is a water professionals and water professionals across California for the important work that they do. Thank you. >> City clerk me please facilitate public comment this item. Thank you, Mayor. We are now taking public comment on item 7.2, if you are in council chamber and would like to comment but have not provided a speaker card or your name, please make your

way to the podium. You have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will other at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do so. An approach. The podium for public comment on 7.2. Thank you. I want this picture and I'm deep in thought about how to do it because normally we would ask you guys to stay there. >> But then I'm thinking about Councilmember Fleming how she's going to make it up there to you guys. >> No, no, no. >> So can the can the back row kind of file into the? >> First to Rome's so we can make this work. Thank you guys so much. You're so awesome. Please don't carry her. That's a liability. And then some of us can go there with you, Nic, if you if you need space, I mean space holders. >> moving on to was sure staff briefings today. MADAM City manager. I am a 0. One is the community empowerment Plan. Update. >> Good afternoon. Mayor Vice mayor and city Council community engagement manager with communications and intergovernmental Relations Office. And I would be presenting the community Empowerment Plan update. From OCTOBER 6 to OCTOBER 12, the center Alyssa Fire Department will be attending a series of 82 k shuttle school assemblies throughout different schools in Santa Rosa to expand in National Fire Prevention Week on OCTOBER 10th. Violence Prevention partnership that would be hosting annual Violence Prevention seminar that feeling community center to see, you know, West College Avenue from 08:00am to

04:30pm. These event will feature a keynote address by elder at Jackson and 3rd executive director Inside Circle with climate updates from Senator Wilson Police Department and Violence Prevention partnership stuff. Planet of individuals will leave with a experience and seeks breakout sessions in the afternoon will be hosted. On OCTOBER 15. The Santa Rosa Police Department will host faith and Blue event at Centerville, Sir Bible Church. 4, 5, 7, 5, Road from 4.30, to 06:30pm. All states relation and leaves are welcome. On OCTOBER 19th. The violence Prevention partnership will bring the mine too to Sonoma County Museo Block Party celebrate Dia los Muertos and Sonoma County. Low riders at Sonoma County. New season 4, 2, 5, 7 street from 12:00pm to 04:00pm. On OCTOBER 20 friend of from Four-thirty to 07:30pm. The Santa Rosa Police Department will be hosting trunk or treat celebration unknown with violence Nation partnership. Senator Ellis of Fire Department and the community partners at the center of rules that veteran Memorial building, the strength to event provides a safe space for tree can or treat from trunks. Senator was a police department vehicles. Costumes are encouraged, but not necessarily. On OCTOBER. 26 from 4 to 06:30pm, Violence Prevention Partnership. A neighborhood services will be co-hosting annual Halloween bash in Trunk or treat. Only community center to see no West College Avenue. The senators, the fire department will also be in attendance. The Halloween bash is one of

Inc in a series of events percent did for residents living within the city to priority neighborhoods which have been identified to be at high risk of youth violence and gun activity. Families can enjoy a trunk or treat. Art craft, food and games, photos, prices and more. The event free. However, pre-registration is required. A Centerville says cd don't or slashed neighborhood Services. Also in OCTOBER, 26 from 11:30am, to 02:00pm. The senators have filed department will bring the engine company to Halloween at how how with seeks to be Summer feel wrote and that concludes the community empowerment planned for up to Thank you. Thank you very much bringing it back to council to see if there's any question. >> seeing none. MADAM City clerk, can you please facilitate public comment on this item? Thank you. We are now taking public comment on item 8.1. If you are in council chamber and would like to comment but have not yet provided a speaker card or your name, please make your way to the podium. You have 3 minutes and a countdown. Timer will alert at the end of that period. >> As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do so. An approach. The podium for a 0. One. Thank you very much for the presentation. Item, 9 city manager and city attorneys handed over time. MADAM City manager. >> Thank you. So I have an update on or active transportation plan. So the city has released an online interactive map outlining a proposed bicycle and

pedestrian projects. The city is considering for adoption in the active transportation plan. So we're asking residents to review the interactive map share their thoughts on the proposed projects and provide any additional active transportation projects for consideration. Residents MAY also provide feedback by attending an in-person pop-up event. One is tonight from 6 to 8 a tote a food park. And there is another one Thursday, OCTOBER, the 10 from 4 to 6 at the Santa Rosa Junior College Green Living Fair, which is located in the quad. And I am guessing that people know what the quiet it is. Residents MAY also participate in our virtual workshop. OCTOBER, the 15th. Individuals can go to our interactive map and find the event's located it s our city Dot org slash a teepee. Again, that is as our city Dot org a teepee and the interactive survey will be open until OCTOBER. The 26, thank you. >> MADAM City, Attorney. Thank you, MADAM Mayor, I have no further report this evening. Thank you. MADAM City Clerk, can you please facilitate public comment on this item? Thank you. Mary are now taking public comment on item 9. If you are in the council chamber room would like to comment but have not yet provided a speaker card or your name. Please make your way to the podium. >> You'll have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do

so. An approach. The podium for item 9. Thank you. We will now move on to item teen statements of abstention by council members. Are there any extensions that need to be made? >> And I will start. 2 to having renproperty that is within the city Limits. Council >> Thank you, MADAM Mayor. I will also be recusing myself from 13.2 because they do have rental property within the city limits. >> COUNCILMAN, for me. I will also be or he's even might 13 point to do having a rental property within city limits. >> Thank you very We will MADAM City clerk me up. So take public comment on that item. We are now taking public comments on item 10 statements of abstention. If you would like to provide public comment on statements of abstention, please make your way to the podium. You have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do so. The first speaker we'll be at the West Lectern. Please go ahead. >> Hello, my name is Eric Frazier. I'm an activist here in New York. Nicer in Santa Rosa. I would say on the statement of stations specially with issues where there's a line of demarcation between long-term rentals in short-term rentals. But the reason the true reason for the abstention include whether it's a short-term rental or a long-term rental or a hybrid. I think that would only be fair, especially you know

that, you know, short-term rentals are like the whipping boy for everything regulatory early speaking so that was a tremendous number of conflicts on the regulations related to measure the. And so we're also noticing that there's just a tremendous number of untruths and things like that that are coming forward from the city in support of their campaign. So this is sort of where it all begins. Is accountability. And so thank >> see no one else approach the podium for public comment on this item. Thank you. We will now move on to item 11, which are council member in the years reports. There any council members, the council member MacDonald? Thank you, Just have a couple little things to report on. First, I'd like to make a goes to bring back the senior part, transfer taxes so proper time to do that. And does it need a motion, I guess and. >> Thank you. Let's start with that. To make the motion. Was it really most likely. Thank you. The new rules on this item just require a second. And then the item goes on the next council meeting. And at that point in time, you'll decide by motion weather too. >> Put it on a future agenda. You do have a multi step process for the situation. >> Great. Thank you for the clarification. I apologize for the delay and then I just want to mention that on OCTOBER 9th is walk and roll to school day and has our pd has put out some information around that happening in our communities. But I want to let our community members know that they'll be lots of children, hopefully walking and riding their bikes to school on OCTOBER 9th. But then just to be aware around our schools,

we're really trying to encourage children and families to walk, ride their bikes to school. So please be cautious of that. Coming up. And I want to congratulate the violence Prevention partnership team. This is another sold out event Thursday that's happening. And so I'm really looking forward to attending that summit are. >> Thank you. Councilmember Rogers. >> We had an open government Task Force meeting subcommittee meeting last week where we had a presentation on an update of the implementation that ordinance and just want to. Think the city clerk, her team and everybody who's been involved in that implementation. That video is available online for folks who are unable to make the meeting. But want to see sort of where we stand with the number of those recommendations. We also had last week, our Economic Development subcommittee meeting. I was going to introduce our new director and welcome him. But he had a chance to present to us about an hour ago. I just really looking forward to working with them. And then last now not doing big on some of the off here acknowledging the Tubbs fire. But I did want to acknowledge from the dais that it's the 7 year anniversary of the Tubbs Fire and just want to thank all of our staff who work so hard to make sure that people can come home. And if folks are still struggling to get back, just know that the city is still working hard. And here to help to make sure that anybody who wants to come home after the Tubbs Fire has the opportunity to. >> Vice Mayor step. >> Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to highlight a few community events that the city's been involved in recently starting with NOVEMBER. 26% excuse me, SEPTEMBER 26th, when the city had a table at Los cnn's annual state Latino community. >> The mayor and 9, the city

manager council member Okrepkie and several members of the city staff attended. >> It was a packed ballroom in Sonoma State with about 600 Excellent information presented on SEPTEMBER 27th Jeff it's our deputy director reprot. Their did a great presentation at the zones. Open house and fundraiser. His own says is a nonprofit located right next to Montgomery High School, providing education and social enrichment to use particularly middle school and high school age youth. As you can manage, you can imagine how how useful their services are right there next to Montgomery. And in SEPTEMBER 20th, the foresees ran an early child care and education summit for elected officials. That was that was well attended, focusing on issues around childcare in the county and the and early education issues with and several action items developed for Santa Rosa, specifically in that summit. And then finally on OCTOBER 5th, there was a No on j. No on Measure j gathering in Courthouse Square as there's a report in the press, Democrat and it was a it was a really energized morning with the courthouse square, surrounded by tractors and other other kinds of farm equipment. All in support of the No on j Movement, which which means so much to our county, protecting our local ag. That's it for me. Thank you, Mayor. >> Councilmember Fleming. Thank you, Mayor. I was going to give an update on the atp, but our city manager swooped us sued in on that. So thank you. City manager Smith. I also have something from the Institute of Transportation Engineers for Pedestrian safety month. If that's not a mouthful, they highlighted Santa Rosa's Steele Lane

Project, which is notably on Steel lane near the 101. And I'll just read their blur. The city of Santa Rosa conducted its for school safety pilot project in spring of 2024. In front of stealing elementary school, a safe routes to school proposal. The pilot allowed the city staff to review how bus bicycle and pedestrian space in front of the school, maybe more appropriately used. Elaine is a significant vehicle there over and as one quarter mile from 101 interchange, the pilot project to remove westbound lane travel lane and reassigned it as a drop-off pick-up zone. Initial observations included of 4% decrease in speeds outside of the school drop-off pick-up and a 14% decrease in speeds during school drop-off and pick-up. Additionally traffic signal timing was refined to reduce Hughes and support increased pedestrian crossings here, according potential near-MISS Collisions that were avoided with insulation following the initial pilot. Phase 2 removes and eastbound travel lane ads too way left, turn lanes and has a projected westbound by cleaning creates a permanent loading zone. Further separating students from moving traffic should face to be a successful. It will remain a permanent solution, permanent installation and beat redefined tuned for additional elements. And the reason why highlight this is because this particular interchange portion of Road has been a real challenge for for families and also for people biking or walking around the area until

we get our Jennings over across or bike not are getting see bike and pedestrian over cross. We have to have ways that are safe for people to get around East to West Santa Rosa. That particular place. I want to thank staff for really creative solution to helping us achieved part of our goal. >> there any additional? >> So all saying SEPTEMBER 29th I was able to attend. This is our city in Courthouse Square, which was a wonderful event. >> Also on the 5th of OCTOBER, I attended the will welfare league 85th anniversary celebration. I'm so again saying welfare. I'm sorry. And 85th anniversary celebration in that was wonderful to know all the. So if I was saying it's really nice to be on council and attend events and know all of and the things that different organizations are doing and how they're contributing to our community. So it was really nice to see one how they raise money at the thrift shop down in Railroad Square, but also where all that money goes to and the different organizations that they support. So that was very nice. And I do not have the date. But I will say that there was a board commission committee recruitment workshop here in the in the chamber. And I want to thank all the participants that came to just find out a little bit more about what we do and what the role would be if they decided to volunteer, but also to thank our city clerk's office and for doing that because it

is important that we take the information out into the community. So city clerk's office, I know that you've been doing a really good job getting out there and making sure that people know exactly what it means to volunteer. What does that look like and what will be expected of them. So thank you very much. For doing that. It makes our jobs a lot easier to appoint people. We people to look at to appoint. So thank you. And with that, MADAM City clerk, me, please facilitate public comment. Thank you. We are now taking public comment on item 11. If you are in the chamber and would like to provide comment but have not yet provided a speaker card or your name, please make your way to the podium. >> You'll have 3 minutes and a countdown. Timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do so. >> Please go ahead. Thank you very much. My name's their frayser community activist. About the Open government task force or isn't actually the opaque government task force since its inception 10 years ago. What we see that's just a laundry list of problems with open government. If it wasn't for state laws, we would be screwed. Not only abuses with public records where public records have been manipulated. So the point where they're practically retrieval ball, but yet having said that and also celebrating our knowledge in the 7th anniversary of the Tubbs Fire. If it wasn't for public records, I wouldn't have been able to find out the extent that lodging that some people's houses listed on the short-term rental platforms was activated for people that work burned out of their

homes. And first responders. That information doesn't come forward from the city because it's not in their interest. It's only in public records to actually learn the extent of the corruption. What's going on the city with spending. As I said, the list is long at the opening at the opaque government task force. We got into this a back and forth a little bit about manager is selected. We know from our research the last 2 city managers came in with the pre-selected agenda. We wonder why that is and we try to follow the money and then we uncover things that are just not really good for city over the term. We do try to turn those into the appropriate investigative authorities. And we'll continue to do that because the need is severe. I'm telling you they they claim it's open government, but it's not. It's summer Ige. It's just it's, you know what we uncovered also is that the city over those past 10 years has invested in a propaganda office. This is a huge expense to the city. Why did they do that? Well, it's because I have a particular point of view that they want to press forward with. It's not about neutrality. It's not about fact finding it's not about being open and transparent with the people that they they lord over are the money that they spawned. We're seeing whether people actually live in the city when they served on council or commissions or boards. We see conflicts of interest left and right, including from the city attorney's office who has business interests in the cannabis industry. But then. But exclude or saw from discussions on Measure e e written all over the place is

just a myriad of conflicts that pushing us down the road to bankruptcy. It's the misspending mean it's the cover ups. It's the lack of access of true good faith dealing with the electorate. >> Thank you, mayor not sure if this person is walking up to make a came. There is no one else approaching the podium for public comment on this item. Thank you. Moving on to item told the approval of minutes we have one set of minutes SEPTEMBER 24 2024. >> Counselor there corrections to the minutes. Seen none. MADAM Continue. Please wasn't a public comment on item. 12 point. You bet we are now taking public comment on item? 12.1. If you're in council chamber room would like to provide comment but have not yet provided a speaker card or your name. Please make your way to a podium that you will have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will alert at the end of that period. >> and approaching the podiums for public comment on item. 12.1. >> Thank you. We will adopt a tough 0. One has presented with no amendments. Moving on to item 13, our consent items for evening. The MADAM City clerk. Can you please read the consent Actually? Can you do 13.1 and then we'll excuse ourselves for Thank Yes, we are now taking public comment on item 13.1 part me. >> 13.1 ordinance adoptions. Second reading ordinance of the Council of the City of Santa Rosa presenting property situated on Barbara Drive Robin Way, Eddie Drive Moreland Avenue and Belleview

Avenue into the r Dash. One dash 6 single family residential and r Dash. 2 medium density multi-family, residential zoning district consistent with the low and medium low density residential general plan land use designations file in acts. 2, 3, Dash, 0, 0, 3, mayor in funding. Yes, You have 2 items on your consent calendar. It is. >> Not required as long as both of those items remain on consent and don't get pulled off for those with conflicts to leave the room and it's an exception to the rule that when you have a conflict that you need leave the room leave the diocese. So as long as they stand consent, you can stay seated, which I think is probably a very good news for Councilmember Fleming this evening. 3, 13.2 were to be pulled off consent. Then we would need to ask all of all of you to leave the room. So it is also the practice of this council to take 2 motions. One motion for the item where there all the items where there are no conflicts in this case. Just 13.1 and then take a separate motion for 13.2. And those of you have recused would obviously be recused from 13.2. >> Bringing it back to council. Are there any questions on No questions on 13.1. Not city clerk. Me please consult a public comment on Thank you, mayor. We're now taking public comments on 13.1. If you are in the council chamber and would like to comment but have not yet provided a speaker card or your name, please make

your way to the podium. >> You'll have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do so. >> Thank you very much. Go ahead, ok, thank you very for item. 13.1. This 13.1. I'm sorry. Okay. Mary c no public comments for item. 13.1. >> Thank you very much. And with that placement, Todd, can you please make a motion? >> I move item 13.1 for the reading the text second. >> have a motion made by Vice mayor step in a second by Councilmember Rogers, city clerk. Me, please facilitate the move. Thank you. In a moment. >> Councilmember Rogers, I Crappie, I Councilmember MacDonald. I Councilmember Fleming. I Councilmember Alvarez item by smear step. Ty Mayor Rogers, let the record show that item 13 point pack one passes unanimously. >> Thank I would move on to item 13.2 minutes. The clerk. I think the motion. We need to take public comment on item. 13.2 corrections. >> Yes, first, I'm going to read the title of the ordinance and then we'll move to public Hear >> Your direction. Perfect. All right. Item 13.2 ordinance adoption. Second reading subject to board approval ordinance of the city of Santa Rosa. Amending chapter 6 Dash o for the center city code entitled General Business Tax to increase the maximum tax to 10,000 annually. Just tax rates and tax short-term rental businesses. This item was continued from the AUGUST 20th 20 20th 2024 and SEPTEMBER 24th 2024 regular meetings. MADAM City clerk should we run a public comment? >> Thank you. We are now

taking public comment on item 13.2, if you're in the chamber like to comment but have not yet provided a speaker card or your name. Please make your way to the podium. You'll have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do so. Please go ahead. >> Thank you very much, Eric Frazier. Again, I hope you like my voice. Sorry about that in this capacity, though. I'm speaking as the chair on enough. As you know, the item now on the consent calendar is the precursor to Measure e e e. And so I've been able to get into that. I've been able to analyze it. And like I said, there's conflicts already and how this decision came to the ballot. But it's not just that it is the misinformation that the city doesn't hesitate to use their hiding a funding. They have a shadow campaign that they've established and house an app's number, but it appears to be funded by the city in violation of state law. Their claims are bogus, quite frankly. The truth is with what they brought to the ballot will severely penalize small businesses for each dollars, small business earns a larger business pay just a fraction of that and tax backroom deal. You bat if it wasn't for state law that allows for public records, we will learn the extent of the backroom dealing that one on once the response of documents are tallied, I'm sure we'll find just a few dozen of the usual players. Certainly not a community mandate. You say

don't be misguided, but that's what you're doing. That's what you do. For the life of me. I really don't understand that you don't have an economist in the city. The attorney makes economic claims that cannot be substantiated. This would make our area one of the most expensive. It's almost laughable that study session earlier today, you have the audacity to come forward with some sort of new things to spend money on that. You've already spent tens of thousands of dollars on just conceiving at and it's not hurt second much at all. In sales tax revenue. It's just half bait thinking you guys don't understand businesses. You don't understand small businesses and you carry on like your spending and your it is going to save us all. We're on a path to bankruptcy, sir. The finance director came to the table and said, look at we have a structural deficit for several years now running. We need 40 million quick. What happened? The people in front of you using backroom deals. Whittled it down to just a couple million dollars on the shoulders of small businesses. And then you come back and say, oh, we'll we'll let you pop up here. What are the small businesses here? Mushrooms? Quite frankly, again, working tirelessly the grassroots effort. It's a David versus Goliath effort. Somebody has to stand in the way of spending run amok. The lack of ethics and transparency in government dealings. Thank you for your time for Thank you, Mary. See no one else approaching the

Putin's for public comment. >> Vice mayor pardon me? Thank you. Do we have a motion? >> We have motion by COUNCILMAN Rogers in a second by Councilmember Donald MADAM City clerk ready take the vote. >> Thank you. Vice Mayor. Councilmember Rogers High Councilmember Okrepkie. I. Councilmember MacDonald. I council member, I mean, is recused. Councilmember Alvarez is recused. Vice Mayor step. I. And Mayor Rogers is recused. Let the record show this for from to votes with council members. Alvarez Fleming and Mary Rogers recusing. Thank you very much. Moving on to item 14, which we cannot take right now because it is not 5 o'clock. So we will come back to that. >> We have no report items on agenda item 16, our public hearing. We also cannot take that because it is not 5 o'clock are written communication we do have written communications attached to the agenda. MADAM City Clerk, can you please conduct public comment? Thank you. We are now taking public comment on item 17.1. If you're in the council chamber and would like to comment but have not provided a speaker card or your name, please make your way to the podium. You will have 3 minutes in a countdown. Timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do

so. Mary c know and approaching the podiums for item. 17.1. Thank you very Look around colleagues I say this because I believe we need to take a 10 minute break could until we can take the other items until 5 o'clock. So we'll be back in 5. Thank you. >> The car, MADAM City you please call the roll. Thank you. Councilmember Rogers, you're councilmember Crappie Councilmember MacDonald here, Councilmember Fleming Air Councilmember Alvarez that vice mayor step here. Mayor Rogers PRESIDENT, let the record show all council members are present. Thank you. We will now go to Our first public hearing and only public hearing of MADAM City manager. >> Item 16.1 is a public hearing. General plan amendment to noise and safety element. >> Good evening. Mayor Rogers and members of the Council. My name is Amy Nicholson. I'm the supervising planner for Advanced Planning and I have Neal Bregman with me this evening to answer questions about this item. So this is a general plan amendment to the noise and safety element. This amendment proposes very minor change to the existing noise and safety element of the city's current general plan. This plan has been in place since 2009. And this element being amended is one of 8 state mandated elements in the city's general plan. There is

a state assembly bill which allows California jurisdictions to be eligible for additional cost share. If a local hazard mitigation plan is incorporated by reference in the city's noise and safety element. And the city's local hazard mitigation plan was adopted by the council in DECEMBER of 2021. The slide here shows the very minor amendments to the existing noise and safety element in red line. It includes just in the background reference to the 2021 local Hazard mitigation plan and then also amends and existing policy which references the local hazard mitigation plan by reference and includes links to both volume one and volume 2. If someone visits element by the Web. As you know, the city is currently updating its general plan. And so this language that is proposed to change before you this evening is also included in the draft 2050 general plan Element. The zoning code requires that for specific findings are made in order for the council to approve a general plan amendment. And those findings are included on the draft resolution before you. This general plan amendment has been reviewed consistent with the requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act and is within the scope of environmental Impact Report, which was previously certified by the Council and NOVEMBER of 2009 and therefore no additional environmental review is required. So it is with that the planning Commission and the planning

and Economic Development Department. Recommend that the council by resolution approved a general plan amendment to amend the general plan 2035 noise and safety element to incorporate the city's local hazard mitigation plan. And we are happy to answer any questions. Thank you. >> Thank you very And looking to council to see if there any question All right, seeing none. We will now open the public hearing. MADAM City Clerk me, please facilitate public comment. Thank you, Mayor. We are now taking public comment on item 16.1. If you are in the chamber and would like to comment but have not yet provided a speaker card. >> Please make your way to the podium. You will have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do so. I see no and approaching the podium for item. 16.1. >> Thank you. We will now close the public hearing and bring it back to council to see if there any final comments seeing none Councilmember Alvarez me please make a motion. >> Thank you, MADAM Mayor. Like to put Force resolution. The council, the city Santa Rosa. Proving a general plan amendment to amend the general plan 2035. Noise and safety element of the general plan to incorporate the city's local hazard mitigation plan. File number gp am to 4 seals are one. And we further reading of the text second. >> I have a motion made by Councilmember Alvarez in a second by vice mayor's staff. And with that MADAM City clerk, can you please call the vote? Councilmember Rogers, I Councilmember Okrepkie I

Councilmember MacDonald. I councilmember Fleming. I Councilmember Alvarez. I vice mayor stopped by Mayor Rogers. I let the record show this passes unanimously. >> Thank you very much. Now go back up to item 14, which is our public comment on non agenda matters. I would like to make the public aware that this will be the only opportunity that they will have tonight to make a public comment on non agenda matters. And with that all pass it over to City clerk to facilitate public comment. Thank you, mayor. As mayor stated, this is a public comments on non agenda matters. You can speak on anything that is within the subject matter jurisdiction within the council. This is not agenda matters that what you're still within the subject matter jurisdiction of the city Council. And if you're in the chamber would like to comment but have not yet provided a speaker card or your name. Please make your way to podium. You have 3 minutes and a countdown timer will alert at the end of that period. As you approach the podium, please state your name for the record. If you choose to do so. The first speaker will be Kathy then Tony. And followed by Robert. Kathy. Okay, please go ahead. And please make sure you get close to the mic so we can make sure we hear you down here. Thank you. Can hear me >> I am here to talk about the pot holes that are on all the Rive. I mean, I know they're all citywide and they're everywhere. But been in this position for well. I would say at least a month and a half ago, I finally got a pothole

repair that was in front of. My house and my granddaughter was riding her motorcycle and hit that pothole. Normals down. So the city was out the next day to fix it. However, I did. Is this going to show? I don't know how to make this picture show. There it is. Okay. So this is another pothole that is that one. 22 Adobe Drive. And I started calling on this about 3 weeks ago as well as when I first called to have the first part home for my house. I said there was another one in front of one. 22 and they never fixed it. And lo and behold this morning, they were out and fixed a number of field, a number of potholes that I've complained about. And I have here in my folder 40 pictures of potholes and bad streets. Or bad parts of the street. For instance, this is what most of the street looks like between 101, and one. 44 Alder Brent pry. And I know we have been in the failed state with the city for years and years and years and it's part whole feel after pothole feel after pothole feel and it's it's dangerous they did feel most of the big ones this morning. I believe it was but I don't know what the answer is and how to get the potholes filled more. I would be happy to drive around in, take pictures of them and what the addresses and send him an online if that would help facilitate get some of these potholes done. My neighbor 200, all their book drive had sent pictures ended.

It online had called to no avail. And I finally got honoring told them. I said this is an accident waiting to happen. There's a lot of motorcycle riders that ride up and down all brick because it's a thorough way. People don't want to go to farmers Lane. So if they want to make a left onto 4 street come up all wreck. So it's well traveled. And I just I don't want any accidents don't want the city to end up getting sued. So I don't know what the answer is. I think instead of making more bike lanes, you need to fix the city streets. First and get the repairs done before you go spending a lot of money on other things. That's the only thing I think of that might prevail. Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it. Thank you. The next speaker, even clear. Sorry Kathy. We don't get into a back and forth. But I will let you know that we're up here taking notes. So we're taking notes that the drives that you're telling us and we will look into it. So thank you very much. And if you want to leave anything, you can. >> Leave it with Jason, right there. Assistant city manager Net. Thank you so much. Thank you. The next speaker will be Tony or days then Robert than Dwyane. >> Good evening. And crime ridden the immediate past PRESIDENT Santa Rosa Kiwanis Club here. And I want to announce to you that to this coming Saturday and Sunday, the want to Saint Rose is

holding its first annual art wine festival live at the courthouse square. This kicks off our one 100th anniversary as a club providing services to community of Santa Rosa our children and families. At this or and wine festival. We have 80 independent artists signed up of different kinds. You serving wine and beer, food and the food trucks. >> Music deejays the Jays are local youth in ethnic groups and will subject children's activities. And the admission is free. Maybe I can show Anyway. So coming up, it's a 10 to 5 of free admission and funds that we generate go to our center with the Kiwanis Foundation, which helps with children's literacy. You've music education in the scholarships. We supported by the city Santa Rosa Small grant. We appreciate very much. Want to thank the council for helping us get started. >> With with this project, hopefully will be great. Festive been wonderful and kind contribute to the downtown environment entertainment and culture. So thank you very much. Appreciate it. Reminded to leave with that with the council love clerk. You're so for you. Thank you. >> Thank you. The next speaker will be. Robert followed by Dwayne Than Edina. Robert, are you in the room? Okay. We'll move on to >> see. Sorry for the adjustments that are necessary. >> Hello, my name is Dwayne to

from Roseland. What I've put on the overhead is an aerial photograph of Burbank Avenue between McMahon Avenue and it's from 2007 put together by the Sonoma County agricultural preservation of open space district and one showing it to you. Because I want you to see something that's very important that could help the city of Santa Rosa. It's that little square right there. That square. That's gray and this area that's great down here. It's Cinema County water agency land upon Rosalynn Creek. The opportunity to have that organization work with the city of Santa Rosa. Could help you folks to bring in funds from both state and federal agencies. Unfortunately, it hasn't been pursued. One of the dilemmas comes to the kind of silo thinking that happens out there. This is a sheet from the front of Rose and school districts. Environmental Impact report in 2007. Kingdom under themselves. Essentially they look at it like they're above city and county and even state sometimes. But if we could have a collaborative effort out there, get some positive staff such as in 2008 Streamside path was put next to Santa Rosa Creek. And we were told back in 2000 and 9.10 that the reason the city was pushing to have the land bought on the south side of the creek here was because there would be a streamside path. Putin which doesn't require an environmental impact report and could have been put in very quickly and hasn't been done. Not because anybody in the community has

been slowing it up. So I was here last time 2 weeks ago we were talking with you. Press Democrat newspaper put out an article which came out. I'd like to use the overhead again. And didn't cover some of the important information? In that meeting. Councilmember Alvarez pointed out that Como Park and preserve was a name that many people supported in our community. Unfortunately, that wasn't put into the newspaper article. The press Democrat put out there. Was there any recognition of Pomona anyway, though, some spoke here and there was a recognition of veterans who also spoke about a veterans trail idea and wanted to do positive things. >> we're still working on it will never give Think the next speaker will be Edina. Please go ahead. >> Good evening. Council. I am here this evening for staff to say that I really appreciate your staff from years. City all across the board. You're staff does a phenomenal job. I was actually commenting not the city of Petaluma council meeting yesterday and was publicly be rated by the city attorney following my public comments. Actually light on record and I do plan on filing a lawsuit. It was. >> Extremely inappropriate. >> That being said also find the end procreate. But Councilmember Rogers said in his text messages that my wife is side and pathetic. So because we just acknowledge the proclamation for Domestic Violence Awareness Month. I would like to say that that's been the only constant in my life is abuse. I was abused for the first 23 years of my life by my white father. And then I spent the next years of

my life being abused by men and domestic violence and sexual assault situation. So I'm out Saddam, but that I guess I do, too. So to speak to was actually saw him. But that measure id health care initiative for the childcare talks that MISTER Rogers is advocating for and was paid to collect signatures for through Sonoma County conservation option. I didn't realize his mother is the executive director of the Early Learning Institute, also known as Eli, they are partnered with the first 5 who is tasked with administering the fund. So essentially MR. Rogers wants the taxpayers to fund the salary for his mother. And I find that extremely inappropriate. Other text messages were exchanged in which MR. Stop wanted to come up with headlines for my articles for the Open Government Task Force and he said in his rebuttal to my argument against Measure e e and I-5 that I'm a misguided activists. I find it interesting that the Fair Political Practices Commission has requested additional time to investigate you. MISTER. Stop. While you are serving on the Santa Rosa Ground water board, you did not recuse yourself from voting to approve the updated fees for groundwater use while your wife was employed as the council to Jackson family wines. So essentially the rates for homeowners who rely on a well where elevated and the rates for the vineyard owners were drastically reduced and you are not even following the state guidelines. So I would like to know why they needed additional time to investigate those matters. My sole purpose in this community is to bring truth and transparency forward. I am a Christian and

not as 100%. What drives me the PRESIDENT Projects row. Another hit piece on me last week because MISTER Herman Hernandez, the former board PRESIDENT Of the Sonoma County Office of Education, did not disclose his income for the past 10 years and somehow that resulted a hit piece about me for bringing that transparency forward. So many people defended me that the to revise that entire article. So thank you and GOD bless. Thank you, Eric. Please go ahead. >> Yes, thank you, Eric. Frazier and local activists. Hats off to Tina. Florence. Look around online. I know everybody sitting behind the desk does keeping people on toes. And there's a lot of misinformation about how the fppc works. I'm not an expert on it by any means but just because a complaint is kicked back, it doesn't mean that deficiency was infected. In fact, we can look again at the city of Santa Rosa and see the numerous processes. They attempt to facts because of the paucity of the complaints that are received by afp pc. It's an important part the citizen Rees ability to exercise oversight on what's going on. As I said earlier, it's not a pretty sight 2 to win to win it. Certainly he understands like most people do that. Now the press Democrat is just beholden to the city with the creation of the propaganda office. Catch and kill. They The city dictates what information is going to go forward. They folder at. The moneyed interests behind that are absolutely amazing. Again, just as an investigator follow

the money, everybody knows that. Now on to measure at half. And again, if I could have the overhead projector, I have my Volcker voter guide for the county opened here. And this is what we talk about here when the city is just this big, brutal liar and they just lay down c# # # after c# # # . It's just propaganda. Here we look at the rebuttal. Argument against that measure often hear the Mayor states. The number of things, but one of the things really is sort of funny is the assertion of widespread corruption and lack of auditing and tourism programs is unsubstantiated. Well, how much corruption the you pretty we substantially a lot of it will continue to substantiate a lot of it. Are you looking forward to be widespread before you noticed? >> ok, I get it. Follow the money. About the tea ot increase. You just didn't even have the faith effort. >> To actually educate the boating public about the totality of these taxes would be 16%, not 11%. And as you know, that's because of these defective be uh's. Come forward on and on. You continue to hammer on short-term rentals. I know that you spent a lot of money on pursuing your urgency ordinance. Very misguided. You probably spent over a million dollars. Now you're trying to climb back. Now you're trying to get a return on your investment. It's ridiculous. You know that short-term rentals, rd minimum us issue here. If you haven't economists and your staff, you learn that the impact on eve,

for instance, is minimal. I full drive tourists and visitors here. And, you know, most of them are workers and others. Thank you for your time. >> Thank you. I believe there's another speaker wishing to provide public comment. >> Good evening, Jason Sweeney, District 5. I just wanted to check back in with our. Local city council has been a years Israel started its current war on children in the Middle East and land grab. And I just I'm just really kind of blown away by the city council, ignoring us all this time. I brought some to share few have, but I really just wanted to say to people who might be voting in this upcoming election that we really need to choose. City Council members who have empathy and moral integrity because if they don't bring their own personal understanding of their own personal education and experiences to the Dias will. What what's the point of like? Like? Who cares that we have our first black female mayor of City of Santa Rosa. Any, she's a therapist. She's a mother of 8 and she couldn't sign on. A symbolic resolution to stop killing like in That the analogy that stuck with me all this time as we have like 2 kids fighting in the schoolyard. The first thing we do is we pull them apart. We don't stand back in and you to Kate who is right and who was wrong? Who has right beat the other one up because of, you know, history or whatever it whatever your reasoning is, there is no cultural history. There is no cultural reasons. No religious reason. There's no historical reason that sanctions the killing of innocent people. And we don't

we're just not doing that very basic work. And this entire city council was silence on the issue for, you know, the better part of the last year that we've been coming in asking. Part of what's happening is that, you know, you're basically and this is how it works. If they ignore us, we we feel. Like it's pointless to come forward and speaker to come sit through a city council meeting and I have been sitting through city council meetings on zoom and I see how you respond to things that catch your eye or pique your interest that you can score some points I don't I don't know what it is. The little sniping that goes on all those things. We see that online. And I just I I know that you were totally silent when we asked you for something so basic. A symbolic resolution. So I know just so many things I want to talk about, but we're just we're not prioritizing life. We're not prioritizing human lives regardless of ethnicity and all that stuff. This is a racist issue. Like I an issue of racism like I was trying to say to the good mayor recently. And it's just it just blows me away. It's been over a year. And I just you know, c'mon city of Santa Rosa. We need new civic engagement and we need people to step up and put pressure on these people to be actual humans. >> Thank you. Is there anyone else in the chamber which provide public comment on non agenda matters? Seeing no