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>> All right. Good morning. Let's start with roll call MADAM Deputy City Clerk. Thank you, Mary Rogers. Councilmember Alvarez. Was it chair Okrepkie here. Let the record reflect. Also committee members are present with the exception of Mayor Rogers. Thank you very much. We have no remote participation today. No announcement. So we'll get to >> item for approval of minutes. If you have anything. I have >> Public minutes right? >> So a move to public comment on item for the approval of the minutes. If you are in the chambers and like to address us for 3 minutes, this is your opportunity. Just moved one of the left turns. Seeing nobody moving at all. We close public comment and we will adopt. Those as submitted. We will now move to public comment on non agenda items. This is your opportunity. If you are in the chambers to participate it be a public comment and address anything within the purview of the public safety subcommittee that is not listed on the agenda. You have 3 minutes need to do is move to the lectern. Nobody's moving so we will go ahead and close public comment non agenda items moved to new business item 6 and we will start with 6.1 illicit massage establishments and that will be a pad and police. >> Good morning chair and members of the committee gave Osburn director of planning and economic development. Joining me today addition to Chief Cregan is Danielle de Baca senior code officer in

our Code Enforcement Division. And Lou Kirk to my right, who is our system, chief building official. And I'd like to kick this item off with just a really quick overview of where our goal is today for the presentation, the department has actually been working on modifications to the policies, procedures and codes that are associated with the enforcement of illicit massage. This would apply to massage in general. So it's fairly standard. One of the challenges as we go through this, we do have code sections that provide the ability to enforce. And some of the conversations today will be about enforcement when Chief Cregan does his overview. What we're looking at is how we can more effectively enforce. And I think the important balances anytime we have an illicit component to a legitimate business, it's understanding the balanced from a regulations standpoint for the legitimate operations that are performing We do not want to overly regulate, but we also want to provide the enforcement tools needed to ensure that we can do regular enforcement proactive enforcement on some of these uses. So our goal today is to really daylight some of the components that we're working on. From a timeline standpoint, this will really be a 2 step process. We will be going to the planning commission because our proposals will involve changes to the zoning code. And we will also be going to the full Council for adoption. We're looking at going to the planning Commission closer to the end of this calendar year into the full council 1st quarter of next year. So with that, I would like to hand the presentation over to MISTER Kirk who will go through the

slides. >> And actually, I'm sure going to hand off to senior code enforcement officer, Daniel, Baca. She's been tasked with leading the code enforcement side of this. Multi department effort my rule really is to help get the ordinance up and running and to provide support to her efforts and to the Chiefs efforts. So with that, I'm going to hand over to Daniela I will advance the slides for you. >> As you MAY know, the current ordinance was adopted in 2010 and has since become outdated, failing to address the evolving landscape of massage therapy and the challenges we faced with a list of populous operations. The existing ordinance. Thank you. >> The existing ordinance primarily focuses on business, licensing and revenue generation with comparatively limited regulation and enforcement. >> Over time this has contributed with the proliferation of illicit massage establishments in our city poses significant risks to public health safety and quality of life. Changes in state laws over the last several years have further highlighted the need for a more comprehensive and up-to-date ordinance. The proposed update aims to align our city's regulations with these changes and address the concerns of our community. State laws have prioritized public health and safety through the introduction of stricter regulations for massage, practitioners and establishments promoting professionalization within the field, strengthening licensing requirements and adherence to

specific standards of practice. These efforts have served to integrate massage therapy into a broader health care landscape, recognizing as potential benefits when provided any professional and regulated setting. Further, the state has increased the authority and autonomy of local jurisdictions to regulate massage establishments and power in cities to Taylor the ordinances to meet the specific needs of our community. And lastly, as we will explore in greater detail in the following slide, the state established a private nonprofit public benefit corporation providing statewide regulation and certification process is benefiting the public. A key component of our proposed ordinance. Disintegration of the California Massage Therapy Council referred to as Cam Tech. It's a stab list by the state legislature to play a crucial role in regulating massage therapy by approving massage schools overseen a certification program and ensuring that certified professionals MAY require training standards. They also have the ability to apply disciplinary actions including licenses, suspension or revocation, a bad actors. By leveraging can take resources. The proposed ordinance will establish clear criteria for the approval and permitting a massage practitioners and establishments. It will also outline specific requirements for practitioner codes of conduct and material standards, ensuring that operations are conducted in a safe and ethical manner. To enhance enforcement capabilities, deter Alyssa

operations and hold bad actors accountable. The ordinance will establish a robust and effective regulatory framework for massage establishments with provisions for proactive inspections, revocation procedures, and penalties for noncompliance. The ordinance will also recognize the need to provide additional relief to existing establishments that are currently operating in good faith and complying with existing regulations, ensuring a smooth and minimally impactful transition to the new ordinance. The finalization of the draft ordinance is underway and is projected to be complete by the end of this year. We anticipate presenting it to the Planning Commission for review no later than JANUARY 2025. Following the recommendations. The ordinance will be presented to the City Council for consideration No later than FEBRUARY 2025. Staff and community input is invaluable in shaping a regulatory framework that meets the needs of our city staff will continue to encourage participation in the review process and look forward to receiving feedback on the proposed ordinance by working together, we can create a more regulated and responsible environment for massage establishments in our city benefiting both consumers and businesses alike. >> Chief, did you want to step in for the slide? Provide just a brief update. I can't stress enough how much our code enforcement team has been such a a valuable ally in this project. And it's been a lot of work. And I know there's been some frustration about from the police department about us being actively

involved going out there and doing some of the enforcement. So we're really working toward doing that, but really so supported by our code team and that we really believe that having this new enhanced ordinance is really going to help be able to quickly identify some of the truly legitimate business is in Santa Rosa and we can use some of the code enforcement, but we're backing that up with collaboration between our domestic violence sexual assault team with work specifically with victims of human trafficking and crimes related to that here in the city of Santa Rosa. But also with our code enforcement team and working with some of our local nonprofits like parity, which specifically provide support and help to those who are victim of sexual assault or human trafficking. So we had talked earlier last time we heard APRIL, we had gone out in FEBRUARY of this year with our code enforcement team and hit a series of locations. 8 different businesses and there multiple code violations found earlier this month. We did 2 more days of operation for we went out and this time we used undercover resources to be able to watch some of these businesses that online appear to be promoting commercial sex trafficking. We our officers stopped multitude of cars, 12 different vehicles leaving these interview the drivers and were able to get clear admissions about some of the illicit sex work being done at these businesses. We work with code enforcement and also does some site inspections and again found some clear evidence of illegal behavior going on at some of these establishments. So we worked quickly to be able to provide resources to some of the human trafficking victims being at these locations. And then now comes the second part. We're really starting to dive down on the prosecution. And we have three-step

approach that we're going to be working over the next couple months. First is working on those who are actually utilizing the services of those locations. So we're going to be doing a series. Surveillance is of site visits and using some of the existing law to prosecute those who are visiting and using the services that these illicit massage establishments. Second, we're going to work on some of the business owners there who clearly are promoting commercial sex trafficking at those and use within the law between both our state and federal laws to have consequences for their behavior. And 3rd, we're going to work with Verity under other nonprofits here at the Family Justice Center to provide support to those who are being trafficked at those locations. So all 3 of those that you're going to see prosecutions of those who are utilizing new services, direct prosecution of the business owners who were clearly manipulating and using people in our community to make money. And 3rd, I've really providing some of those ballistic resources. And I think by that collaborative approach and in coupled with what we're doing with our code enforcement work here with this ordinance, you're going to see mark of a change in Santa Rosa over the next couple of months because undeniably we have some locations that are clearly utilizing women and others for human trafficking here in Santa Rosa, I'll turn it back over to coat there's anything else to wrap this up or questions from council. Yes, at this point in work to the question section. So if you have any questions for us where >> ready to answer them for you? Guzman robbers. Thank you, What when, where the changes adopted by the state of California? 2010 is imminent.

>> Roughly, I believe so. My question and I know this is a prominent just not only Rosa. >> warning what? Where would we? Where Curry have been more proactive letting our ordinances with that with the state of California. So we didn't have these bad actors run for the 14 years. >> First of all, say that the city I don't aired or or did not pay attention to the ordinance. However, while the ordinance existed, there were changes to state law can't act as we know one away for a while. Then came back with a slightly different structure. That rendered our ordinance a little bit behind the times in terms of being able to take advantage of all of those new provisions of state law in the meantime, also, our process has really been reactive. It's been in for a complaint based. So there was an opportunity for these actors to get into the city under the radar and established themselves. And that's what's putting us a little bit behind now. But with this new focus, this new team awareness and the new ordinance, especially we're going to be able to get caught up with that problem and leveraging the false the scope of what the state law Ford's us. We're gonna have a really robust ordinance. And I do recognize. >> That these are problems that put on a play by those before us. And not trying put one hot seat here, but I'm wondering how can we be more proactive with other ordinances or other laws that are being put forth from the state that we? Can be less reactive to and not just the

parlor issue, put all the issues that involve the public safety. >> Thank you, MR. Alvarez, I think from the just the question of how responsive can we be to state requirements, I think in some situations because the state changes and we set the ordinance to a line in the state changes and we're constantly playing this game of catch-up. And I think in this particular case with Camp Tech, obviously that's a tool in the tool box that we can utilize. But it's not the only one. And I think as MISTER Kirk mentioned, as we shift to more of a proactive enforcement and less reactionary for some of these uses that are a-list said are really creating bad situations in our community. It becomes more about our local code and how we basically define what the right is that we've approved and how we potentially revoke that right in an instance where we're seeing bad players operate those businesses. So I really do think it's a mixed bag. And then as we work through our modification to this ordinance, yeah, civil tied back to Camp Tech and will create that logical connection. But we're also looking at other tools that are within our control that where we can set it. We can make clear identifications based on showing up on the property that something is is not necessarily aligning with a legitimate massage parlor and we can make those decisions rapidly and we don't necessarily need that coordination to the state is much because I think one of the challenges is from an ordinance standpoint and really what you're seeing through this process, does take time. So the more rich who are playing catch up with the state, more we can potentially run into the situation where we're not necessarily aligning with

their ordinance, which gives that which means we lose that enforcement teeth if we don't have that connectivity. So I think it's equally important to look at both sides. >> And I do appreciate that. And for the public all have them know that our staff, we're addressing those issues are being very proud that I do appreciate the efforts you've been putting forward to address the issues that plague the car community. So do appreciate your efforts very much so. All right. Thank you. Just a couple questions I I don't know the proper term to use, but how many of these >> Same ownership. Multi location. Franchise, if you I mean, that's not a good term, but Are these all individually owned or their multiple. Multiple owned by. >> One individual or entity. >> It's actually a variety. So I can say that. In their most recent investigation I found at least. 45 businesses belonging to one business owner, not all of the illicit business businesses that are out there have certifications either by zoning clearance or buy the business tax certificate. So there is reason to believe that maybe, for example, that particular business owner MAY own more than just those 4, 5, There those that are individually owned. We do know that, but we're still looking into making these connections and further investigation into each of the locations. >> Okay. And then would be fair to assume that. Of these that are owned a Biden to do with multiple locations, not all are within the city of Santa Rosa. >> Yes, they are okay. Cam Tech working with any of our neighboring agencies and municipalities to know? >> I don't know for sure. All

right. And then my last question, can you sort of we also have a large interest in this item, as you can see behind and >> from the communication we've gotten from the public, obviously. Can you address the kind of the need of just for some discretion in how we can't communicate everything that's going on immediately due to some of the law enforcement aspect of this. >> Yeah, that's important for us. And I met with our domestic violence sexual assault team this week about in preparation for this meeting about what details they can get without jeopardizing some of the ongoing investigation. We're really blessed here in the city of Santa Rosa. We have Detective Tim Raman who's a state recognized expert in human trafficking literally travels around the state doing conferences on how to work within your communities and help victims of human trafficking. So he's leading this investigation. So that's an important part that we multiple variables and we have clearly what you talked about of one owner with multiple is that massage parlors not only here in Sonoma County, but throughout the Bay Area. And we're working both with our state and federal resources to address some of those things. But it comes with that. A lot of investigative steps and we don't want to compromise that. And so we're able to bring forward prosecutions and then really importantly, to help those victims of human able to get them out of harm's way. What I'm asking for the public is the trust that we're taking direct enforcement action in these areas and in the coming weeks and months will be able to put out press releases with talking about some of the rest and prosecutions that are happening with these investigations. Great. Thank you all the questions I have you any more counseling.

Before. >> On Page 5 discourages bad actors from establishing or continue to operate within the city. Best case scenario. What does that look like? One of the steps on the disease. How many days in the best case scenario? Want to take to shut down a bit the next question I think spoken before about general could enforce matters. And sometimes the violator will dictate the speed of a case. >> Every case is different has its own merits. It it has sometimes a lot of evidence sometimes not a lot we have to. We have to dig it out. So that can that can dictate the length of the case to begin with. Once we're into the workings of the enforcement action we've we've obtained or evidence and we know we're working with them are going forward. We have some fairly straightforward timelines will usually give people again. It's not an egregious violation, some due process to fix things. If it is egregious than we would go down a stronger path which could include shutting down to business and taking action to our city attorney's office. But again, there's just a wide range of things we encounter and we have to. Customers are approach for each of those cases. No looking at it. Statutorily with the new ordinance. We would have a strike system. Ideally has proposed similar to what we've seen with our short-term rental program where if there were material violations occurring. In proximity to one another, that someone could lose their license if there were gross violations such as human trafficking, it would be immediate. It would be a one strike and you're out kind of scenario. But again, this is all predicated on the idea

that people have gone through the process. The governor certifications and that governor licenses that makes it much easier for us to work with the bad actors who are operating under the radar don't have any sort of approvals. Sometimes we don't know they're there. We have to find them. And then we have to take action to ferret them out. >> and imagine that depending on on. Complaint driven enforcement or action when the committee speaks out identifies those unknown players. >> Absolutely. And we depend on on the community to do that because, you know, there's there's relatively few of us. We can't have our eyes on every story from every street every day. So we definitely appreciate the community assisting us by bringing to our attention. As we move forward, maybe we'll be able to see more of a proactive. Approach. It's always resource based. Of course. The ordinance, I guess, again, will be a primary tool and allowing us to have the ability to go out and and be more aggressive in our enforcement to make sure that these bad actors, particularly are closed down without necessarily penalizing with good actors. And you mentioned things things that you can encounter, which >> hinders your ability to close or at pull long. The closure of little bit actors. What are some of those things or community understands the type of obstacles that you encounter? >> Well, again, if they're operating, they're operating

covertly, if the windows are covered, if they don't have signage, if we don't know, they're there. They could go indefinitely. So when the neighbors or the community brings that to our attention, we can start an investigation. If nobody answers the door, we still don't know what's happening. Then we MAY have to reach out to the property owner. We have to explore. The acquisition of inspection warrants or search warrants through our city Attorney's office. But again, we have those tools is just there's an associated time cost with each of them. Appreciate it, sir. >> All right. With that, we will move on to public comment on this item. If you'd like to speak on this item, you have 3 minutes. You can submit your name up at the top there. But you do not. You're not required to please move. One of the lec turns to speak. Laurie Fong will be first members that have submitted. And then after that, we will go to whoever would like to speak again 3 minutes. Please state your name for the record. If you wish to do so. >> I represent. Asian American Pacific Islander Coalition of centered in Sonoma County and actually house here in Santa Rosa. I want to thank all of you. COUNCILMAN Okrepkie Alvarez chief Craig everybody in the committee for doing this kind of work because we're talking about protecting the most vulnerable, the most invisible. This is the kind of work it takes. I know it's very, very long. Very drawn out work, very specific work. And I know it takes a long time. I want to thank you because this is kind of work that. Makes visible the issues of those marginalized and vulnerable people, particularly Asian immigrants.

We'll talk about that. Also coming across the border. Other immigrants from Latin America, South America. We're hearing more about that about trafficking young people. Plus women plus young men. I think that Santa Rosa can take the lead on this. And we are worried, actually, that The tip of the iceberg or the illicit massage parlors. But we know that when people are looking for a way to make a profit and we're taking advantage of vulnerable people, that there are many, many different ways to do this. So I hope that we don't end with. Code enforcement. That is our first weigh in but that we continue with them investigating the sex trafficking, human trafficking, not only in our jurisdiction, but that we share the expertise that you are learning right now in creating for ourselves for a robust city that we live in fear all the other municipalities because these people were talking about moving, they move, they move the women. They just move. They disappear. I want to thank Verity for their involvement and particularly again. Our police department for taking care of this and please know pick my organization. We're standing ready to partner with you and to continue to watch and to stand up for those invisible vulnerable economically to depleted. In deprived people who live with us. Thank you so much. Thank Next will be Lisa followed by Beverly. I echo all of what you just said. And I want to a little bit more conversation. I'd like to see what else sees or involved in these multi once has that had

a discovery process, an investigation? Are we seeing a shell company that actually owns these where there's a paper trail that leads to something else? Something else. >> I think there's a bigger on those multiple ones specifically since you said now they are also in other Bay Area locations. I would like to see that discovered. I don't know if you have and joint with fbi or somebody else, but I think this is much bigger than mom and pop shops open up around the place. The fact that they haven't been shut down, the fact that there's been so many complaints tells me there are a little protected. So somebody is getting money from it. That isn't just the workers. I was a licensed massage therapist here in the county worked for many years, a different salons and and places. And I did my own exploration of this and called 3 of the places in my neighborhood. Not one of them could tell me any kind of massage. Not one of them would book an appointment for me. And that's just a resident calling in. So the fact that somebody hasn't thought these were a problem before is a little disturbing. That MAY be those complaints haven't gone anywhere. I'm tempted to pull a foia request to see how many how many complaints have been made and what's been done in action on that. And and who's had their work stymied by other people saying, oh, it's not important because they're definitely victims in this. >> Thank you very much. Next is Beverly followed by Patrick. >> Hello, nice to see you again. I look forward to seeing the draft of the

ordinance and I'm happy early MAY with a California massage Therapy Council director of Governmental Affairs and human trafficking. So I'm happy to provide more resources such as other ordinances. In addition to the ones that I previously with specific purse provisions that the city MAY be interested in. Applications, temple applications and once ordinances passed to be happy to inspection checklists based on ordinance that makes a very convenient for code enforcement to go in and siya violation, check the box and have the section of your code or state law that that's violating to make a very simple to site ca mpc is also starting a new initiative with the Coalition against Slavery and Trafficking based in Los Angeles. To focus on labor trafficking in massage, which is easier to identify and to get the victims to speak about labor violations. We also open to an you with the city as a framework for ongoing collaboration. We have 2 examples where this is working is San Diego and Santa Clara County. And to the question and thus far as whether we're working with any cities in this area right now, not at this very moment, although there's been a code enforcement as been interested in working with us in Santa Rosa but hasn't gotten traction it with the council. >> All right. Next up is Patrick. >> want to thank you for the tips. Want to thank you for the time be put into this

problem. And doing research. I kind of shocked to discover that there's more illicit massage businesses in the country than there are MacDonald's. There's someone in the range of 13,000 so obviously it's nationwide problem, something that I think there's federal resources, state and local, too combat this problem. I think what most gratified here this morning was that it to see that there's a time frame being put on Sometimes. I political situations things get put on the backburner and if there's not public interest, that kind of just stay the way they are get worse. I was a bit shocked the other day driving down highway 12, too. See what was for many Real estate office is now Highway 12 massage. So I'm looking forward to the days where there's if you are these operations rather than more themselves. Appreciate everyone's effort. I think it's all in good faith and look forward to some concrete down resolution spank you. Thank u. Next up. We have Michelle. Thank you for what you're doing. I had a question for Chief Cregan. >> So he mentioned that they want to hear from us. But who do we call and what kind of information do they want to that? We can effectively help and not be just giving information that isn't helpful. So that was my one question. Okay. Thank >> Is there anybody else that would like to speak on this well-worn public comment? Seeing none. We'll close public comment and bring it back here. If you don't mind councilmembers, I have. Chief

Craig then maybe pad as well address who individuals can report suspected expected Alyssa businesses too. >> Yeah, as far as the police department are catchall, which is the easiest of sending an email to Srpd info at sr City Dot org. So Srpd info at Sr City Dot org and that will get that goes to one of our administrative secretaries and they'll for that to the appropriate detective team and that in this case to go to domestic violence, sexual assault team always people can send information directly to me and Jake Reed and as a sr city dot and I'll send it to the appropriate resource for that. And that's just want to ensure people to the comments about like the timeline. Sometimes it takes a little bit to get the momentum rolling. But let me promise you like the ball is rolling really forward on this. Now you're going to start seeing progress on the enforcement side. The code enforcement side with that ordinance. And I think early 2025, you're gonna start seeing some transformation across the city. >> The chair the chair. >> The public can also send e-mails to office and as our city that work, a oftentimes emails to get lost. So if you feel like you don't get a response, you can atop our office as well. >> And then lastly, on the cold side, we have our online portal on the city website. You can also use code at sr City Dot org. My personal e-mail well. Kark at us or city Dot org. And I also can ensure the complaints come to the right person. Thank you very Right. Any final comments

or questions? >> Lastly, we just give information of where the contact. Whatever information is helpful from the community when they are contacting you. >> Really? You can't have too little information. Anything feel is important. It could be hours of operation. What they've seen, what they think is occurring, things they've overheard. A lot of peoples are really innovative. And Bill give us Web site addresses or Facebook pages. >> Or there's other websites that the deal with illicit massage, especially in Millville do that research forest. So anything license numbers on frequent cars that are seeing their we can work with that police department on that photographs. If they feel comfortable taking them, there's no limit will take it all. A lot of people are also concerned about anonymity. And in most cases, we can guarantee that up wrecked records request and things like that. We were attacked, complete information if we wound up in a court situation, there MAY be a chance that information would be discoverable, but more often than not. And with great success were able to ensure that on anybody. >> And with that or just want to thank staff for your efforts, want to thank the committee for for voicing new concerns and also at end of the day, only so I think you see best information, best information is that information that we get from the community. So thank everyone for that. Thank you. And can't wait for that and turn council to be able to

take this on. >> All For me, some important things is I understand, you know, that a lot of times as a city, we have to be reacted to the state. >> And it's hard to foresee what's going to happen to the state level with some of their codes and things like Someone once told me that the California constitution changes more often than a Google Doc so it can be difficult to to keep up. But I appreciate your efforts. The one thing I do want to focus on is the region. This is more of a regional issue. I mean, it's a statewide issue, but for us what we can of what we can effect change with is a regional issue I would like to see as this progresses Arpad department, code enforcement and our police to share information with our neighbors. I was looking at the map. There's unincorporated Sonoma County Road Park locations on I think we should kind of set the standard going forward and tee up their ability to do the same and then also working with our federal partners, law enforcement officer once told me that the federal government has 2 things that local law enforcement doesn't have time and resources. And I think that's important, especially as we're talking about something as serious as this. I do appreciate code with with shutting down some of these businesses already unpermitted walls and bathrooms. It's very reminiscent of taking down Al Capone on evasion. But I do want to say. Thank you so much for that effort you put in so

far the continued if you're going to put in, I look forward to this coming back and seeing what this what this does. But I do want to emphasize that we should be sharing information especially in light of the commenters, said that no one in this areas as working with can't hack Aside from us. So I want to be sure that we can nip that in the and for the other agencies around and not just have this problem shuffled around, but try to end it in Summit County. So there are these like that. And you came in late. With There's no further questions. We will close item 6.1 and will move to item 6.2 Viles reduction strategies. >> Chief John Cregan from Santa Rosa Police Department. And today we're excited to kind of talk about some of the significant progress we've made in reducing violence across the city of Santa Rosa. And we're going to talk about some of the key strategies were using to accomplish that. So we talked about here just really excited about some of the key priorities and what been able to do and we've talked about it to the and giving updates to the council over the years. But now what? We're really comparing us, some of the data that we track and we have an incredible crime. Analysts teams that provides me with a monthly report on year-over-year. So the stats that we're going to go through today are comparing JANUARY through AUGUST of 2023 to JANUARY through AUGUST of 2024 because we always lag by about 4 to 6 weeks for data before it goes completely through our records management system. So it's a little bit of a lag there before we have the accurate data. So we're going to go through and share some of this and talk about some of the priorities and talk about some of the areas

that we still want to continue to focus on. The first thing that we talking, I started kind of breaking down it. Mike, how do we think we've been successful in what's been really moving the needle the most for us? And part of it starts with clear operational objectives for the starting from me is the chief and our command staff team. So we stepped into the role chief we created for like operational objectives. We call it and we have violence reduction traffic, safety enforcement, the quality of life and mental health support for community and community engagement. Those are for like main pillars that were saying for all of our officers, our detectives, this is what we want you focused on is your core mission here at the Santa Rosa Police Department. And by that, it helps us carve some of the decisions we're going to make and where we're allocating resources to the police department. And we're proud of the significant progress we made in all 4 these operational objectives. Going to the data. And I really of love to use data in my time as chief to be able to compare like, what are we doing? Well, what are we not in my talks with the city manager about trying to show us some of the progress is so on that where we'll start with shooting calls year-to-date. So again, this is through the end of AUGUST of 2024. And we're excited to see a 56% reduction year-over-year of shootings being reported to the police department. And you see we've seen highs and lows in 2020 2021. And that's been going down year after year. But this year down remarkably at 56%. And we are continuing the initial data that I have going in OCTOBER. We're continuing the even widen that margin. Homicides. This is another one that we start staggering amount for. The

city of Santa Rosa and 2022. And in AUGUST, we've already had 10 homicides in 2022. And last year we had 7 and still today through Mid-OCTOBER, early at 2 homicides. And that's still 2 tragic loss lives that were lost here. But Ali, significantly down and that's markedly. And that's a staggering 71% decrease in our homicide rate this year. And we're hoping to continue that and continue that progress going into 2025. We've really add up, Rob focused on proactive policing at our community and still doing it with treat people with dignity and respect. But getting out there. And that's been a clear directive from the top of our organization here. And we're continuing to see the upward rise and fire arm seizures and 100%. There's a correlation between the more firearms are seizing off the streets of Santa Rosa to a decrease in shooting calls and homicides because not only were getting some of the repeat offenders off the streets, but we're getting those firearms that are you're used and repeat incident after incident before finally were taken off the street. So just through the end of AUGUST 274, illegal firearms taken off the streets of Santa Rosa, not top the council before last year was the most firearms we take in our department's history at 2.55. So we're well lips that the initial data that I have going in OCTOBER's, we're well into the 300's now that we've had in this last 6 weeks since this data. So I really impressive and that's really the incredible men and women of the Santa Rosa Police Department getting out there and what I'm also really proud of is the good decisions that we're making, that they're contacting. That's individuals who are armed or sometimes committing violent crimes in

our police officers are able to de-escalate those situations, seized those illegal firearms without getting in the shootings with those individuals. And that really takes a lot of restraint and training. And I'm proud of their decision-making on these calls. The ghost guns ones. And this is out of the 2.70, force out of those 274 87 of those where these privately manufactured firearms known as a ghost gun. With that, that's the proper remarkable 129% from last year. And that's one of the things that we're still working on is with our federal partners with our state partners and we were blessed to be able to meet some federal and state representatives. And we had our detectives come up a list of like some of the legal loopholes that criminals are using across the state of California that are state and federal legislators can help us. We are able to present that data and we're hoping to be able to inform summer legislators to make informed decisions and change some of these laws. So it's not so easy to be able to have ghost guns in our street. Our detectives also spent a whole day on Thursday with our pension partnership, talking about violence, strategy, reduction strategies across the city and were able to present a case to parents and show them actual ghost guns and the parts and how easy it is to manufacture those. And that's how we're going continue to focus some of the root cause of these issues with such as ghost guns. Another one that we discussed a lot at the-20 summit last week as juvenile access to firearms. So we saw that up. 55% that just through AUGUST 17 juveniles in Santa Rosa have been arrested, armed with a handgun and the city of our streets are like that are in the streets of our city. So that's alarming for us and something that we want to

continue to focus on. When we start talking about what are some of the strategies, one that I I think it's really been impressive part of this is some of our specialty teams. It starts with the last DECEMBER in 2023. We brought back are dedicated Brian Gaine crimes team and their focus not just on enforcement, but in some of the other key areas of prevention, intervention and education working really closely with the Vine Essential Partnership, referring some of these juveniles and their families to the resources they need. And the gang crimes team has certainly been a difference maker for our community and reducing some of this violence. Also our special enforcement team and they work on the high visibility uniform patrol. So they're out there in the community. They're being first responders too quick violent incidents that are getting getting there and then really working on the focus on illegal firearms and having a rapid response to shootings and other incidents. And so they've been a game changer as well. Our violent crimes team have been incredible about their ability. And there in the 90 percentile of our homicide rate closure, which is remarkable. So they're really putting a lot of resources into solving these violent crimes, getting some of the repeat offenders off and really putting the focus toward bringing justice to the victims for homicides and their families here in the city of Santa Rosa. And then lastly, our downtown enforcement team last year council blessed us with 2 more additional bodies that were able to put in have now 8 dedicated countown enforcement officers that are now at 7 days a week and really a focus on some of the homeless impacts and the safety downtown. And I try to make a

point of walking downtown a regular bases and contacting community members and our business leaders downtown and overwhelmingly hear the positive impact that we've never seen downtown so clean and so vibrant and feeling so safe. And those who need the services getting the services they need. So this is something that all 4 of those team have certainly had a factor in some of the results that we're seeing today with the violence reduction. The next one is a data led policing initiative. And this is something that we're utilizing our crime analysts to be able to use this data to actually like markedly move, where we're allocating our resources. What we're doing in the city. What times if there's times that we need to post overtime for things like that. So we do with that monthly be report. And this is where we're really focusing on focus areas. And so we break down all 9 of our patrol beads and where the biggest issues and we do it by those for operational objectives of violence reduction in traffic safety, the quality of life and mental health and the community engagement. And we are able to highlight what some of those events we can talk about where the most violent crimes and there and they're beat were for that last month and they could put some additional extra patrols in that area. Start working with community members in that area. But also equally important is the community engagement. So we're putting hey, there's going to be a big event in Southwest Community Park this week. So we want our officers to go to that event and go pass out some stickers and talk to some of the families there at whatever the park or whatever the event is crawling across that city. The second is a patrol be dashboard and this is where we

worked with our team so we can go to some of the problem locations. And we all have that that house where officers are responding 10 times, 15 times a month to this one house or this one business that we're going to. So they're using that to be able to document and better communicate between the weekday teams in the weekend. Teams in the supervisor's coordinating some of those resources working with other city departments. And that's been really one of our focuses of using code enforcement using transportation public works and these other apartments, they're really focused like a list to cleon the root causes some of the problem locations and start to identify what they are. And that really has been a game changer for us of actually utilizing that down or more meaningfully that I think we have in the past. The problem oriented policing principles. We actually brought in a group of federal expert who did a training for our department talking about like, how do you build this problem oriented policing principles into the culture of our organization and that goes into the some of the same principles and talking with data led policing. Where are you focusing on the root cause of the issue instead or reply or responding repeatedly to the same intersection and take inclusion after collision. How do we start looking about okay? Is there a roadway design here? Is there. Is there something we do is speed limits? Is there something we could do with lighting are going to the same convenience store over and over and over with people ordering drinking shootings, fights that are happening over there. How about we work with that business owner, whether be some lighting cutting some strawberry way using some city ordinances that we have in place and start working toward the deep rooted issues at issue. At those establishments

are those locations and residents and then working with collaborate with our other city that that principle. I think it's also really helped to be able to meaningfully get down toward reducing some of the violence and calls for service. That's some of the problem. Locations. The impacts of full staffing. I can't say this enough when we just 3 years ago we had 21 sworn police officer vacancies and another 10 police officers that were out on long-term injuries. So that was 31 less officers who were patrolling the city of Santa Rosa. So now that we're actually completely fully staffed with our sworn positions, it's really helped us What one of our focuses is Ben and reducing our response to priority one So that's absolute emergency calls for service. That is our specialty teams at full capacity, much higher visibility in the community. And that's where you're seeing more officers downtown in the parks and other community locations. That's given us the ability to actually proactively police in our community and said it is responding, called a call to call. And then what really what we're focusing on is using this time to slow down to diagnose the issues. What is the problem? What are some of the other community partners we can work with whether some of the other city departments we can work with and really building that trust with our community. Because for me, it's we're not going to solve. Is what the police department. We have to do it with support from other city departments and from from our community stakeholders and his issues by all of us coming together holistically. We really can start making a difference in our community. Focusing on the root causes. And I can't say again and this has been really want out of the things that I've been working on as a leader is like, how do we leverage the

other city departments? I can't say enough about the virus pension partnership and I communicate weekly with Daniel Carr. Do know from executive director of the manager of the Virus Prevention Partnership, our Community Engagement team in an airport and others coming up turbines and helping support what we're doing in the community. Transportation and public works about helping us with some of signage areas, speed limits and traffic safety and other issues across the city here today was a perfect example of partnering with planning and economic development. And we have so many shared missions of all of our departments and the more we work together, our community stakeholders and we get together with we have teams going to that. The Pps both operational policy team meetings that we have and really trying to share. And a big focus been working with our school districts here in the city of Santa Rosa and working on some of the school related issues. And that's been a journey. But we're continuing to work with them and how we can ensure that we have safe campuses that across all the districts that are represented across the city of Santa Rosa. And then a quick overview we talked about and these are what we come together and buy team of been the clears areas that are really moving this needle forward and that of the operational objectives, the proactive policing really utilizing the resources of all of our specialty teams across the Santa Rosa Police Department utilizing data and this focus on the problem Oriente up really principles. The root cause is working with other city departments and community stakeholders our full staffing. The end of the day, none of this is possible without the collective work of

the men and women of the Santa Rosa Police Department. This is something that's easy for me to try to take credit as the chief. It's not me. It's the men and women of the Santa Rosa Police Department. Her getting out there every day making incredible good decisions. Putting themselves in danger. Time to be able to do that. And they're the ones who are really doing it. So I'm so thankful for the 264 employees that we have and each one has a meaningful part, whether it be the dispatcher taking the call, the records, individuals who are processing all the reports and the evidence for us. Our field evidence technicians and the police officers are responding in. The supervisors are making sure they manage each one of these scenes. So I'm so proud of all the work they're doing. And I know I really want to quickly without its want to give a high-level overview of some of the areas that were doing out, turn it over for any questions. Thank you, chief. Question to start on the side. You have any questions. MADAM Mayor. >> Thank you. The question I had about the concerning the shooting calls for those confirmed or is just any call that comes in that is reported that shot. >> The shooting calls we call them super miscue a shooting. So this is anytime someone calls to the police department able to articulate that. They've heard a shooting in the city of Santa Rosa. So there are some that we go there. But we find shell casing. There's no victim. There are some that we hear regularly where we talk about, hey, we heard shots fired in the area will interview people we can find. Victims are shell casings. So that's collaborative all shooting calls that come into the Santa Rosa Police Department. Thank you. Councilmember over >> think you might not have this information with you,

too. But I want about a violent crimes. How's that looking in compared first of should be saying your efforts to remove. Guns from the community has made the difference. And it's apparent by the metrics. But I want to cause of violent crimes. Where are we at with that? >> All of them are trending down. So we tracked by category. So we start tracking by whether it be sexual sold robberies and then we'll break down each one of the property crimes and things like that. So we break that down. We've seen an uptick in some of the property crimes across our city. And that's something that we're kind of facing across California. But we're seeing the majority of all violent crimes trending down in the city of Santa Rosa. The reality is this is a very safe and vibrant city. But we also have to understand it's a large city and there's always going to be some layer of violent crime. And that's what we're continuing to work. But I think if we were Calista Cleon, some of these root causes, we can start seeing a measurable decrease in that and what we're also really trying to do is focus on providing resources to victims of violent crime and making sure whether it be the Family Justice Center. We talked about today our resources to our district attorneys office or other resources. We have to the bias mention partnership, all those together of giving them the resources and making sure that they can have a journey to being killed and having those resources. They have the recovered from that by a crime. >> And just close off by saying you're definitely doing and very humbly. You've doing a great job when it comes to the public safety of Santa Rosa. And love that. You don't take credit for for your in the institution, but it definitely is about the division with the helm. And for me, it's it's I see

individual who's fighting crime. But he has respect for each and every member of the community. So you always appreciate it, sir. Just want to know that. Thank you so much for your support. All right, as have a couple quick questions looking at the homicides, what is or solve rate part and not our. We don't do anything yourself rate for homicides. That's where we've been pretty incredible like that. That year-over-year. >> That we were the and the last 2 years. Our violent crime only has one homicide that hasn't been solved. And that was a difficult kitten court. Where is that simple? Drive-by shooting and there were no witnesses. A shot was just heard. Unfortunately, deceased victim was found there at the scene. We're still actively pursuing leads on that and working to get community support. But we had one. It was just in the paper this week that went to a preliminary hearing that want to come stock mall. That was a really difficult one that had been outstanding in our Texas really came together using dna evidence and witness interviews and things like that to be able to successfully bring forward. So that's that's one thing that I think is a difference. Makers are violent. Crime team has always been over the good over the years. But I think right now we have one of the best performing teams that had that really and we're different than some communities because we put the resources into it and others, unfortunately, just don't have the resources and they can only spend 2030, hours on a homicide and they have to go to the next one for us. We bring in a lot of resources and we slow thing now as we continue to work, whether it takes months or years to be able to solve those homicides are really proud of the work they're doing. Great. Thank you. I know there's one recently

solved after about a year and a half to Jackie Centers time that was. And that's another great example of one that. >> Very limited. A man was found in the middle of the night at the drive through there at the Jack in the box. There's not a whole lot of witnesses but really put a lot of work into unfortunate case 2 gang members is found. Someone who challenge them had no gang involvement whatsoever. And ended up shooting him, executing him right there in the Jack in the box parking lot. >> When it comes to the seizures of firearms and ghost guns. Obviously they're going up and this is kind of people wonder is that because there's more or is that because we're doing a better job the police department or a combination of both. >> I think undoubtedly it's a combination of both, but I think without a doubt, they're just more firearms in the streets of Santa Rosa than they have ever been. And it's not just Santa Rosa. It's across California and it's because of the ease of access of firearms. I worked many years. I was on the gang crimes team and work many years as a patrol officer and a proactive officer would get a firearm, maybe every 4 to 6 months. We have an officer who got to last week. The same officer is it's happening almost every night somewhere in the city of Santa Rosa. It's because they're just more accessible than they ever have been before. We're seeing it through a variety of firearms stolen out of homes and then resold on the streets. The most perfect as we saw the 87 ghost guns, that it's not that difficult. And within about 2

to 3 hours, we're watching some YouTube videos. You can put together a ghost gun at your own house and sell those on the streets. And then we also see some of the straw purchases that we have. Unfortunately, people who can legitimately buy a firearm and they're buying it for restricted person, whether it be a boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever it is, an in fire must get using illicit Lee in the streets of Santa Rosa. So it's something that we have to continue to work. And that's a perfect example of root causes like talking to kids about the dangers of carrying these firearms. And we've seen with the use of social media that kind of raises the status sometimes, juveniles to be showing firearms on social media that they have these firearms like that. Becomes like a status symbol. So kids crave that. So they're getting these ghost guns, another list of guns. I'm able to do that. So that's where we start working with parents. We start working with you so they understand the dangers these firearms and we start working with our state and federal partners to making it more difficult to be able to easily order ghost gun parts and get it to deliver to your house the next day. And then watching YouTube video, how to put it together. And that's unfortunately too easy to do. Agreed. And it was actually I believe the Supreme Court reference to see Santa Rosa and one of our reporters here for the press Democrat and with Ghost guns last week, which is. >> Not exactly what we want to be on the front pages of the paper for. Ghost guns are more prevalent than ever. And we really do appreciate your efforts. Many of further questions before we go to public comment. All right. We'll go to public comment on

this item. Seeing nobody else here will close public comment. Come back for final comments for council. >> Just want to say it is very it's great to work with the department to see how you are collaboratively working live. All departments across the city and just getting it done and definitely changing the culture. The culture that you have within the department, but also the relationships you have with people outside of the department. So it's not then U.S.. So thank you very much for your efforts. I know the that it is everyone. Is everyone, but it definitely takes a good leader for people to want to follow that lead or so. Thank you very much. >> Yeah, thanks so much. And I'm blessed that we just have such a great city team here with all of our city directors and all coming together and ultimately under the leadership of our city manager. >> Yeah, I agree with Mary Rodgers on everything she said. I with violent crime and downtown, of course, team and the special Enforcement team. It's no wonder that Santa Rosa was named one of the safest cities in America recently. And that downtown is is better than it's been in a long, long time. Regardless of what some naysayers And I think it's a testament to to you and your department, the culture that exists and the culture within the city of Santa Rosa to make safer and better city. So thank you for the do think that presentation, obviously your efforts in the department's efforts bearing out with data. And if there's

one thing Council loves its its data, the proof that what we're trying to undertake is actually working. So thank you for that. Appreciate it. Thank With that, we will move on to the next which is a measure h implementation Plan update Division chief. Lowenthal. >> Good Morning, Paul and all Division chief fire marshal covering the fire department's measure h implementation update on behalf of our chief Scott Westrope. So currently the county of Sonoma is working with on an agreement to ensure that when the measure h funds are ready to restart start being received in MARCH of 2025, that there's an agreement in place to allow for that transfer. We are estimating that we will receive about 8.5 million dollars per year. Obviously that revenue will be flexible based on sales tax fluctuations up and down. But that is our projection right now. Ultimately that will cover the 35 full-time employees. The 2 new fire stations in the road with the relocation of a 3rd fire station and then the positions that will cover engine 9 engine 12, the heavy rescue, the second battalion and the additional vegetation management staff. Currently we are working with a contractor to secure the new devote development deployment analysis to make sure that we're still putting our stations in the places they need to go. We do not anticipate any changes based on what our current projections are right now. Want current information to validate that for our team. So right now, the for some kind our chief simple, intelligent implementation team is working

to make sure that they have a process like we talked about to make sure the transfer the revenues come through. They have hired a executive coordinator to make sure that they're helping with that process as well. Dealing with the contract of financial services and legal services, but ultimately want to make sure that really a smooth process between the funds are coming in and being allocated to the city. The fire chief has been working with the executive staff at the city manager level. They see them well as a director to make sure that all the executive team that will have touch points on this are being communicated with again to make sure that the plan is realistic and that as the revenue comes in, there's pieces in place to start making implementations. No one's caught off guard. The fire department has been closely between labor and management to make sure again that all those that are involved in the implementation planning and execution of the plan at all. Different levels are touching it so that there's buy-in for its urban understands what's going on behind the scenes. And what is a plan to take places, things start getting rolled out. Obviously the fire service were very familiar with the ICs organization chart. We use it a lot on emergencies and we're using it to aid in our implementation teams, development of the actual plan. So all the way from the incident commander is the fire chief with his Lee is on from the local 14 0, 1, and the branches broken down to everything we need to cover from facilities. Fleet equipment, Personnel, Communications administration, each one of groups has a chief officer assigned to it with

different labor reps and different committee members and team members that again are all helping provide the input based on their subject matter. Expertise. And that is your measure. H update and I will happily answer any questions they can and if not happy to have the fire chief follow up with the city manager and getting you any information that we can answer today. Thank you very much. Any questions. >> Now have a couple. >> The on slide. 2, 8.5 million. >> That number. I've seen fluctuate. Up and down. How how solid is that? 8.5 is at a conservative estimate because it didn't go as high almost 13 sometimes. So where's that number coming from? >> Thank you for the question. That is a good question. I know that the chief doesn't want to over project what we're bringing So I know he likes to err on the side of caution, but I'm happy to follow up on where the number currently is. Review the power play with him yesterday and he felt that the 0.5 was was a good number for for where we're at right now. Okay. >> So it does end up being like 10 and that's just gravy. We do anticipate there will be fluctuations, but we don't want to over commit the dollar amount. Enough >> and >> I know one of the big concerns is a pretty significant ramp-up and resources. Are there any concerns when it comes we'll take this one at a time. Procurement apparatus. I know that we've ordered some some apparatus to be replace to replace some of our is

currently and there's a significant way time. So when it comes apparatus or maybe land acquisition for some of these fire stations, is there concern and the ability to get those in a timely manner? >> So that brought if you don't mind is covered under the fire department update in the next and then land acquisition. We're actively working with our real estate team on working to secure properties. But again, as our facilities, chief officer is looking for space to the South. We're working real estate off team on locations to the east, getting good ideas. But again, we want also wait to see what deployment analysis comes back with. Also. >> Okay. And then the 35 Ft. That's a that's a lot a short period of time. This MAY be better for the chief to follow up on. But it is there any concern about being able to get enough of those? Especially since we have a paramedic requirement? >> The chief under personnel group are looking at what recommendations they can make to 8 and that hiring process. Middle likely be a phased approach. We're not intending to hire all 35 once. It will be rolled out as staffing is available. Resource available in space is available. >> Okay. Great. And then my last question is, is there any part of this implementation plan that would cover? Further need in the downtown area? Just because we're focusing heavily on density downtown when it comes to housing.

There MAY be an issue with just having one truck and one engine for downtown. As we start approving 10 story, 8 story buildings. >> Yeah, our hope is that all that will be covered under the deployment analysis. Okay. Great. Thank you. >> With that will move to public comment. Staying nobody else in Chambers. We'll close public comment. Bring it back for a final comments. MADAM Mayor. All right. Yeah, thank you for this. I I would like to see >> You know, some of these questions of that fire chief. I know he's at a time when he has a chance. Once it gets back to maybe a little bit further detail on what's not covered in department updates I would say MADAM City managers as well as the final plan gonna come back the full Council for review. If you would like to come back, we can bring it back to the full Council. I don't myself my colleagues, but I think with the significant amount of money and resources that are coming down the pipeline with it would be prudent. Yeah. So I would like to see once once its ability, which I believe is JANUARY come to the full council sometime after that. With that, we will move on to a department reports. We're going to flip these just because you're sitting at the debt at the table right now. So we'll go with a point to fire department update. First. >> All right. Good morning, Paula again, Division chief fire marshal covering for fire Chief Scott Wester upon the fire departments update. I did want to circle back really quickly to that last slide. The it's the committee from Measure h implementation does plan to have the report completed internally within 30 days of Submittal to the city manager to make sure that

we're in alignment with projections of what we need develop in the plan. So that it's got at least 30 days before it gets the final city manager sign off. So diving right into our fire departments, staffing updates as the first item. Currently we have 169 employees side of the apartment of her position patrol is 12 of those are the safer employees. In operations or suppression. Men in the fire engine fire ladder truck squad staffing. We have 12 vacant positions currently right now. In response is fully staffed with the 6 primary medics and then obviously we have the ongoing continuous recruitment was alluded to in the measure. H update with our next Plan Academy a number of 2024, both the Fire Prevention Division Administration divisions are both at full staff in right now. Under fire station updates, Fire station 5 fizzle. Construction is currently underway as you've The projection of a completion date of APRIL 2025. Pending any delays which none are for seeing right now. So excited to see that timeline. Fire station 8 will be coming before you next week as accounts for the design. Build contractor selection. And currently we do not have a defined start completion date. Fleet, which you talked look West a little bit of information about. So we did just receive the 2 that brought us. And want to mention 11 that were ordered to originally on DECEMBER 2021, those just went into service over the last couple weeks. We have the 5 type ones that were expecting to arrive in spring of 2025. The type 6 is I don't have an estimate on those are still in bill

process. The truck, the new ladder truck, those delays and the turnaround think is what you're alluding to a little bit is that does take a lot of time. We have an estimate of 2028 for the new truck. One. And then in the purchase processes, the 2 new transport, capable squads that are fully funded by the piece up. That's the public safety and Prevention. Citizens committee. And then safer update. Those are the 2 ball that to ease that we talked about the single paramedics that are staffing. The Ellis quads. They are currently operational, have been very effective. Currently running anywhere from a 12230 calls a week, which is pretty considerable. You do oftentimes hear them coming up on the air in place of engines or while they're covering specific stations when an engine is committed or training, it is really truly provide a higher level of service and is helping keep the apparatus like the engines and a lot of trucks available for other critical responses while they are committed to the interventions. And that does it for the update. Any questions? Any questions from the committee? >> Seeing none. We'll go to public comment. There is nobody in the chambers. We will bring it back to council any final comments. >> the question the apparatus. So when we receive a new credit do we put one out of

service or do we keep it in case something happens because I know sometimes things go down. On the. >> Credits. Yeah. So that's covered under the vehicle replacement program. Typically yes. Under vehicle replacement when a vehicle is due for replacement, part of the process is when you receive the new piece of equipment, you sell off the old piece of equipment. You do that because you have to offset some of the costs that are not essentially built into the replacement value. So, for example, when we want to replace the investigation unit, we build up the account for the replacement. We sell the van that's currently serving those purposes. Not dollar amount helps offices. The replacement costs, but that's not necessarily case every single time. We do have plans to maintain some level of reserves right now as we're transitioning out of a lot of our older apparatus to new route brought us. So some will go away. But some will be kept. So when a primary engine gets trickle down to reserve engine the existing reserve engine. Then goes out the door. >> Perfect. Yeah. I know it's been a problem sometimes on some of specialty. Equipment or apparatus go down, then we don't have something to to back up. So that what's question. Yeah. So right now the goal is to make sure that we have a enough of a reserve fleet to make sure that we're trying to avoid that as much as possible. >> Alright council members, things more request a and about 2 weeks ago to the of torque. >> Of the. >> All the offices, shops and rose. And that's being

constructed in and has broken. I wonder if it's possible. Also take a tour as station number 5 to see the the work is that says is being under way. >> Yeah, absolutely. I'd be happy to have the fire chief for the city manager and help facilitate that too perfect. Every sheet that. >> All right. I don't have anything to add to. Thank you for the report will move on to the police Department. Update. Thank you. Division chief. >> John Craig it I'm gonna keep it short. Today we had some leafy presentations as wanted to give a brief update on in response or mental health support team. A fire chief fire Marshal Lowenthal referred to with that that we have all 6 of the paramedic positions filled. And that was one thing that we're in really struggling of hiring the paramedic specifically for in response. So all 6 of those are filled. The counties has been incredible partner with the licensed mental health conditions that are on the team and the last one fill position is expected to get off training in the coming weeks. So we're really excited after almost 3 years we started in JANUARY of 2022. That early DECEMBER, we expect that launch or 13 and have a full 24 7 response with our mental health team. And that's going make it eligible for us to get some of the Medicaid funding that we're going to getting. So we're really working at a meeting with our team last week about what do we expect? How are we tracking? So I can get some early projections for council and that's really key for me to keeping that team sustainable, especially the 24

7 model with some of the budget deficits that we have looming for the city. So we're really working toward exploring county measure o funds available grant funds working with some of our local hospitals for funding but also this Medicaid funding as another bucket. But in the meantime, I think that's going to be exciting movement for the team. And it's something that we've been really wanting because we still see those mental health emergencies occurring at one to 3 in the morning and want to have that better train resource responding to those calls. Looking just at the early data last year for the 2023 Winter just over. 4700 calls that are in response team went to and just to the end of DECEMBER, they've already lips just over 3700 calls this year. So we think will be right on that same track. Once there, the full 24 7 model, I think will level out around 5500 to 6,000 calls a year that this team is going to right now looking at the data. They're averaging just over 400 calls a month of the team's going to in AUGUST was their peak of 510 calls the team went to just for 15 hours a day for just a month of AUGUST. And that's coupled with the other thousands of calls that are system navigators following up with some of those individuals in need. So we're really excited with the progress of response and we'll keep our council. Advised of that. The last one that I wanted to talk out about, we have our most one of our biggest community event of the year coming up on this Monday, OCTOBER 21st. And that's the trunk or treat. Last year we had over 1000 cars come through that veterans building right across

from the fairgrounds. So that's going to be this Monday night. The 21st from Four-thirty to 7.30, we're going to have dozens of of police officers, local nonprofits. Another are some of our federal partners are out there. It's a finite where families can come through just their car. You can dress up if you like loss of our officers will be out there and be able to contact them and pass out literally thousands of pounds of candy that we go every year. We have to make an emergency run back to Costco to get some work and because we run out. So we're going to be prepared this year. So just wanted to make sure Council in our community was advised of that and love to see some people out there Monday night. And that's our quick update from police apartment. Thank you, chief. Any questions? I've requested the city manager for butter fingers. We'll make it happen. >> We'll go to public comment on this item. There is still nobody in the chambers to get public comment. We will close public comment and bring it back or any final comments. >> I just wanted to say that I was involved in the faith and blue. So congratulations on another successful community engagement effort. There are 10's of people out there and they all seem to be having a really good time and having great time in the kids are having a great time in. What is that? But such a call. >> that are armored rescue vehicle. Yes. So they were having a good time. So thank you very much. And thank the department and officers that payment. Yeah. It was a fun day for all. >> All right. Kendis, thank you for the report all that you do and all departments do. With that, we will adjourn at 10. 23.